BoredPerson Posted April 3, 2009 Posted April 3, 2009 At least we know where he stands in terms of how sees women. If people could be be hyperlinked via a tap on their body part to some of the crap they say on this site, what hassles it would save us in the dating game! Just being honest. A beautiful young woman (not too young) holding a newborn baby is one of the most beautiful things in the world. She is young and fresh, and so is the baby simple amazing. A 35 year old woman having her first baby. not so much. I think to myself 'I hope her career was worth it'. Women are supposed to have kids young, that is why they marry older men.
Trialbyfire Posted April 3, 2009 Posted April 3, 2009 OP, there will always be people searching for the fountain of youth, using their partner as a means to compensate for it. Don't worry about it. Just don't fall for someone who's solely superficial or is afraid of their own aging process and you'll be fine.
pollywag Posted April 3, 2009 Posted April 3, 2009 A beautiful young woman (not too young) holding a newborn baby is one of the most beautiful things in the world. She is young and fresh, and so is the baby simple amazing.A 35 year old woman having her first baby. not so much. I think to myself 'I hope her career was worth it'. Women are supposed to have kids young, that is why they marry older men. Oh I see now there is an age limit to how good a woman and her first born look, as well! Then again this statement coming from a guy who also says: Women won't date me because I am ugly and I don't have a high flying career. They're superficial and they can't see that my career might take off soon. There is beauty in many things in this world, for instance Lassy in the garage licking her pup's faces can be the most beautiful sight. Dog is man's best friend. A dog will never judge you on your career or looks, it loves you unconditionally!
allina Posted April 3, 2009 Posted April 3, 2009 It's more the fact that men 35+ think that it's okay for them to dick around and then get serious in old age and then girls like me in my 20s should settle for someone that age while he condems women his age or even women a good 10 years younger. It's the idea that some men here don't thin kthey get older or aren't affected by aging. Plain unrealistic. Luckly, most men don't want to be 40+ year old fathers and act make more wise choices. Yes, but you can't apply what some men say in an online forum and apply it to yourself so personally. Everyone has different ideas about the perfect partner and family life, just because you don't fit their wants doesn't mean they're diminishing your worth. Chasing down each thread that you consider to be anti women and attempting to defend our gender at any length isn't going to change the poster's opinion, it will only make your fearful and jaded.
BoredPerson Posted April 3, 2009 Posted April 3, 2009 Oh I see now there is an age limit to how good a woman and her first born look, as well! Then again this statement coming from a guy who also says: There is beauty in many things in this world, for instance Lassy in the garage licking her pup's faces can be the most beautiful sight. Dog is man's best friend. A dog will never judge you on your career or looks, it loves you unconditionally! In the context of this conversation it is fair to say that any man who is 35 years old and not married has been fairly well screwed over by women in his life or has been constantly rejected. In which case the rule of the game change. Any man who is attractive to women will usually get married before he is 30 years of age. You betcha when I am 35 if I can still get 24 year old that is exactly what I will be doing. The 35 year old hens that turned me down when I was younger will just have to live with the decisions that they made. They'll have to settle for a saggy 45 or 55 year old who is after some fresh 35 year old meat. The only time when age parity is at an equal level is when people are in their early to mid 20's as that is when nature intended us to be chosing partners. As you approach late 20's to the early 30's men start to prefer younger women. Even go as far as to say women in the mid 20's should be aiming for men in the late 20's or early 30's because men in their mid 20's are busy looking at women in the early 20's and dreaming about getting an 18 or 19 year old. I know I am. Nothing sexier than a fresh faced, smooth legged 18 or 19 year old. They have amazing bodies plus they're so innocent and pure.
Jersey Shortie Posted April 3, 2009 Posted April 3, 2009 Not only are you bitter..your a little bit creepy.
pollywag Posted April 3, 2009 Posted April 3, 2009 The 35 year old hens that turned me down when I was younger will just have to live with the decisions that they made. Well there you have it folks, it always boils down to that. Sums it up nicely! I know it will be hard. I KNOW that!! But those women will just have to find a way to carry on...
soserious1 Posted April 4, 2009 Posted April 4, 2009 Well I'll tell you this, I'm in my early 50's, slim, dress size in single digits. I havent been asked out, spoken or,even looked at twice by a man in quite some time.My Ex OTOH has an active sexual/romantic life post divorce. I'm not the type to do things like match.com or eharmony and figure my relationship/romantic life is over. I'm just glad I had and reared successful children.
voldigicam Posted April 4, 2009 Posted April 4, 2009 "In the context of this conversation it is fair to say that any man who is 35 years old and not married has been fairly well screwed over by women in his life or has been constantly rejected." I would have to refer to this as moronic. 1. Someone divorced. 2. Someone building a high-travel career before settling down for kids. Get a life. "Nothing sexier than a fresh faced, smooth legged 18 or 19 year old. They have amazing bodies plus they're so innocent and pure." And hopelessly unskilled and boring. I've . . . well. I won't confess. But from my 50+ perspective, women generally don't know what's what until their mid 20s. I'll get some argument on that, don't bother. "Well I'll tell you this, I'm in my early 50's, slim, dress size in single digits. I havent been asked out, spoken or,even looked at twice by a man in quite some time.My Ex OTOH has an active sexual/romantic life post divorce.' Hmm. Wrong guys. The expertise and poise the experienced bring is quite welcome. I know the 20/30 crowd is supposed to be hot. But the more experienced women really know how to do it right, from answering the door to sipping breakfast coffee.
CommitmentPhobe Posted April 4, 2009 Posted April 4, 2009 In the context of this conversation it is fair to say that any man who is 35 years old and not married has been fairly well screwed over by women in his life or has been constantly rejected. In which case the rule of the game change. Any man who is attractive to women will usually get married before he is 30 years of age. Clooney must be an ugly mofo then. I think you're trolling.
Els Posted April 4, 2009 Posted April 4, 2009 I think that's the point. Apparently alot of men do believe women to be at the mercy of this question. While they give themselves extreme leeway. Men are very giving to themselves in their opinion of their own ages but are extremely critical of women for theres. Men get better with time, women get worse. Isn't that the message? How are we suppose to feel about that? Happy? Like men are on our side? Like women matter to men? Don't you think most of us want a man to love us and have companionship and not for him to tell us that we aren't his preference anymore a few years down the line? You know, women might be critical of height, but there are things that men are critcal about as well when it comes to looks. No one can change those things but those things are there from the begining and aren't looked at as "declining". Basically alot of the guys here are tellign women that they think they decline yet men improve. It leaves women in a position that it's obvious we can't ever win and that somehow men find us less deserving of the exact things me nconsider themselves more deserving of. To tell another one gender that you think they "decline", "get worse", "lessen in value" as time goes on and the other gender that they turn out "better', "improved", "more established"..etc etc..Is really discouraging. There is no woman here that wants a man to think less of her as she ages. But that's exactly what is being said. And really consider to yourself why a woman doesn't want a man to think less of her. The answer should be obvious. I won't be young forever and I don't want to be with a man that I dedicated myself to that is always going to be looking at 20 year olds, even if he "loves" me. We just have no chance. We are basically being told by the gender that we want to care for us most, that they think we decline and are worthless. Especially for 30, when that's pretty freaking young still. And when you have men 40+ judging people a good 10 years younger then themselves. And seriously, what man here wants to be told he gets worse? what man here wants to be thought of as less of a man as he gets older? Don't you think women want the same thigns out of life sometimes. No, no, the way they're looking at it isn't even as logical as that. If we followed your logic, the young men would be 'on par' with the 60-year-old women, and middle-aged men and middle-aged women would be exactly 'on par' because that's the midpoint of the spectrum. Also nobody should ever be complaining about 60-year-old men getting the 20-year-old girls. The way the flamers are thinking is this: 1. When they're young, they should be with hot young women because they're hot, young, enthusiastic men. So they're on par. 2. When they're old, they should be with hot young women because they get better with age and women decline, thus god forbid that they ever consider a partner their own age.
clv0116 Posted April 4, 2009 Posted April 4, 2009 [quote=Elswyth;2118051The way the flamers are thinking is this: 1. When they're young, they should be with hot young women because they're hot, young, enthusiastic men. So they're on par. 2. When they're old, they should be with hot young women because they get better with age and women decline, thus god forbid that they ever consider a partner their own age. This is so far off I barely know where to start.
Cherished Posted April 4, 2009 Posted April 4, 2009 The ironic thing is these men who are posting have no means and admit to not being able to support a wife and a child with their own salary. Say one of them snags one of these 20 something women and they become mother to their baby. Well, she's going to be so worn out from mothering, that when he comes home from work, he's not going to get that sex he's expecting, and the sole point of marrying such a young woman, anyway. On top of that, after her maternity leave, she'll have to go back to work herself, since he isn't admittedly man enough to support both a wife and child on just his salary. Oh she'll have some "feminine" profession like a teacher or a nurse, by the way, so she won't be really doing any work at work, just easy stuff. So she can get off work, pick the baby up from daycare, and have supper on the table, and have her fanciest lingerie on that night to give him sex on demand later that night....the baby won't wake them up. MEN, YOU SAY THIS IS WHAT YOU WANT BUT THEN YOU GUYS ADMIT YOU DON'T EVEN MAKE ENOUGH TO SUPPORT A WIFE AND A FAMILY. YOU NEED TO TAKE STEPS TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE. THE RICH GUYS ARE THE ONES ABLE TO DO WHAT YOU WANT, HAVE THE 20 SOMETHING WIFES WHEN THEY ARE MID-30S PLUS, AND PROVIDE THE WOMAN WITH A NANNY!!! YOU'RE A MAN, BE THE PROVIDER!!!!
clv0116 Posted April 4, 2009 Posted April 4, 2009 The ironic thing is these men who are posting have no means and admit to not being able to support a wife and a child with their own salary. Um, which men would that be?
Cherished Posted April 4, 2009 Posted April 4, 2009 The ones on here who claim they don't want 'career' women, they want the women who don't have careers in their 20s. Hello, the women already have to have careers, unless they're still living at home with mom and dad since high school. Otherwise, how are they paying the rent??? So really if you want this noncareer woman to breed with, you need to get them straight out of high school when they're still working at mcdonalds. Because if you're looking for noncareer women in their 20s, you are getting women who can't even afford the basics, decent clothes, makeup, gym membership...so they won't be attractive in the wal-mart clothes and flabby bodies from not going to the gym. See, it's a big catch-22, don't 'ya think? And it's just wacko to say a woman who gives birth at age 35 isn't as beautiful as a woman in her 20s giving birth, that's whacked. AND THOSE OF YOU WHO THINK THE 20 SOMETHINGS HAVE THE MOST AWESOME BODIES? THERE ARE TONS OF WOMEN AT ALL AGES WHO ARE OVERWEIGHT. DO YOU THINK THEIR ARE NO 20 SOMETHING OVERWEIGHT WOMEN? THERE ARE TONS!!!!
clv0116 Posted April 4, 2009 Posted April 4, 2009 The ones on here who claim they don't want 'career' women ... I don't want a career woman, and I'm well able to support 2-3 families on my income. As for physical beauty, please. Show me the cosmetics marketed to make a 20 year old look 35 and I'll believe you.
Cherished Posted April 4, 2009 Posted April 4, 2009 Um, which men would that be? ok I'll assume your 20 year old wife is at home recovering from the birth while your nanny covers everything while you're bringing home the big bucks. Is that how your life is right now, clv?
clv0116 Posted April 4, 2009 Posted April 4, 2009 ok I'll assume your 20 year old wife is at home recovering from the birth while your nanny covers everything while you're bringing home the big bucks. Is that how your life is right now, clv? I'm not married but I can easily carry a family on my income alone.
Jersey Shortie Posted April 4, 2009 Posted April 4, 2009 ok I'll assume your 20 year old wife is at home recovering from the birth while your nanny covers everything while you're bringing home the big bucks. Is that how your life is right now, clv? It will more be like his 20 year old wife is at home recoviner while the nanny covers anything and he is at work posting on the message board. ..of course men making big bucks post on message boards during the day for the better part of it.
Cherished Posted April 4, 2009 Posted April 4, 2009 Ok then why aren't you snagging the 20 year old to birth your child? Hop to it. You're so rich and in the groove that you're posting on a self-help website on a saturday afternoon, yep, you've got it all, lol.
clv0116 Posted April 4, 2009 Posted April 4, 2009 Ok then why aren't you snagging the 20 year old to birth your child? Hop to it. Actually I'm dating 2 or 3, I was dating 3 but I'm sort of neglecting the youngest one now. I'm hopping to it! Thanks for the support.
Cherished Posted April 4, 2009 Posted April 4, 2009 Ha ha, yeah. That's why you've spent this Saturday afternoon on the computer, considering your high salary...LOL Look, you're not fooling anyone, CLV. But if this board helps you with your self-esteem by creating this fake persona of the successfully financial guy who is dating tons of younger women...well at least you have something.
clv0116 Posted April 4, 2009 Posted April 4, 2009 Ha ha, yeah. That's why you've spent this Saturday afternoon on the computer Actually I spend most of the day most Saturdays doing mundane things like laundry and other chores, then I go out most Saturday evenings. I'm not wasting a lot of time looking for women because I have more than I need now. Actually yesterday I spent 30-40 minutes introducing a (male) friend to a girl I know. Maybe something good will come of it who knows.
Jersey Shortie Posted April 4, 2009 Posted April 4, 2009 If you really are dating 2-3 women, you are wasting two of those ladies times with your indecisiveness. And since you are a big proponent of girls getting it on early with marriage and babies, I hope you stop dragging your heels with two of them soon. Pretty crappy way to treat women actually.
clv0116 Posted April 4, 2009 Posted April 4, 2009 If you really are dating 2-3 women, you are wasting two of those ladies times with your indecisiveness. And since you are a big proponent of girls getting it on early with marriage and babies, I hope you stop dragging your heels with two of them soon. Pretty crappy way to treat women actually. I feel sort of bad, I didn't think it would be this easy to find someone actually and now I do find myself in an uncomfortable position to some degree. At least I never lied about exclusivity, so I'm not actually the devil. They are all very desirable women so it should work out OK.
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