carhill Posted April 6, 2009 Posted April 6, 2009 Well, to me, this sounds overwhelmingly positive, with two negative personality traits (the leering and the vacillations in emotional investment) observed. So, not bad for an alpha male, eh? I'm somewhat surprised that you appear to now swear off them. After you broke up with him, did you have any contact? I'm curious how quickly he moved on. Most of the alphas I know (friends and business colleagues) usually have a number of potentials available for companionship. It's a matter of selection. They seem to be very pragmatic about such things. Perhaps that is a feature of having those options available. So, reading your posts, are you sure you wouldn't consider dating an alpha again, even if there was a good chance of the leering and emotional waffling?
Ruby Slippers Posted April 6, 2009 Posted April 6, 2009 Oh, there were other alpha/dominant qualities I did not like. But he had so many great qualities that for a long time, I could deal with those. I asked him not to contact me, and we have had none (outside of one short text exchange on Thanksgiving). A friend of mine crossed paths with him a few weeks ago, and said it looks like he's gained a good amount of weight. I know from his past that he gains weight when he's unhappy. My friend said that and the fact that he still has pictures of us up on his myspace suggest he is "pining for me", but who knows? He was an interesting character. Totally self-assured, no shame about anything, laid-back, well-built, talented at everything he touches, dominant in the relationship, protector, provider. But he had this strong emotional streak that seemed to overtake him at times. I mean, he wrote five heartfelt and quite sappy love songs about me in our two years together. He said he's always taken breakups very hard and even when he was in high school, an aspiring guitarist into metal and hair bands, the sappy songs were always his favorites. I don't think he has ever had any problem getting women, but it seems he is gradually starting to slow down with that and think about something more serious. I bet he won't really give in to that till around 40, though. Leering and emotional waffling -- I don't think I would want to deal with those anymore. As other women have said, subtle glances are no big deal, but lascivious stares are pretty gross. Emotional waffling? No. If you are clear on what you want, you'll be in or out, as I see it. If a man is doing these things, a woman's intuition is telling her to beware for a reason.
PinkKittyKat Posted April 6, 2009 Posted April 6, 2009 Sounds a lot like male bashing up in here. Be careful pink kitty; you'll loose all the male approval you earned in this thread! We all know men only ogle strange ladies when their woman acts like a sexless shrew. Oh, get over yourself. I have opinions. I'm sorry that some of them offend you. I'm not too worried about "loosing" any male support I may/may not have gained, nor yours. Nowhere did I say "all men do that", I just have no respect for the men who DO. Same as how I have no respect for rotten chicks who screw their men over.
mr.dream merchant Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 Nothing wrong with looking at a nice pair of tits, ass, and a pretty face when the lady isn't around.
carhill Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 I was a good boy today and averted my eyes in the grocery store
Jersey Shortie Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 Nothing wrong with looking at a nice pair of tits, ass, and a pretty face when the lady isn't around. Or letting anyone of those three sit on your lap by your standards.
MeaganRaye Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 That's exactly why I fear getting married or into a committed relationship. When I go out I see married men looking and smiling at me a lot, and it just made me not ever want to be in the wife's shoes. Men can be such pigs
mr.dream merchant Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 That's exactly why I fear getting married or into a committed relationship. When I go out I see married men looking and smiling at me a lot, and it just made me not ever want to be in the wife's shoes. Men can be such pigs Sounds like a creeper to me. I do the quick glance, no rubber necking, only if its in my field of view. That's it, about 2 seconds to take it all in and be about my business. Smiling, and staring and striking up conversation is a douchebag thing to do if you've got a lady at home. But if you just want a quick glance, there is nothing wrong with that.
MeaganRaye Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 Sounds like a creeper to me. I do the quick glance, no rubber necking, only if its in my field of view. That's it, about 2 seconds to take it all in and be about my business. Smiling, and staring and striking up conversation is a douchebag thing to do if you've got a lady at home. But if you just want a quick glance, there is nothing wrong with that. I didn't know you all were that quick. I've had married men do more than just a quick glance. I remember one day a married man came up to me, while his wife was quickly loading the cart with groceries to tell me, "you're very pretty don't tell my wife I told ya"..and then he quickly followed behind his wife before she even knew he was talking to me. Some stop and make a smile so wide you can see every teeth in their mouth. One was a very elderly man and his wife just kept on walking looking a bit annoyed, she seemed used to him looking at young women. I was uncomfortable
clv0116 Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 Normal humans enjoy pretty things. It's one thing to appreciate the beauty of a woman the way you appreciate the beauty of a gorgeous sports car or a stunning building, and quite another to sit there and imagine what it would be like to bed her. The woman, not the car or building. Bedding a car would be really weird.
Jersey Shortie Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 I have had the same experiences Meagan and I usually feel that the wife or girlfriend unfortunetly ended up with a man that just isn't the kind of many any woman wants to end up with. Unfortunetly, there are apparently alot of guys that pull that stuff. I have caught men with their wives or even their families checking me out. How much more disrespectful could you be to the woman you claim you love and your own children? Makes you sad to realize that men care more about the eye candy then they do respecting their own families or the women in their life. I don't know why so many men can't appreciate and value what they have but act like creeps to their own wives and girlfriends for some eye candy.
sally4sara Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 Oh, get over yourself. I have opinions. I'm sorry that some of them offend you. I'm not too worried about "loosing" any male support I may/may not have gained, nor yours. Nowhere did I say "all men do that", I just have no respect for the men who DO. Same as how I have no respect for rotten chicks who screw their men over. Why is this child all upset and incapable of joking? Princess Pink Kitty, Earlier in this thread, people were accusing others of trying to express an opinion for no reason other than to gain the approval of the opposite gender. Woggle was the first one to do so of course. I jokingly cautioned you because you disapproved of a common male habit - ogling. The emoticons exist for a reason right? That's why I used one! And also earlier, a fella said men only even notice other women to ogle them IF their GF/wife nags them and denies them sex. I made the comment I made NOT TO INSULT YOU, but to play off his statement. To say it happens too often for his comment to hold merit. Perhaps I should've PMed you so the joke wouldn't go sailing yards above your head causing you to freak out - my mistake. I didn't initially think your first essay long contribution to this thread was to gain male approval. Now that you've flown off the handle when a woman jokes with you, I have changed my mind. I'm glad my vacation time is up. This site is so depressing anymore. I came here to construct character personalities for creative writing and have almost developed a complex! Yet it holds some addictive masochistic quality and I peek anyway! I got one hateful guy saying I actively sought out my younger fiance rather than just met someone wonderful who happened to be younger so I can "whip him into submission" and that I intend to screw him over....oh sometime next week most likely. I'll make sure to pencil that into my schedule! Then we got a lass (in the same city as wogs even!) who makes me sad because she's letting the gender contention eat her alive and change her into exactly what she rails against. Men (at least they say they are) who post all day on a mission to try to keep the old boy's club alive on-line because they can't live their fantasy IRL. They spout how women in other countries are happier and better. A few women (at least they claim they are) who actually BELIEVE the tripe and drivle the old boys say about the good old days being so much better. They promise they'll eat as much $h1t as the non-american wimmins! I just spent they day with a houseful of Myanmar/Burma refugees. The females we're quite excited when I told them they hold legal claim to their own paychecks here in the states; that they don't solely belong to their husbands and no, they cannot go to jail for drawing money out of a joint bank account that has their name on it. THAT is real life folks and that is the stuff that matters. Not the crap you read on here.
Ruby Slippers Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 Yeah, a man who's with a woman and is leering at you is supergross. I immediately feel sorry for the woman and totally repelled by the man.
mr.dream merchant Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 I was at Disney World with my shorty for the weekend. I caught fathers wheeling around their children in a stroller stare at my GF mid-sentence while talking to their wife. All I could do was laugh. ****, even grandfathers with their granddaughters pulling at their pant leg were dumbfounded for a couple of seconds when they saw my GF. It doesn't upset me, I just think about how much they suck at checking out a pretty female. Obviously you don't want to sit there with your tongue all out all googly eyed and ****. No breaking your neck either. That **** just looks foolish, even to a guy. 1. Gotta be in the field of view 2. 2 second maximum, any more than that and you're being a creep. 3. Please, not infront of the wifey.
neveragain2493 Posted April 8, 2009 Posted April 8, 2009 I agree that some women take things the wrong way. Sometimes I, being a woman, take things the wrong way. There are certain ways to look at things. Luckily, I try to see from everyone's perspective. Maybe if a man said what he had to say in different context, we wouldn't be so upset. Guys, not your fault. We just take it the wrong way.
Jersey Shortie Posted April 8, 2009 Posted April 8, 2009 I was at Disney World with my shorty for the weekend. I caught fathers wheeling around their children in a stroller stare at my GF mid-sentence while talking to their wife. Isn't that special? Aren't men wonderful and loving husbands and fathers. What a joke. Men really stink. THis is why I don't know why men bother acting like they care about having one special lady in their life.... 3. Please, not infront of the wifey Why not? So he can hide the kind of man he really is? He should show her up front so that she can dump him
mr.dream merchant Posted April 8, 2009 Posted April 8, 2009 Isn't that special? Aren't men wonderful and loving husbands and fathers. What a joke. Men really stink. THis is why I don't know why men bother acting like they care about having one special lady in their life.... Why not? So he can hide the kind of man he really is? He should show her up front so that she can dump him Yeah dump him maybe if he's the type to be a creep and oggle other women like no tomorrow. But if he appropriately checks out other women when she isn't around, that is, just admiring their beauty for a couple of seconds before going about his business, then I don't think that's grounds for dumping anybody. If you'd dump somebody over that then...sheesh you might as well be single. I check women out all the time when I'm not around my GF. This ranges from a quick glance at her pretty face to her pedicure. There's nothing wrong with that. Its human nature to admire members of the opposite sex at an appropriate level. The 3 requirements listed are what I'd say is appropriate. Really, staring is just creepy. Just take it all in within a couple of seconds and get on with your life lol. Alot of guys just stop functioning when they see an attractive female. To me they're just attractive, that's about it. When I get good pussy from my GF I'm not at all interested in what's between her legs or her intelligence, she's just nice to look at for about 2 seconds.
Jersey Shortie Posted April 8, 2009 Posted April 8, 2009 Men stink. They are never happy with what they have and obviously always on the prowl for whatever is new. Why bother. You talk about your own girlfriend really disrespectfully.
mr.dream merchant Posted April 8, 2009 Posted April 8, 2009 If you say so. I treat her pretty well and she's all smiles. You don't know me personally, nor my GF so I'll just give you a pass. With a negative outlook on the male counterpart, why not try dipping into the female gender Jersey Shortie? Its apparent you're hard to please if your suitor has two testicles and a penis because you're already putting him at a disadvantage just because of his gender. That's not fair at all. =( I gotta say my last post sounded by with that pussy part. What I meant by it is, if I'm taken, I'm happy, so an attractive female is just nice to look at for 2 seconds, that's about it. No interest in her genitalia, or her intelligence.
Cherry Blossom 35 Posted April 8, 2009 Posted April 8, 2009 I'm glad my vacation time is up. This site is so depressing anymore. I came here to construct character personalities for creative writing and have almost developed a complex! Yet it holds some addictive masochistic quality and I peek anyway! I got one hateful guy saying I actively sought out my younger fiance rather than just met someone wonderful who happened to be younger so I can "whip him into submission" and that I intend to screw him over....oh sometime next week most likely. I'll make sure to pencil that into my schedule! Then we got a lass (in the same city as wogs even!) who makes me sad because she's letting the gender contention eat her alive and change her into exactly what she rails against. Men (at least they say they are) who post all day on a mission to try to keep the old boy's club alive on-line because they can't live their fantasy IRL. They spout how women in other countries are happier and better. A few women (at least they claim they are) who actually BELIEVE the tripe and drivle the old boys say about the good old days being so much better. They promise they'll eat as much $h1t as the non-american wimmins! I just spent they day with a houseful of Myanmar/Burma refugees. The females we're quite excited when I told them they hold legal claim to their own paychecks here in the states; that they don't solely belong to their husbands and no, they cannot go to jail for drawing money out of a joint bank account that has their name on it. THAT is real life folks and that is the stuff that matters. Not the crap you read on here. Oh, I know what you mean, Sally. My sentiments exactly. I love when you post, I hope you don't go away forever
The Collector Posted April 8, 2009 Posted April 8, 2009 My girlfriend and I both enjoy checking out the eye-candy.
PinkKittyKat Posted April 8, 2009 Posted April 8, 2009 Why is this child all upset and incapable of joking? Princess Pink Kitty, Earlier in this thread, people were accusing others of trying to express an opinion for no reason other than to gain the approval of the opposite gender. Woggle was the first one to do so of course. I jokingly cautioned you because you disapproved of a common male habit - ogling. The emoticons exist for a reason right? That's why I used one! And also earlier, a fella said men only even notice other women to ogle them IF their GF/wife nags them and denies them sex. I made the comment I made NOT TO INSULT YOU, but to play off his statement. To say it happens too often for his comment to hold merit. Perhaps I should've PMed you so the joke wouldn't go sailing yards above your head causing you to freak out - my mistake. Sorry, I'm just a bit irritated that my actual opinions were taken as being tailored to make the guys on here happy. Didn't mean to snap, but it gets irritating.
Jersey Shortie Posted April 9, 2009 Posted April 9, 2009 Then we got a lass (in the same city as wogs even!) who makes me sad because she's letting the gender contention eat her alive and change her into exactly what she rails against. Well, it does get to you after awhile. That was a good post. With a negative outlook on the male counterpart, why not try dipping into the female gender Jersey Shortie? Its apparent you're hard to please if your suitor has two testicles and a penis because you're already putting him at a disadvantage just because of his gender. I guess I have learned that you need to be defensive with men otherwise they will sort of just trample right over you. And really, it more times then not seems like the one with the vagina is at the disadvantage. At least women are always seeking out the next new piece of ass all the time.
mr.dream merchant Posted April 9, 2009 Posted April 9, 2009 I used to be like that to. But I learned that you shouldn't beat everyone else with someone's stick. That'll just leave you unhappy. I got played 3 times in a row by 3 different girls. My outlook on females after that wasn't so great. Every pretty smile coupled with the words "I like you" I took for a two timing whore. I admit, I used some, and I played some. But it took me 3 years and an older and much wiser individual (yes, a woman) to shine some knowledge onto my angry brain. Beating everyone with someone else's stick will only leave you unhappy in the end. Just think about that Jersey Shortie. Not every male out there is in it to hurt you. It took me awhile, but I learned the same of females. There's *******s everywhere, and yes, even some females. Just have to let your pain go sometimes.
Jersey Shortie Posted April 10, 2009 Posted April 10, 2009 I don't think every male is out there to hurt me. I think men are ultimately more concerned with themselves over their women and their needs over their woman's. It's my experience that that's the case and I see it time and time again amongst many couples. It is usually the woman that compromises, brushes things off, makes compromises. ANd so often men defend their actiosn because they are "men". And that trumps everything. It's not really that I think men are out to hurt me, it's that I don't think men care about women over caring about themselves and their needs first.
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