Woggle Posted March 29, 2009 Posted March 29, 2009 Of course this is a generalization and there are exceptions but I would give the perspective on why older women tend to be a better choice. Having married an older woman I see the advantages. Younger women tend to be a big question mark when you are dealing with them and they seem to thrive on drama. One day they are in love with you and the next day they are messing around with your best friend then they dump you to go find themselves. They get bored in a healthy relationship and tend to create problems just for the hell of it. They can turn on you in a 2nd so you don't what you are dealing with. As women approach 30 they tend to be more defined in who they are. What you see is what you get with them. They tend to either be hardened misandrists with a huge chip on their shoulder against men or they learned the lessons and now are ready for a happy and healthy relationship. Of course the former should be avoided like the plague but at least you know what they are and can steer clear. The latter are a very good catch because they can actually appreciate a man that treats them well and can return the favor.
MN randomguy Posted March 29, 2009 Posted March 29, 2009 One of my best friends who is a genuinely great guy married his HS sweetheart. They for the most part have a good marriage but during some drama is their first pregnancy he said he'd almost wished she'd dated a real D-bang before him so that she'd appreciate him more. Might be something to that.
Sam Spade Posted March 29, 2009 Posted March 29, 2009 One way to short circuit this is to marry a sweet girl from genuinely conservative and religious family. One of my friends married such girl in her early 20s and they're having an awesome time together. Then there is the scenario of the girl who dates a couple of good guys in her 20s, only to dump them for no reason, and then to come in for a rude awakening in her 30s that she's far behind in the game, courtesy her own emotional immaturity.
confused_2008 Posted March 29, 2009 Posted March 29, 2009 Or, you can be really lucky and score a young one that hasn't been burned yet but still has a good head on her shoulders. But I agree, I think most of these young women need to get burned by a jerk or two before they can appreciate the so called "good guys." I mean, read this post from another thread: Of course I feel I could walk away from abuse/being cheated on etc, but I think those kinds of feelings in a relationship can be wonderful. I think 'normal' relationships sound quite boring. My relationship is very intense and fiery - there have been in the past abusive elements to it, I had hit my boyfriend 2-3 times, went to therapy and stopped it. So i've sorted a lot of the destructive elements that came about because of that intensity and my own issues, but still in my mind love and craziness kind of go together - but it's controlling the crazy. All I can say is wow.
Author Woggle Posted March 29, 2009 Author Posted March 29, 2009 One way to short circuit this is to marry a sweet girl from genuinely conservative and religious family. One of my friends married such girl in her early 20s and they're having an awesome time together. Then there is the scenario of the girl who dates a couple of good guys in her 20s, only to dump them for no reason, and then to come in for a rude awakening in her 30s that she's far behind in the game, courtesy her own emotional immaturity. Those women are usually the worst. They get tired of being the good girl all their life and want to be bad and rebel against that. I am of the belief that people need to deal with some crap in order to appreciate the good things. Some women end up blaming all men for their horrible choices and some wisen up. The latter are who men should go for but they are hard to find.
samspade Posted March 29, 2009 Posted March 29, 2009 Speak for yourself. I've dated older and younger women and haven't had any problems with either. A woman of any age will get away with what you let her. Don't tolerate immature behavior, and always be willing to walk away. It won't matter how old she is, if you stick to your principles, you'll be happy.
boxing123 Posted March 29, 2009 Posted March 29, 2009 Just as many older have emotional problems. Actually theirs can be worse as they are very concerned about aging, being single, alone etc. But I agree, it is not easy to find a stable, attractive, young one that is the same person day to day.
loser101 Posted March 29, 2009 Posted March 29, 2009 Speak for yourself. I've dated older and younger women and haven't had any problems with either. A woman of any age will get away with what you let her. Don't tolerate immature behavior, and always be willing to walk away. It won't matter how old she is, if you stick to your principles, you'll be happy. ironic isn't it that women would say exactly the same about men word for word
loser101 Posted March 29, 2009 Posted March 29, 2009 One way to short circuit this is to marry a sweet girl from genuinely conservative and religious family. One of my friends married such girl in her early 20s and they're having an awesome time together. bet he doesn't get a blow job though
OpenBook Posted March 29, 2009 Posted March 29, 2009 As women approach 30 they tend to be more defined in who they are. What you see is what you get with them. They tend to either be hardened misandrists with a huge chip on their shoulder against men or they learned the lessons and now are ready for a happy and healthy relationship. Of course the former should be avoided like the plague but at least you know what they are and can steer clear. The latter are a very good catch because they can actually appreciate a man that treats them well and can return the favor. I'm glad you posted this thread Woggle. It's such an important point that is often overlooked, THAT ATTITUDE OF GRATITUDE toward each other - it's the element that makes a relationship great. And the point the other posters were also making, about having bad prior experiences to help people appreciate a good relationship more. I'd hate to wish a bad experience on anyone, but sometimes that's what it takes for us stubborn humans to learn our lessons. It's so refreshing and heartening to see someone in a happy relationship, especially knowing what came before. My hat's off to you Wogs!! :bunny:
Jersey Shortie Posted March 29, 2009 Posted March 29, 2009 yay, another thread about how much women suck and how hey dont deserve anything.
allina Posted March 29, 2009 Posted March 29, 2009 I am of the belief that people need to deal with some crap in order to appreciate the good things. I don't know about this one. I appreciate my SO and everything in my life a lot. I don't feel like my SO is an amazing guy because he hasn't f'd me over or treated me like crap like some ex did. My love for him stands on its own, it doesn't need to be compared to crap to look great. I haven't really been through major crap with men. Of course I've been hurt and disappointed but that happens. Looking back today I know that I have chosen quality men in my past, I don't need some jerk to show me that, I'm already aware of it.
samspade Posted March 29, 2009 Posted March 29, 2009 ironic isn't it that women would say exactly the same about men word for word I don't think I'd call it "ironic." It's not even coincidental. It's just a smart way to live your life. yay, another thread about how much women suck and how hey dont deserve anything. Your words, not mine.
loveslife Posted March 29, 2009 Posted March 29, 2009 I think it's a matter of learning what really matters in a relationship. In our 20s it's hard to really project what it'll be like to be with any particular person long term. So, as a woman, I did make some bad choices in my 20s and early 30s. And I did choose men who would provide a lot of drama and "excitement." But in hindsight they were also emotionally unavailable, immature and unreliable. But then so was I or I wouldn't have gotten involved with them. Then I grew to really crave stability and a loving, peaceful environment within a relationship. Funny thing is, you get used to a certain type and I think you pick that type subconsciously. At least I did for a while. I'm now with a guy who is SO good to me and I do appreciate it very much. Funny thing is I knew him in my 20s and discounted him then because he was "boring." But now all those things which I thought were boring are now floating my boat bigtime. So I think I'm a model proving the theory of the OP true. I really do appreciate a good guy now.
monkey00 Posted March 29, 2009 Posted March 29, 2009 I absolutely cannot argue with your post. However though there will always be exceptions because people mature at varying paces because of their upbringing/life experiences. But back to younger women, they're still on the path to self discovery and pursing careers. This drive and ambition (and immaturity depending how you look at it) of theirs is prone to bringing instability in all forms. With that I don't think they really know what they want. All the crazy hormones! I guess a well seasoned woman could probably relate to a typical nice guy, he has to be burned to know not to put a woman on a pedestal. I think it's worth it, we all need to find inner balance within ourselves. We can learn to walk only after having fallen many times. And for the record, I love older women.
clv0116 Posted March 29, 2009 Posted March 29, 2009 My personal experience with women has been something like 16, 18-20, 22-27, 29-31, 40-56 ... as far as I can recall. So I've not been with women in their 30s much in the biblical sense. Women that age seem nice to talk to, but the 30 and 31 year olds I was with were really clingy. Easy to get with and clingy as sandwich wrap. The older ones are better - they often don't even seem to expect anything long term. But then at the time I was 15+ years younger, so maybe that's why.
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