GorillaTheater Posted March 26, 2009 Posted March 26, 2009 I put a .45 to the mrs. Head , it was unloaded, but it was in the heat of a bad arguement, i am madder at her than him. I havent seen him and am scared of what i might do to him if i did. Time heals but u will never forget I'm probably risking an infraction, but how big of a nut are you? You put a gun to your wife's head? The same wife you've mentioned in another thread you want to stay married to? Cheater or not, SHE would be the nut to stay with you. Just damn.
Athena Posted March 26, 2009 Posted March 26, 2009 On a brighter note, in 20 years (GOD willing) she'll walk out of prison with a chance to start a new life while his dumbazz will still remain molding in a cold hole in the ground! Although we don't always get what we deserve we sometimes get exactly what we pray for and so, with everyone and everything in its proper place, the day may turn bright with the promise of the morn and all will be right with the world!!! Wow, I absolutely agree... what that tormenting a$$ did to her was terrible, and he arrogantly thought he had the right to do all that?! I too would have voted for the 2 years, not 20. However -- who the hell is going to date her when she gets out?! Who would feel safe with her?
Woggle Posted March 26, 2009 Posted March 26, 2009 The way I see it is that if you just move on with your life the universe will punish those who do you wrong. I don't know what happened to the OM but I know my ex lost big time since it all happened. There is no need to take your own revenge on a person. The OM is probably involved with a woman that cheats on him and treats him like crap.
jwi71 Posted March 26, 2009 Posted March 26, 2009 I put a .45 to the mrs. Head , it was unloaded, but it was in the heat of a bad arguement, i am madder at her than him. I havent seen him and am scared of what i might do to him if i did. Time heals but u will never forget Well Still Wondering I hope you can handle yourself in prison because that's where YOU belong. And I sincerely hope your W(?) puts you there with a phone call to the cops. Were I to know who you were...I would call the cops myself. That behavior cannot and will not be tolerated. Not only is that severe EMOTIONAL and psychological abuse - its illegal.
Woggle Posted March 26, 2009 Posted March 26, 2009 The gun was unloaded and he wasn't going to do anything. I am not trying to excuse it but these same people who are defending a wom an who ran over he husband with her daughter in the car are condemning a man who simply made a threat.
Chrome Barracuda Posted March 26, 2009 Posted March 26, 2009 The gun was unloaded and he wasn't going to do anything. I am not trying to excuse it but these same people who are defending a wom an who ran over he husband with her daughter in the car are condemning a man who simply made a threat. An unloaded gun to vehicular manslaughter to murder, makes really no difference.
marlena Posted March 26, 2009 Posted March 26, 2009 The way I see it is that if you just move on with your life the universe will punish those who do you wrong. No, not necessarily. Many people go unpunished in this world. Moving on means not caring whether they are punished or not.
jwi71 Posted March 26, 2009 Posted March 26, 2009 The gun was unloaded and he wasn't going to do anything. I am not trying to excuse it Woggle...what do you think you are doing?
Woggle Posted March 26, 2009 Posted March 26, 2009 No, not necessarily. Many people go unpunished in this world. Moving on means not caring whether they are punished or not. Sooner or later they get their's. Everybody who has done me wrong has in someway been punished by life.
pelicanpreacher Posted March 27, 2009 Posted March 27, 2009 Sooner or later they get their's. Everybody who has done me wrong has in someway been punished by life. But it never hurts to grease the old wheels a little!
pelicanpreacher Posted March 27, 2009 Posted March 27, 2009 I'll freely admit...I absolutely considered doing it. It remained a fantasy of mine for the first few months after d-day. Point blank, straight up truth for you there. But...I also knew it for what it was...I had no true INTENTION of going and doing anything along those lines. I had kids to worry about, and there was no way I was going to hurt them by taking off after OM. It simply wasn't worth it. Am I a violent person by nature? No. Am I capable of it? Absolutely. At the end of the day, I chose not to do anything to OM. As a matter of fact...I forgave him. Just as I forgave my wife. I stopped, thought about things, and put myself in his position. I can see what went on from his viewpoint...it doesn't make what happened right, but it makes it understandable. Now...if he were to suddenly show up NOW, and attempt to do the same things all over again...all bets are off. The difference this time is that I absolutely believe that my wife wouldn't give him the chance to get close to her again. And herein this post lies revelation as to the mystery of the Sphynx!!! (Hi'ya doin Liz!)
pelicanpreacher Posted March 27, 2009 Posted March 27, 2009 No, not necessarily. Many people go unpunished in this world. Moving on means not caring whether they are punished or not. Uhmmmmm no! Nobody gets out of this life alive and, though we may escape punishment in the public eye, we all suffer from our misdeeds!
RecordProducer Posted March 27, 2009 Posted March 27, 2009 This thread makes me really sad as to how people think that their feelings matter more than somebody's life. You don't have to stay with a person who hurt you emotionally. You can walk away. Nobody owes you anything in this world. You're nobody. You're hurt because somebody didn't want you - that's your problem. They don't deserve to die for NOT wanting you or cheating on you. Leave! If you think that your ego is more important than somebody's life - you're wrong. You're so wrong. And so petty, small, and insecure. You're all utterly disgusting.
imagine Posted March 27, 2009 Posted March 27, 2009 This thread makes me really sad as to how people think that their feelings matter more than somebody's life. You don't have to stay with a person who hurt you emotionally. You can walk away. Nobody owes you anything in this world. You're nobody. You're hurt because somebody didn't want you - that's your problem. They don't deserve to die for NOT wanting you or cheating on you. Leave! If you think that your ego is more important than somebody's life - you're wrong. You're so wrong. And so petty, small, and insecure. You're all utterly disgusting. Another opinion in a pluralist stage. Can this be termed fundamentalism?
Woggle Posted March 27, 2009 Posted March 27, 2009 But it never hurts to grease the old wheels a little! Maybe not but I never had to do a thing.
RecordProducer Posted March 27, 2009 Posted March 27, 2009 Another opinion in a pluralist stage. Can this be termed fundamentalism? You don't even know what you're talking about; you're just randomly piling up words that sound cool to your ears. If you have a point, you're welcome to express it. I was referring to the people who posted in this thread - not to the entire world.
marlena Posted March 27, 2009 Posted March 27, 2009 This thread makes me really sad as to how people think that their feelings matter more than somebody's life. You don't have to stay with a person who hurt you emotionally. You can walk away. Nobody owes you anything in this world. You're nobody. You're hurt because somebody didn't want you - that's your problem. They don't deserve to die for NOT wanting you or cheating on you. Leave! If you think that your ego is more important than somebody's life - you're wrong. You're so wrong. And so petty, small, and insecure. This is how civilized, educated and mentally stable think. Even when they hurt dreadfully, theu use their brains and not their muscles. They find ways to cope with their fierce emotions.
bentnotbroken Posted March 27, 2009 Posted March 27, 2009 This thread makes me really sad as to how people think that their feelings matter more than somebody's life. You don't have to stay with a person who hurt you emotionally. You can walk away. Nobody owes you anything in this world. You're nobody. You're hurt because somebody didn't want you - that's your problem. They don't deserve to die for NOT wanting you or cheating on you. Leave! If you think that your ego is more important than somebody's life - you're wrong. You're so wrong. And so petty, small, and insecure. You're all utterly disgusting. Agreed. The law says I have the right to protect myself. Mr. Messy felt like him having unprotected sex was more important than my life or leaving my children with a sick or dead parent. He knowingly exposed me to STd's more than one time over the period of our marriage. I am more than civilized, that's why he and the ow still breath, but I am human and a slap in the nuts is nothing compared to the pain I had to endure for over 18 months as I was tested to make sure I didn't have some incurable disease.
Owl Posted March 27, 2009 Posted March 27, 2009 RP, you've apparently not lived in the same world I have. If you think this thread is disgusting, you need to get out more. Travel to Central America, travel to Africa, go check out how people treat people all the time. Heck, live on the streets in Chicago for a couple of months. I see in this thread where people initially responded in anger to the sheer emotional trauma and devestation they felt at the time of their betrayal. Some, indeed went "too far" (putting a gun to a WS's head falls into this category). But what you'll also find is that MOST people didn't ACT on their impulses at the end of it all. I'd love to live in the utterly civilized utopia that you've apparently found...but frankly, the world I live in still has people hurting people every moment. I'm sorry if I've disappointed you. I strive to be a better person, an empathetic and caring one who does his best to help people. But to do that, you've got to have a good understanding of them. EVERYONE is capable of violence. At times, EVERYONE contemplates it. In times of extreme emotional distress and trauma, it's not at all unusual for people to consider violence...or even act on it. Human nature. Even yours, although you may not wish to admit it.
Woggle Posted March 27, 2009 Posted March 27, 2009 I understand how a person can be pushed to violence but giving up your freedom when you could just kick them to the curb and live your life is a pretty stupid thing to do.
Maladjusted Posted March 27, 2009 Posted March 27, 2009 This thread makes me really sad as to how people think that their feelings matter more than somebody's life. You don't have to stay with a person who hurt you emotionally. You can walk away. Nobody owes you anything in this world. You're nobody. You're hurt because somebody didn't want you - that's your problem. They don't deserve to die for NOT wanting you or cheating on you. Leave! If you think that your ego is more important than somebody's life - you're wrong. You're so wrong. And so petty, small, and insecure. You're all utterly disgusting. I don't think someone deserves to die for committing infidelity. When I hear about someone dying because of infidelity, does it make sad? No. Does it make me happy? No. I merely shrug and think that people should think about the possible consequences of their actions. I don't think that people venting their emotions makes them all "utterly disgusting". I think it makes them human.
Woggle Posted March 27, 2009 Posted March 27, 2009 As much as I hate cheaters they don't deserve to die and if a spouse kills them they should not get a lighter sentence. Why is it so hard to just leave? If a spouse or a partner betrays you just end it with them?
Owl Posted March 27, 2009 Posted March 27, 2009 As much as I hate cheaters they don't deserve to die and if a spouse kills them they should not get a lighter sentence. Why is it so hard to just leave? If a spouse or a partner betrays you just end it with them? And that's what the vast majority of people do...they either leave, or learn to forgive. How many actual situations have we seen here on LS where someone truly attacked the OW/OM, or WS? Very, very few. Most considered it...but very few acted on that impulse. I considered it...but didn't act on it.
pelicanpreacher Posted March 27, 2009 Posted March 27, 2009 This thread makes me really sad as to how people think that their feelings matter more than somebody's life. You don't have to stay with a person who hurt you emotionally. You can walk away. Nobody owes you anything in this world. You're nobody. You're hurt because somebody didn't want you - that's your problem. They don't deserve to die for NOT wanting you or cheating on you. Leave! If you think that your ego is more important than somebody's life - you're wrong. You're so wrong. And so petty, small, and insecure. You're all utterly disgusting. This is how civilized, educated and mentally stable think. Even when they hurt dreadfully, theu use their brains and not their muscles. They find ways to cope with their fierce emotions. You two are some peas in a pod aren't you? You spew your sanctimony like you walk on water without expressing one whit of true insight into the fragility of the human condition. I remember seeing a documentary on the British penal colony of Devil's Island where the camera man focused his lens on an old man standing and staring into space while mumbling and shivering in 100 degree heat and softly crying to himself ... neither speaking nor acknowledging the presence of anyone around him. It made me wonder what crime he'd committed against society or within prison that required his jailers to shatter his mind to that extent. On the opposite end of the spectrum I can recollect a newscast of a child born in the subsaharan continent of Africa, who's body was wracked with anguishing pain from cholera or aids and slowly dying without ryhme or reason never knowing what crime it committed to demand the horror it was enduring or even conceiving the concept death as a notion. The worst however was a newsflash of the slaughter happening in Uganda where a man laid prostrate upon a sidewalk with his eyes lifelessly fixed and staring and body hacked up so badly his joints were completely exposed as his blood soaked the concrete around him. As you can see, death comes in many forms and, though physical death is permanent, it is not, by far, the worst state of existence known to man. Now, let's take a look at the life and death of David Harris. He knew none of the strife expounded above but, instead, lived very very well. He had a daughter by his first marriage and twins through his wife Clara. She was a hard working and devoted wife and mother fully committed to meeting the needs of her husband and children without reservation. David, on the other hand, seemed to have a penchant for narcissism which allowed him to easily engage in behavior destructive to those around him without consideration for the ramifications to those he affected. He found particular delight in twisting the mind and self-esteem of his wife in such knots that she actively began pursuing cosmetic surgery at his behest in a deluded attempt to appease his wishes and save her marriage. What he failed to realize though was when you purposely plunge those that truly love you into hell you neither know what paths lay before them nor control which doors they desparately snatch open to escape. There is a thin line between love and hate and should the beleaguered follow the wrong path and open the wrong door in Hell the tormentor may come to know the pain of the tormented in the worst way. In that I'm reminded of a phrase spoken by Clint Eastwood in the movie "Unforgiven" where he tells Little Bill just before he blows his head off ... "Deserve's got nothing to do with it"!
Woggle Posted March 27, 2009 Posted March 27, 2009 They are both right. What David Harris did was dead wrong but how does that justify running over him with your daughter in the car. That will traumatize her for life when her mother could have just divorced his as and shown her daughter an example of a woman who respects herself more than to put up with a cheater. Now she has a dead cheater for a father and a murderer for a mother. Some people on here sound no better than those islamic nations who allow men to kill women for adultry.
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