Lizzie60 Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 If any man#woman says that they don't really 'notice' the body.. they're full of it. Every man and woman, when they see THE naked body for the first time.. they automatically think 'nice' or 'very ordinary' or.. whatever.. but they do have an opinion of THE body... People .. just be honest..
St. Nick Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 In all honesty, please: Are you comparing her to the other women you've been with? Are you judging her or rating her? How much do you notice her flaws? I think I may be subconsciously judging her to other women I've been with. Yes, I do rate and judge her looks, but not her personality based on her looks. Yes, I notice her flaws. But if I like what I see than I'll put them down as nitpicks not worth judging her whole body overall.
moman Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 Yes, I notice and compare. The first thing is the breasts, are they firm or saggy? If saggy, that girl will not receive a call back. Also look for extraneous fat, but remember the whole package needs to be considered.
runner Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 In all honesty, please: Are you comparing her to the other women you've been with? Are you judging her or rating her? How much do you notice her flaws? no. no. and no. i'm too busy working it to think in such ways.
carhill Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 I am never getting naked infront of a man again. Looks like we are always being judged. What kind of vehicle? An old bankrupt Saturn brand or a hot sleek little Audi. Why are you so different from most of the guys here? Nature misfired and wired my brain like a woman Seriously, think about that. Remember some of our early discussions about porn and how whacked my perspective sounded. That was your clue Then recently, in the women aging thread, my response to the "porn star bodies" post you made. I don't evidently see women the way men "normally" do (ask my wife), hence the disparity in how women perceive me. It's really tough to run a gasoline engine on diesel
The Collector Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 I am never getting naked infront of a man again. Looks like we are always being judged. You're always being judged, by yourself, and harshly. You should work on that. And you have no opinion on a man when he gets naked for the first time? Doesn't matter if it turns out he has a shrinkie-dinkie? Or how he performs subsequently? You can answer that it doesn't matter to you, but I think we all know all humans are judging each other all time in one way or another, and especially when it comes to nakedness and sex. That's life. OP, are there any 'flaws' you are particularly worried about? Nobody's perfect.
Trialbyfire Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 You're always being judged, by yourself, and harshly. You should work on that. And you have no opinion on a man when he gets naked for the first time? Doesn't matter if it turns out he has a shrinkie-dinkie? Or how he performs subsequently? You can answer that it doesn't matter to you, but I think we all know all humans are judging each other all time in one way or another, and especially when it comes to nakedness and sex. That's life. OP, are there any 'flaws' you are particularly worried about? Nobody's perfect. The Collector, I guess it depends on how much you actually feel for someone. If you're sleeping with people in a compartmentalized fashion, where the act or elements of the act are more important than the entire package, I can understand the judgement. That's because a person's brain isn't fuzzed over by those "silly" love chemicals so you're able to withhold a portion of your mind. Also, if your sole attraction towards someone is of a superficial nature, or if it's not the sole attraction but is the priority in the attraction, this also makes sense. If you've honestly risked the entire investment, then you're a cold person indeed if you're still judging.
mr.dream merchant Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 I admire her for her beauty, instead of focusing on her flaws, I usually focus on what looks the best or what's most pleasing to the eye. I don't compare her to other females I've seen naked. Usually I compare personalities, but not the body. Women come in all kinds of beautiful shapes, sizes, and colors. I don't see how any man could discriminate on a women's physical traits regardless of how beautiful she is.
Jersey Shortie Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 You're always being judged, by yourself, and harshly. You should work on that. If there is one thing I have learned from this board is that most men are even more critical and harsh on women then I previously thought. And you have no opinion on a man when he gets naked for the first time? Doesn't matter if it turns out he has a shrinkie-dinkie? Or how he performs subsequently? Actually I don't. The guy could have six pack or have a beer belly and could still turn me on the seame amount. Depends on the guy, not the body. You can answer that it doesn't matter to you, but I think we all know all humans are judging each other all time in one way or another, and especially when it comes to nakedness and sex. That's life. Sure it is. But I also think alot of men today are looking at airbrushed pictures of 18 year olds and seem to think all women should look like that . and if they don't, we aren't considered good enough. It's not the judging that bothers me but the unrealistic standards men seem to have more times then not. Now you will come back and say men don't. But I know for a fact that many men do.
clv0116 Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 I usually think how cleverly the human body is made.
loveslife Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 I think it's natural for people to be turned off by a body they deem unattractive. But I also think there are societal expectations for both men and women. After a certain age it's probably less likely that someone will be particularly turned off by "flaws" in their partner. Especially if you've waited a while before getting naked with them. I heard some study that the longer a woman waits to have sex with a guy the more attractive he perceives her to be. A part of this might be the thought that he's had to wait for this prize so he sees it (the woman's body) as valuable for that reason in and of itself. Part is also perhaps because the emotional and mental connection have built before the sexual connection. Has anyone seen the movie, "Shallow Hal"? With Jack Black and Gwyneth Paltrow. There's a scene between Hal's friend (played by Jason Alexander) and the motivational speaker guy. Hal's friend can't understand why Hal can't see how huge his girlfriend is. The motivational speaker guy replies with something like Jack is seeing the girl's inner beauty. When we really care about someone that really is what matters. At least for me. I couldn't tell you what "flaws" the bodies of the guys I've been involved with have. I loved them all. So, here's another question - Can we possibly love our partner's physical "flaws'?
GorillaTheater Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 If there is one thing I have learned from this board is that most men are even more critical and harsh on women then I previously thought. If that's true, then you're focusing on a minority of posts and ignoring the posts by most men. Apparently you do that by choice, and my guess is that's because those posts reinforce the negative attitudes you have about yourself and about men in general. Sad, but your choice.
loveslife Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 If that's true, then you're focusing on a minority of posts and ignoring the posts by most men. Apparently you do that by choice, and my guess is that's because those posts reinforce the negative attitudes you have about yourself and about men in general. Sad, but your choice. I totally agree that the way we read the posts here AND our partners' behavior has to do with how we feel about ourselves.
Trialbyfire Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 JS, I have a theory about jaded and not jaded. For the volumized people, they seek the thrill of sex v. sex as a form of bonding between two people who honestly care about each other as an entirety. With this in mind, of course the product and product mechanisms (acts of sex) are analyzed and compared. If the greater thrill isn't there, they're going to move onto someone who will provide the greater thrill. It can turn into the neverending quest for a more exotic type of act or better body, since that's all that matters. You can equate it to the enjoyment of food. The more range and type of food you've been exposed to, the less you eat to fill your stomach and the greater range of cuisines you seek, the exotic and time intensive, the better.
Jersey Shortie Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 If that's true, then you're focusing on a minority of posts and ignoring the posts by most men. Apparently you do that by choice, and my guess is that's because those posts reinforce the negative attitudes you have about yourself and about men in general. Sad, but your choice. The negative posts about women here aren't the minority. I'm not the only one, male or female, who can see that.
GorillaTheater Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 The negative posts about women here aren't the minority. I'm not the only one, male or female, who can see that. I disagree, but let's say you're right: are you going to let a frickin' internet forum color your life and perceptions to the degree you apparently have? C'mon ...
bean1 Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 I find the misogynist posts quite hilarious because they are so embarassing.
Die Hard Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 Actually I don't. The guy could have six pack or have a beer belly and could still turn me on the seame amount. Depends on the guy, not the body. Yeah and none of what I personally said changes this fact for me either. I feel the exact same way. The best sex and the best women(personality wise) I have ever been with did NOT have perfect looking bodies. I don't understand the way you, and some of the other women are looking at this. In fact, re-reading your post again, you ADMIT noticing either the six pack or the beer gut!! What makes you different than the guys in this thread? I've seen a few posts regarding sagging breast, but those seem like joke posts or troll posts, but the men who've admitted noticing flaws have not said it would affect how they feel about the naked woman in question. I may be off base here but I think some of the women read these posts and let their own insecurities color what they are reading.
Jersey Shortie Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 I disagree, but let's say you're right: are you going to let a frickin' internet forum color your life and perceptions to the degree you apparently have? C'mon ... Well you make a good point. But wouldn't you think an internet forum would a general reflection of how most men and women few the other gender? I don't understand the way you, and some of the other women are looking at this. In fact, re-reading your post again, you ADMIT noticing either the six pack or the beer gut!! What makes you different than the guys in this thread? Of course I notice the difference cause I have eye balls. But I don't sit there and compare either one to each other or am less attracted to the one with the beer gut. I think a few men said here that they do compare and do find the woman a little less attractive.
Die Hard Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 Well you make a good point. But wouldn't you think an internet forum would a general reflection of how most men and women few the other gender?Please check out my previous post. You ladies are reading way too much into this thread and it's responses to the OP.
GorillaTheater Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 Well you make a good point. But wouldn't you think an internet forum would a general reflection of how most men and women few the other gender? Not one where most people are here because of serious difficulties they're having with the opposite sex. And even then, it seems to me that most folks here STILL love the opposite sex. I know I do.
Die Hard Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 Of course I notice the difference cause I have eye balls. But I don't sit there and compare either one to each other or am less attracted to the one with the beer gut. I think a few men said here that they do compare and do find the woman a little less attractive.But that was the question in the OP!! DO YOU NOTICE FLAWS. Some of the guys said yes, and you admit you do too, but men are the bad guys??? I just don't get it. The OP didn't ask if men threw women out of bed after getting them naked, nor have any serious responses by men said so. Seems to me some women have issues with men simply having eyes and a human brain.
Jersey Shortie Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 Okay, point well taken. I still get a little upset with some of the posters here though. But that was the question in the OP!! DO YOU NOTICE FLAWS. Some of the guys said yes, and you admit you do too, but men are the bad guys??? I just don't get it. That is because you keep leaving out chunks of from my comments.
Isolde Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 You can equate it to the enjoyment of food. The more range and type of food you've been exposed to, the less you eat to fill your stomach and the greater range of cuisines you seek, the exotic and time intensive, the better. Though casual isn't my thing, there are plenty of people who compartmentalize and are still pretty tolerant of a wide variety of physiques. I also don't agree that exposure to diversity is necessarily an indication of a short attention span. For example, playing a numbers game with dating, while not necessarily wise, could lead to finding that one lovably imperfect person.
zhsoj Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 I think: Gee, that's pretty good, I wonder if I can find more free galleries of her
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