What happens when your 20 year old is now 30?

[Jersey Shortie]

I never said you lied. It's ****ty to keep leading on 3 women because of your own indecision. Women like men that makes choices, not men that pander around wishy washy. Who cares if they are desirable? What does that have to do with you treating them right? You even said you felt "sort of bad". You know what you're doing isn't cool.

 

In my experience, usually when women are okay with a man dating other women, they are either not too into him but having fun with the dates he is taking them on, or seeing other men.

[Jaytb]

I never said you lied. It's ****ty to keep leading on 3 women because of your own indecision. Women like men that makes choices, not men that pander around wishy washy. Who cares if they are desirable? What does that have to do with you treating them right? You even said you felt "sort of bad". You know what you're doing isn't cool.

 

In my experience, usually when women are okay with a man dating other women, they are either not too into him but having fun with the dates he is taking them on, or seeing other men.

 

lol, don't women do the same thing? I've read posts here about multidaters from both genders.

[Isolde]

lol, don't women do the same thing? I've read posts here about multidaters from both genders.

 

clv has been dating several of these women for a long time. It's his choice, but it does seem a bit odd to me.

[Jersey Shortie]

Especially for someone that says he wants to settle down and doesn't like to play women. And at his age, being past his prime, you got to wonder why he is still waiting.

[boxing123]

Women depreciate, men appreciate with age.

 

Men are valued for money/security. They make more money as they age. It is not our fault that women seek security, and are very willing to date older men who provide it for them.

 

Women are valued for their beauty, Beauty fades. All women know this.

 

But their is a balance. An attractive women needs nothing else to be successful in life. An attractive man needs smarts, good work ethic, the ability to make money, etc.

 

In the end it all balances out. Unless an attractive women focuses too long on her career, which would negate her best assets. Youth and beauty.

[Els]

This is so far off I barely know where to start.

 

This did not refer to you actually. Unless you consider yourself a troll?

 

No, had a few specific other people in mind when I posted that.

[boxing123]

Women are applauded for leaving men these days.

 

All a woman has to say is something like "I need to find myself" or "he is boring, he just watches tv" and women applaud each other for leaving their men.

 

So why should men be held to a higher standard? Why continue having sex with an old saggy body?

 

I used to be really romantic, think of growing old with a woman etc. But my idea of women was not based on reality. Reality is 70% of divorces are caused by women. They are rarely in it for the long haul, especially if the man they are with can provide them with good money in a divorce.

[clv0116]

This did not refer to you actually.

....

 

No, had a few specific other people in mind when I posted that.

 

Ah, well I've been pretty clear about my preferences in dating younger women so I thought maybe you were a member of the thundering herd bashing away at me. Carry on!

[samspade]

Men are valued for money/security. They make more money as they age. It is not our fault that women seek security, and are very willing to date older men who provide it for them.

 

While there are SOME women who chase money and only money, I think your view is extremely flawed.

 

A man can make all the money in the world, but that does not mean he will have the first clue how to attract a woman. While his wealth may turn a few heads, if he is still acting like a needy wussbag chump, he will, at best, be taken for a ride. Believe it or not, these guys exist, and they think their Porsches and Armani suits are passports to the world of manhood. The truth is they wind up with escorts, or at best, gold digging skanks.

 

Money is one form of security, but a woman wants a MAN, not a p*ssy with money. Yes, it is a sign (sometimes) of ambition, talent, and drive, three attractive traits. But it's not the only sign. And if a guy is driven to make money just to get laid, well, he is not truly enjoying life anyway.

 

I've seen plenty of guys without a pot to piss in who are very successful with women, nonetheless. The way you behave - and what behavior you are willing to tolerate - will always outweigh your bank account.

[Jersey Shortie]

Clv, you still haven't really brought up why you continue to date 3 women while you yourself at one point I believe said he doesn't believe in causal dating where it strings the other particpants along. I mean you talk a big game but if we go by what you say your actions are, I can't help to think that you aren't quite the kind of guy that is currently standing by his words.

 

 

Women depreciate, men appreciate with age.

 

Then why are you so bitter Boxing? By your own words, men win women loose out no matter what. You would think with this setup you would be a happy camper. You win. Congrats..and all us women can go to sleep every night knowing men htink less of each day we get older .Good job at being a man and letting us know where us lowly women deserve to be put. No need for you to be so bitter since this is the outcome of life. Men win. Women lose. You get better and can tell women how much worse they get and can revel in that and don't have to listen to a bunch of women tell you how much worse they think you get for doing something as human as aging. Again, you win. No need for you to be so bitter. Sounds like your station in life is better then a woman's . That's what you and some of the men really want here isn't it.

[mr.dream merchant]

Women are applauded for leaving men these days.

 

All a woman has to say is something like "I need to find myself" or "he is boring, he just watches tv" and women applaud each other for leaving their men.

 

So why should men be held to a higher standard? Why continue having sex with an old saggy body?

 

I used to be really romantic, think of growing old with a woman etc. But my idea of women was not based on reality. Reality is 70% of divorces are caused by women. They are rarely in it for the long haul, especially if the man they are with can provide them with good money in a divorce.

 

That's why you just have em in your life as an addition to it, never make them your life. Women will **** your **** up if you make them the center of your world. Just treat them as a commodity.

[samspade]

Clv, you still haven't really brought up why you continue to date 3 women while you yourself at one point I believe said he doesn't believe in causal dating where it strings the other particpants along.

 

Hi JS,

 

Dating three women at once is not stringing them along, as long as you aren't lying to them about being exclusive. While I don't believe you have to disclose details, if you're asked you can simply say you are dating others. She might be, as well (likely, in fact). As long as she's cool with that, then no harm, no foul.

[nittygritty]

So why should men be held to a higher standard? Why continue having sex with an old saggy body?

 

I used to be really romantic, think of growing old with a woman etc. But my idea of women was not based on reality. Reality is 70% of divorces are caused by women. They are rarely in it for the long haul, especially if the man they are with can provide them with good money in a divorce.

 

So you used to think of growing old with a woman before you realized that your true desire is to grow old with a younger man?

 

Perhaps you were just always sexually attracted to other men.

[Cherished]

Women don't depreciate with age because women are still beautiful at any age. Lots of beautiful women get dumped, too. There's a lot more to a relationship than looks.

I am 37 and personally know I'm just as attractive as any twenty something and beauty is relative, anyway.

A lot of men do want substance and intelligence. Most educated (college degree and above) men marry women with the same education, that is simply a fact.

Another simple fact is that 1 out of 10 marriages is of men marrying women 10 years or more their junior. That's only 10%, so that is saying that ultimately, men don't really want the younger women, that's not what they are seeking.

We all know that clv has no life and is not dating anyone. Look, he's right on here right away on SUNDAY, too. If he were happily dating these younger women, he would have no need to post his views on here 24/7, and that is literal.

You do realize that this is a scam with Boxing, CLV, etc. to get their jollies out of riling women up, don't you? You're going to get CLV trying to cover his tracks but the men in happy relationships with women are barely posting on here...they come on here every once in a while but not with the extent these guys do.

[mental_traveller]

Although younger people are usually better-looking on average, personality and experience can make a big difference and offset that. Even horndog male sleazebags appreciate a sassy personality, the ability to dress sexily, and good bedroom technique - three things that improve with age for a woman.

[clv0116]

Clv, you still haven't really brought up why you continue to date 3 women while you yourself at one point I believe said he doesn't believe in causal dating where it strings the other particpants along.

 

That's sort of vague. Can you point me to that post so I can have some context?

[Jaytb]

A lot of men do want substance and intelligence. Most educated (college degree and above) men marry women with the same education, that is simply a fact.

 

Exactly, why is it that everyone's getting their panties in a knot over what a few guys are saying?

 

Another simple fact is that 1 out of 10 marriages is of men marrying women 10 years or more their junior.

Just to point out, the average age of marriage is what, 26 or 27 for men. I don't think a lot of 27 year old guys are marrying 17 year olds.

 

We all know that clv has no life and is not dating anyone. Look, he's right on here right away on SUNDAY, too. If he were happily dating these younger women, he would have no need to post his views on here 24/7, and that is literal.

That's a little too presumptuous don't you think? You don't know him, and I don't either, so I wouldn't make assumptions like that.

 

You do realize that this is a scam with Boxing, CLV, etc. to get their jollies out of riling women up, don't you? You're going to get CLV trying to cover his tracks but the men in happy relationships with women are barely posting on here...they come on here every once in a while but not with the extent these guys do.

Could be true, in which case it's all for the lulz. In which case everyone should have listened to me and not bothered posting responses, lol.

[soserious1]

Women are applauded for leaving men these days.

 

All a woman has to say is something like "I need to find myself" or "he is boring, he just watches tv" and women applaud each other for leaving their men.

 

So why should men be held to a higher standard? Why continue having sex with an old saggy body?

 

I used to be really romantic, think of growing old with a woman etc. But my idea of women was not based on reality. Reality is 70% of divorces are caused by women. They are rarely in it for the long haul, especially if the man they are with can provide them with good money in a divorce.

 

I divorced my ex husband only after he said the same words you just said right to my face,that he wasn't interested in having sex with me,that my old,,ugly face and body disgusted and repulsed him. I was the sole bread winner, I didn't divorce him to get his money, on the contrary, divorcing him is costing me money. Nobody is high fiving me or applauding my decision to divorce, as a matter of fact in real life there isn't a single person who knows the true reason for the split as I am ashamed and humilated to have to admit to any living soul what happened. I divorced him because his cruelty, the kind of cruelty you're displaying here was literally eating me alive.

 

Lots of older men AREN'T having sex with their older wives, they're ogling college girls, feasting their eyes on porn, hitting the strip clubs and picking up women from craig's list. I know I am not alone in what happened to me.

 

All I can say to you is this... I hope you never grow old enough to experience

first hand the kind of venom you're dishing out.. trust me, it hurts. If my ex had beaten me badly enough to hospitalise me it would have been better than what he did to me emotionally.

[clv0116]

The moral of the story is to find someone you love and can spend the rest of your life with.

 

So you're saying a guy who spent his whole life sexing up beautiful young women was somehow unfulfilled because there was no one there waiting to swoop in and carry away all his stuff?

[DMoon]

I divorced my ex husband only after he said the same words you just said right to my face,that he wasn't interested in having sex with me,that my old,,ugly face and body disgusted and repulsed him. I was the sole bread winner, I didn't divorce him to get his money, on the contrary, divorcing him is costing me money. Nobody is high fiving me or applauding my decision to divorce, as a matter of fact in real life there isn't a single person who knows the true reason for the split as I am ashamed and humilated to have to admit to any living soul what happened. I divorced him because his cruelty, the kind of cruelty you're displaying here was literally eating me alive.

 

Lots of older men AREN'T having sex with their older wives, they're ogling college girls, feasting their eyes on porn, hitting the strip clubs and picking up women from craig's list. I know I am not alone in what happened to me.

 

All I can say to you is this... I hope you never grow old enough to experience

first hand the kind of venom you're dishing out.. trust me, it hurts. If my ex had beaten me badly enough to hospitalise me it would have been better than what he did to me emotionally.

 

Soserious, it bothers me to *hear* you say this. Women are told often enough that their assets are youth, beauty, and the ability to reproduce, but it is truly troublesome to see from your own example how savage that meme is. And if a woman doesn’t prescribe to a certain timeline or she makes mistakes or indiscretions in her prime then she is useless bitter harridan, but men can make mistakes and renew themselves because they have time on their side and a plethora of options.

 

Still, I only hope that you are also working therapeutically through what he has done to you. It is hurtful to hear about depreciating assets, not being good looking enough, having old tired eggs, etc, but modern women have choices. I do believe that we are better situated than 50 years ago ethnically, racially, and gender wise. You do have power as a modern woman. So think about the descriptor Belles Laide which can be extraordinarily empowering about being invisible to others but you have the freedom of being true to yourself without worrying about what others want from you. As a younger woman than you I have started re-defining what it means to be beautiful, noticed and desired—so please don’t think your time is gone and you have nothing and you are useless.

[Trialbyfire]

Every woman who believes that she's old and tired, is her own worst enemy. Come on ladies. Be honest. Would you really date any of these guys wanting younger women? I know I wouldn't and now, having found someone worthwhile, it's entirely moot.

[allina]

Every woman who believes that she's old and tired, is her own worst enemy. Come on ladies. Be honest. Would you really date any of these guys wanting younger women? I know I wouldn't and now, having found someone worthwhile, it's entirely moot.

 

I agree 100%. Plus some of these guys are so beneath me I wouldn't even bother responding to them or taking them seriously.

[Trialbyfire]

I agree 100%. Plus some of these guys are so beneath me I wouldn't even bother responding to them or taking them seriously.

I didn't quite catch what you meant so can you plse clarify?

[soserious1]

Soserious, it bothers me to *hear* you say this. Women are told often enough that their assets are youth, beauty, and the ability to reproduce, but it is truly troublesome to see from your own example how savage that meme is. And if a woman doesn’t prescribe to a certain timeline or she makes mistakes or indiscretions in her prime then she is useless bitter harridan, but men can make mistakes and renew themselves because they have time on their side and a plethora of options.

 

Still, I only hope that you are also working therapeutically through what he has done to you. It is hurtful to hear about depreciating assets, not being good looking enough, having old tired eggs, etc, but modern women have choices. I do believe that we are better situated than 50 years ago ethnically, racially, and gender wise. You do have power as a modern woman. So think about the descriptor Belles Laide which can be extraordinarily empowering about being invisible to others but you have the freedom of being true to yourself without worrying about what others want from you. As a younger woman than you I have started re-defining what it means to be beautiful, noticed and desired—so please don’t think your time is gone and you have nothing and you are useless.

 

 

To be really truthful with you, the only thing I look forward to now is dying. I've seen and done all the things I set out to do, reared my children well.The thought of a long,slow slide into decline and inabilty to care for self holds no appeal to me. I've already got advance directives, if I'm in an accident,have a serious heart attack or cannot speak for myself and need any sort of life support I am officially DNR. I've spent 1/2 century busting rump,there won't be any skilled care nursing home or meals on wheels, diaper wearing fragile grannie lifestyle happening

here.

[Jersey Shortie]

That's sort of vague. Can you point me to that post so I can have some context?

 

What is so vague? You can either answer it or not.

 

 

 

Every woman who believes that she's old and tired, is her own worst enemy. Come on ladies. Be honest. Would you really date any of these guys wanting younger women? I know I wouldn't and now, having found someone worthwhile, it's entirely moot.

 

I am still young and I wouldn't even date these guys. Not even the young women that date them are going to win here.

 

I really think men that are truly insecure about their own aging process try to fallicate this idea that men don't age or get better with age. I actually think this is some kind of Hollywood fantasy some guys here have bought into.