CandyGirlXO Posted March 26, 2009 Posted March 26, 2009 Well since you posted a vulnerability I will too. I wish my pecker was bigger. It's very average. Exactly average, and it's always bothered me that I didn't get an above average one. The kind that makes girls run to their friends and tell them how huge you are. I'm very outgoing and a fun guy to be with but I've always felt my pecker doesn't measure up to my personality. Sure it does the job and the girls always say it fine, but I want them to be like "I'm not sure I can handle that" when they see it. That's just an example of one of my own physical hang-ups. As a petite girl, I prefer smaller penises. I really do. It actually fits, and doesn't tear me up... OUCH!
CandyGirlXO Posted March 26, 2009 Posted March 26, 2009 If you are over the age of 12, you got cellulite. Some more then others but I hate to break it to you and your airbrushed fantasies, real women have it. Even Paris Hilton. Yes I am glad someone said it. That is so true. EVERYONE has it, even the skinnest/ most in shape women I know have it.
redfathom Posted March 26, 2009 Posted March 26, 2009 According to MSN we can all reduce our cellulite by working out five days a week with moderate cardio and weights. Also, it say's that woman spend nearly $100 million dollars on creams and lotions... http://health.msn.com/fitness/womens-fitness/articlepage.aspx?cp-documentid=100234587&page=1 Guy's, caution: We ladies might be so tired from working at our jobs and at the gym to look great for you that we might not want to have sex...
RecordProducer Posted March 26, 2009 Posted March 26, 2009 Original poster, I don't get this question. A woman usually doesn't take her clothes off while standing in the worst light and while her new partner is watching her. It usually happens in bed or at least in a sitting position, with dim lights and lots of kissing, often with some sheets on. By the time he gets to see her body in full, they've already made love. Then she hops from the bed to go to the bathroom and this is basically the first time he gets to see her walking, but still not standing still. The short glance at all parts of her body must be pretty exciting after he's been intimate with her. He never thought she was perfect nor did he ever ask for perfection. He saw enough through clothes. If the woman looked perfect fully clothed, she likely doesn't look that bad naked. Yes, now the cellulite, stretch marks, or saggy boobs/butt are revealed, but she is still equally sexy in his eyes. Moreover, she is sexier now that he made love to her. And if she wasn't perfect while fully dressed, then he knew he wasn't getting a top model in the first place. I honestly don't believe that men see a woman naked and go like "Oooooh, maaaaan, look at that cottage cheese and saggy tits. Yuck!" If a man saw you before he started having sex with you, then he can't possibly be disappointed, even if he notices things he doesn't normally like on a woman's body. I've never ever heard a man complaining about any physical flaws about their exes - only mental/emotional! Sometimes they complain that their exes gained a lot of weight though. I would be much more concerned about the asses who married their wives when they were 20 and 30 years later, they want another 20-year old, just because their wives look 50 now. They forget they are 50, too. Men don't lose interest on the first sex date because of physical imperfections. They do lose interest due to various other things, though, and I would be much more concerned and occupied with thinking about those things. Do your best to look your best, take care of yourself for your own confidence, but don't waste your time obsessing with things that nobody cares about. Yes, looks matter big time, but men judge the looks in the first 5 minutes of meeting you - not after he had sex with you. Jeez, people, This whole idea of "flaws" is total bull****!! There are "differences", but NOT "flaws". If you believe that a person can have PHysical "flaws" or "mistakes", then you HAVE to believe that somewhere out there, there is a woman or man, who is PHYsically perfect. Get a clue, there is no such thing as perfection. Well, then you DO believe in flaws! flaws schmaws! one persons trash is anothers treasure!One person's trash used to be their treasure once! Sorry, we notice bodies, and you cannot shame us for it. Well, in Afghanistan, you won't see any women's bodies. Hell, you won't even see their faces. And yes, upfront, I would reject a man with a 1" pecker. At least this would be something done previous to investment. Once you're down the road to investment, it gets more hurtful to be rejected. You can thank your lucky stars that you found out someone felt this way, before going any further.But, how would you feel if a man refused to have anything to do with you because after a few dates he saw your naked body and got turned off by it? If a minute before that he told you that you were a fantastic women, wouldn't you think he's being judgmental? You'd say he was superficial and didn't take it as part of the package, but you said you would reject him due to a small penis regardless of his great personality. The point of emotional investment is more or less the same - the moment you see him naked, he sees YOU naked. So you basically agree that physical traits can be a break deal after we've discovered Miss/Mr. Seems-Right-After-A-Few-Dates. I believe that physical attraction, starting with the first sight and all the way to sexual compatibility is indeed a deal maker or breaker. I even understand people who get turned off by their spouses after they've gained 80 lbs and/or neglected their looks. I do not view my fiancé's belly as a flaw. I like it. But why are you talking about something you like as a flaw? Then you say if he had hard abs, you'd love him "despite" his abs. The questions is not about what you consider a flaw, but are you being judgmental about the things you consider as flaws. Some men like a little bit of fat, but if they don't, how do they react to a woman who has extra 30 lbs. That's the question. You're telling us that you have a BF whom you find perfect and his perceived-by-society flaws are not flaws for you. That's great, but what do we do when you meet a guy who has flaws which YOU consider flaws? And how big is your BF's belly? What if he gained 100 lbs and his hair fell off? Would you still find him sexually attractive and tell him "No, I wouldn't change anything about you?" I want them to be like "I'm not sure I can handle that" when they see it. So, you'd rather hurt the woman but have your ego boosted?
boldjack Posted March 26, 2009 Posted March 26, 2009 All right, RP, you got me:laugh: but you know what I meant.
The Collector Posted March 26, 2009 Posted March 26, 2009 I've never ever heard a man complaining about any physical flaws about their exes - only mental/emotional! Sometimes they complain that their exes gained a lot of weight though. Exactly RP. None of the men I know sit around complaining that this girl/SO/ex had cellulite, or saggy boobs. Compared to how women talk about the size of our ding-dongs, and our performance in bed, we are generally quite 'gentlemanly' about doing the same. Women are less forgiving of their own perceived flaws than most of the men that have already decide they find them attractive, and will project those insecurities often endlessly and annoyingly 'You think my ass is fat? You do, don't you, admit it' etc. As you say, it the psychological/behavioural things that we will complain about, and those are the deal-breakers that ironically women will generally not put in as much effort to change as the physical stuff.
Jersey Shortie Posted March 26, 2009 Posted March 26, 2009 Collector, my girlfriends don't sit around bashing our and talking about his ding-dong or performance in bed. I am sure some women do, but there are women that don't. We usually do talk about the romantic dinner he took us out to or the cool club he took us or playing chess at a hot spot in the city. We talk about kissing but I never heard a woman bash her man for it. And it's nice to hear that men don't sit around complaining about our bodies. But I am sure men do sit around talking about all the hot chicks they would like to bang if they didn't have a girlfriend. Women are less forgiving of their own perceived flaws than most of the men that have already decide they find them attractive, and will project those insecurities often endlessly and annoyingly 'You think my ass is fat? You do, don't you, admit it' etc. Well we know that men are always looking at the competition. Don't you think there are things men need repetitive validation on? There is, I can tell you that. And I was happy to give it because it made me feel good to make him feel good. Little things like complimenting a job you did or something you did is reaffirmation for him. The "do you think my ass is fat" question is reaffirmation as well. Of course there is a point it can be too much but it would be nice if men were a little more understanding. As you say, it the psychological/behavioural things that we will complain about, and those are the deal-breakers that ironically women will generally not put in as much effort to change as the physical stuff. That is true for guys as well. ll be sure to look yet again, but I'm pretty sure only one of the girls I date ATM has much fat and I've never noticed any cellulite. Cellulite is just connective tissue that forms inside fat if I understand correctly. Here is the description for cellulite for you: cellulite describes a condition that occurs in men and women (although much more common in women) where the skin of the lower limbs, abdomen, and pelvic region becomes dimpled after puberty. It is normal for pubescent females to display some degree of cellulite. There appears to be a hormonal component to its presentation. It is rarely seen in males You can read more on it if you please but women's body's aren't like men's and every woman, some more then others, has it if they have reached puberty. It's normal. It's natural. And it's part of what makes us a women. I certainly have been with plenty of women with plenty of cellulite before, but they were all over 30, not just over 12. Maybe it's the water in Jersey? What's with the cheap unfounded shot? You think this would bother me? Yeap, I got cellulite and I am not over 30 and I work out 4-5 times a week and do cardio 3-4 times a week from 40-60 each session. My legs are great. My ass is great. I do have cellulite. And you don't know much about Jersey either to take that weak little one liner. Let me guess, basing your opinion of New Jersey off of Newark or the turnpike right? Or mabe you don't even know that much. But then in a previous thread we determined that the women I date are underweight twigs who lack 'healthy' amounts of flesh on their tiny little bones. I never said anything about the health or weight of the women you date. All I eve rsaid was it wasn't fair that you date 3 of them at the same time and don't fully give yourself to anyone of them. please don't generalize other females around the world based on U.S women. it's ok to have cellulite if you are over 12??? do parents feed their kids with all nasty shixx these days? maybe if you are over 50, it's ok to have cellulite You need to read up on cellulite. Please do so. Cellulite naturally occurs when a female hits puberty.
boxing123 Posted March 26, 2009 Posted March 26, 2009 I would say women are more critical of their own bodies than men are of their bodies. And yes, men are always checking out other women's bodies. And yes, all men discuss women they see on the street with each other. But we are not looking for a "better" body, just a different body. If you are short and petite, then we fantasize about the tall girl. If you have small boobs, we think of big boobs. Etc
mr.dream merchant Posted March 26, 2009 Posted March 26, 2009 I would say women are more critical of their own bodies than men are of their bodies. And yes, men are always checking out other women's bodies. And yes, all men discuss women they see on the street with each other. But we are not looking for a "better" body, just a different body. If you are short and petite, then we fantasize about the tall girl. If you have small boobs, we think of big boobs. Etc Yeah that is true. I wouldn't stay fantasize. My GF is petite but with beautiful curves for her size. Still I think about a taller more voluptuous woman from time to time. And women with more leg really catch my eye. And the ones with the big curly hair like a Dominicana or Colombiana do to because my GF wears her hair straight. Pretty much everything that my GF isn't will catch my eye from time to time because I'm just so used to her and her body. I've seen, tasted, and felt every inch of it so its not as intriguing as it used to be. She's still sexy though and these thoughts don't turn into an obsession, just a quick 1 second thought.
Pipetalk Posted March 26, 2009 Posted March 26, 2009 What a tricky question! in that moment of heat, i don't suppose you think much! lol i guess it very much depends on how this girl appeals at first, if her character takes over physical appearance, i do not think it matters bit. If not, it's just tough, naked or not! .... pipetalk http://onlinedating.simplifying.it
loveslife Posted March 26, 2009 Posted March 26, 2009 I've been thinking about this thread because I'm getting closer to physical intimacy with the guy I'm seeing and do feel somewhat insecure. But reading through these posts has prompted me to get a grip... First, I'm surprised nobody has responded "what do we think? Think? There is no blood going to our *brain* at that point!" Also, I suddenly realized that if you've been dating someone their body cannot be a total surprise. No guy is going to mistake me for a buxom blonde with a 12" waist just because I have clothing on. I think we get kind of stressed because undressing with someone for the first time can make us women feel very much exposed and vulnerable. And it gives us a feeling that something previously hidden will be revealed. We will be exposed as a failure somehow. But I like what someone here said about having sex makes the guy like the woman's body more. And I also think the anticipation of being naked with someone might feel scarier than the reality. Because chances are as a woman we're pretty involved in the moment if we get to that point, too. At least I hope so. By the way, I heard somewhere that when a woman says, "I feel fat," what she's really saying is, "I feel like I'm not good enough." I think that makes sense.
pollywag Posted March 26, 2009 Posted March 26, 2009 Some of you men need to read up and get educated on cellulite and some of you women need to let the men answer honestly what they think when they first see a woman naked. I thought the point of this thread was to see what goes through a guy's mind, what is the point of having a thread like this if women are going to jump all over every response they don't like? Just don't read this thread if you can't handle the responses. Gees, way to ruin a thread! Anyway on the topic of cellulite, it is not related to being overweight it happens to a lot of slim women and it does start as young as puberty. If you think it only happens to overweight women just have a look at the late night show and look at the female guests wearing a short skirts. I think the last guest I can remember that crossed her legs for the camera wearing a mini dress who did not have an ounce of cellulite on her thighs was Jennifer Aniston. Every other model, starlet, actress I can think of has some. Some had a ton of cellulite and should not have been wearing a short skirt on tv. Even Paris Hilton did. Feast on this for a while: http://yourbeautyspot.ninemsn.com.au/slideshow_ajax.aspx?sectionid=5339§ionname=slideshow&subsectionid=74905&subsectionname=starswithcelllulite
Lizzie60 Posted March 26, 2009 Posted March 26, 2009 I watched the slide.. and my gawd... some of them we can hardly see the cellulite.. it's a little overboard saying that they have cellulite.. I know that cellulite can be found on fit, slim women.. but the majority of the 'bad cases' of cellulite are found in fat women... I've never been overweight.. and I only started to have a little bit of cellulite about 2 years ago..
pollywag Posted March 26, 2009 Posted March 26, 2009 I watched the slide.. and my gawd... some of them we can hardly see the cellulite I know that cellulite can be found on fit, slim women.. but the majority of the 'bad cases' of cellulite are found in fat women... Did you see Evan Langoria's butt? Puuuhlease! But I would agree for some of the others. No, it's more noticeable on fat women because there is more skin to see but there are just as many skinny women with cellulite. It has far less to do with being over weight and more to do with leading a sedentary lifestyle. http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/cellulite/DS00891/DSECTION=causes http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/cellulite/DS00891/DSECTION=risk-factors
Lizzie60 Posted March 26, 2009 Posted March 26, 2009 Eva Langoria.. geeezzz... if this is a woman's biggest complaint about cellulite.. ... Those pictures are nothing compared to some I can show you.. .. Let me look for a few..
pollywag Posted March 26, 2009 Posted March 26, 2009 Eva Langoria.. geeezzz... if this is a woman's biggest complaint about cellulite.. ... Those pictures are nothing compared to some I can show you.. .. Let me look for a few.. Lizzie60, the point I am making is they are skinny women with smoking hot bodies and still have cellulite. I can find pictures of really fat women with cellulite too, thanks. It looks worse on fat bodies but cellulite is not exclusive to overweight bodies. Get it?
Jaytb Posted March 26, 2009 Posted March 26, 2009 I don't mind cellulite, but it becomes unacceptable on fat women. Just another reason to try and stay in shape.
boxing123 Posted March 26, 2009 Posted March 26, 2009 Maybe some women have more cellulite than others. To be honest I never really noticed it with most women I have dated. Perhaps they had a little somewhere I did not see.
Lizzie60 Posted March 26, 2009 Posted March 26, 2009 Lizzie60, the point I am making is they are skinny women with smoking hot bodies and still have cellulite. I can find pictures of really fat women with cellulite too, thanks. It looks worse on fat bodies but cellulite is not exclusive to overweight bodies. Get it? Of course I got it.. see post #163. Did you see Evan Langoria's butt? Puuuhlease! But I would agree for some of the others. I was responding to this comment..
Die Hard Posted March 26, 2009 Posted March 26, 2009 I just wanted to make sure and post that in no way did I bring up cellulite to cause anyone any issues. I just used it as an example of a flaw, especially since it's a common one, so I figured people could relate. Same reason I used penis size for the guys, since that's a common male hang-up. Cellulite isn't that big a deal and if men eliminated having relationships with women with cellulite we'd never get laid or be in a relationship. I was more or less just yapping my mouth yesterday and I now wish I had not used cellulite as an example. Folks are making too big a deal out of it. It was simply an example. Record producer: that was funny. No, I don't want to tear a girl up for my ego's sake:D But it would be nice to be turned down once in awhile for being too big. I think it would be cool. I'd love to tell my best friend "she said I was too big." I can dream, can't I?
mr.dream merchant Posted March 26, 2009 Posted March 26, 2009 Die Hard why are you apologizing? There's a couple female posters on this website that'll crucify you over anything you say. You weren't in the wrong about the whole cellulite thing. It is gross and unattractive. They're trying to show you why cellulite is okay in their eyes which you don't have to agree with at all. **** that. Don't let them shame you because you don't find a lard ass of a woman attractive.
Lizzie60 Posted March 26, 2009 Posted March 26, 2009 'Cellulite' is for woman what 'balding' is for men..
Die Hard Posted March 26, 2009 Posted March 26, 2009 Die Hard why are you apologizing? There's a couple female posters on this website that'll crucify you over anything you say. You weren't in the wrong about the whole cellulite thing. It is gross and unattractive. They're trying to show you why cellulite is okay in their eyes which you don't have to agree with at all. **** that. Don't let them shame you because you don't find a lard ass of a woman attractive.Dude just because you regret something you say it doesn't mean anyone "won" or "lost", etc. This site has a lot of people with issues, one way or the other, or we wouldn't be here. I just don't want any women here obsessing about it any more than necessary. I think your cool and all but you don't need to be calling anyone lard asses. Why take a chance on making someone feel bad just for the sake of a few women who might have issues with men? Lizzie is right though, it's like a guy's penis size, or balding, so I should have realized it would be a touchy issue. That's all I'm saying.
mr.dream merchant Posted March 26, 2009 Posted March 26, 2009 You're right lard ass was intense, overweight women aren't attractive to most men. They should except that, instead of coming in here and crying about it or making a bicker contest out of it. Do you see any men in the female version of this thread crying about how low of a woman they are for thinking a small penis is unattractive? I'm pointing out that a few of the women on here have a complex, and just because they can't handle it doesn't mean you should be apologizing for anything.
Lizzie60 Posted March 26, 2009 Posted March 26, 2009 You're right lard ass was intense, overweight women aren't attractive to most men. They should except that, instead of coming in here and crying about it or making a bicker contest out of it. Do you see any men in the female version of this thread crying about how low of a woman they are for thinking a small penis is unattractive? I'm pointing out that a few of the women on here have a complex, and just because they can't handle it doesn't mean you should be apologizing for anything. I think it's 'accept' btw. and for the 'small penis' I don't think I've read anywhere that a small penis is unattractive.. it's useless...
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