Sam Spade Posted March 24, 2009 Posted March 24, 2009 And what makes YOU the man that women dream of? You can be happy with a goat, as far as I'm concerned. Plenty, the question is why do I have to convince you ? I'm very happy with a goat, as long as it is in the form of a jacket. Best hide ever for leather jackets. Soft and supple, but resilient - like girlfriend's skin.
Jaytb Posted March 24, 2009 Posted March 24, 2009 Good question. There are 2 issues that I brought up in my original post. 1. Men my age or older wanting to date women 18-20, and 2. Men wanting to only date women younger than them (regardless of age). Most men will prefer to date younger women. I wouldn't look at this as a problem. Although I would automatically delete a 30 year old wanting to date an 18 year old, I likely would not immediately discard a 30 year old wanting to date a 22 year old. That's not as extreme. I still think a 22 year old is too young for a 30 year old... but not outrageous. I would be much more comfortable if the same guy prefered women, say 24+, but if he prefers women 22+ I'd probably still give him a chance... just proceed with more caution. HOWEVER, that being said... I'd be much more open to a 30 year old man wanting to date women 22-36, than I would for a 30 year old man wanting to date women 22-28 (or even 22-30). It it were the latter, I would automatically delete his profile...I thought before you said you wouldn't delete his profile? as something about that just makes me uncomfortable. I don't know why exactly... but I leap to some sort of conclusion about the guy being patriarchal etc in only wanting a younger woman. It's like the guy who only wants to date a woman up to his height. I don't think it has anything to do with patriarchy. All it is is a preference. I think when people like you make a big deal about someone's preferences, they're making assumptions about the person, and typically that's just unfair. After all, would you like someone to judge you based on your preferences? A guy who needs to be bigger, taller, older, more educated than his future partner (due to insecurity/control issues)... I don't think I would be compatible with that person. That's what I'm getting at here.Ha, I thought women were the ones that needed a bigger taller older more educated partner.
Jaytb Posted March 24, 2009 Posted March 24, 2009 All these age threads makes me realize that no matter what you do as a woman, we are fighting a loosing battle because men don't really give a crap about us as people apparently and care more about if we are 18 or not anymore. Is there such a thing as real love or only lust when it comes to men? I guess you men win and we women loose. Hope this makes you men feel happy and more like men because it makes me feel pretty hopeless about finding a turly good man that will think I am goregous and sexy despite getting older, as we all do. Uh oh, our secret is out!!! She found out that we only want sex!! And we only want hot, young a$$! Do you really think this? I am actually tired of this attitude because then guys like me are written off as only after sex when in fact I enjoy love and romance just as much as you. I guess men are more physical than women, but that doesn't mean we only want sex. With regards to age, plenty of older women still find partners as well. Oh by the way, you will feel hopeless about finding a partner because your perception is going to ensure that you won't find a partner, like some sort of self fulfilling prophecy.
Sam Spade Posted March 24, 2009 Posted March 24, 2009 Oh lord...now that smacks of someone who's not educated and got a chip, to deem anyone else as being "over-educated". There's no such thing as being over-educated. If you stop learning, you're stagnant and realistically speaking, boring as hell. Yes, there is - any person who thinks they're smart or deserve better treatment *just because* they've got a degree is an overeducated child. (And yes, I've got the highest degree there is, so i can make this point all i want without being accused of bitterness ). Whether or not you're curious and keep learning is probably facilitated by being (formally) educated, but hardly determined by it.
Trialbyfire Posted March 24, 2009 Posted March 24, 2009 Yes, there is - any person who thinks they're smart or deserve better treatment *just because* they've got a degree is an overeducated child. (And yes, I've got the highest degree there is, so i can make this point all i want without being accused of bitterness ). Whether or not you're curious and keep learning is probably facilitated by being (formally) educated, but hardly determined by it. That would be your own insecurities coming into play. If you're feeling condescended towards A LOT, then this is something within you not feeling that you "match up" to whomever you feel is condescending towards you. Anyways, if you're bright enough, it's easy to turn condescension around, without making a federal case of it.
Sam Spade Posted March 24, 2009 Posted March 24, 2009 That would be your own insecurities coming into play. If you're feeling condescended towards A LOT, then this is something within you not feeling that you "match up" to whomever you feel is condescending towards you. Anyways, if you're bright enough, it's easy to turn condescension around, without making a federal case of it. No way, I'm totally making a federal case out of this - poor manners are serious crime, punishable by death (dispassionately - Dr. Lecter style.)
RecordProducer Posted March 24, 2009 Posted March 24, 2009 I'm surprised this bugs you, considering that you recently bashed doctors and other "clean-cut" professionals for not being passionate, artistic, and unique . . . I never said anything like that. After all, I am an accomplished artist, and a future lawyer myself. The context was different. Your occupation doesn't make you an artistic, unique person. Artistic people are not necessarily artists. I'm very happy with a goat, as long as it is in the form of a jacket. Haha! That was funny.
Trialbyfire Posted March 24, 2009 Posted March 24, 2009 All this tells you abouit how superficial guys are. They only care about a hot, young ass. They can be doctors but they don't care if the woman is a nothing, as long as she's hot. A classic example of such.
Isolde Posted March 24, 2009 Posted March 24, 2009 I'm slightly irritated when people make an effort to date people a lot younger/older than they are, just to prove a point. Each relationship deserves to be taken individually. Let's keep in mind that most of us will bend on preferences, given a suitable person. For example, though I said my range was 25-30, I'd easily date a 22-year old guy, given that he was mature and wanted a committed R.
justcurious66 Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 Oh my, that grocery list of qualifications was quite something! I am 24 almost 25 and I have to say that I only date older men...the most recent man I dated was 40 and I am interested in a guy who is 41(see my post up at the top of the dating forum on THIS dude) and my former husband was 37. However, I will say, I am not like most 24/25 year olds. I do not party, I do not need constant entertainment, and I have clear cut goals and direction in my life. Most guys my age are completely worthless...so why wouldn't I date older men? They are generally about the same level of maturity I am, bonus if they have kids, they have stable careers, investments and usually have a good sense of what they want and where they are going in their lives. They do not play games (thank god) and they say what they mean. Most older men I have dated I have found to be very honest, sometimes brutally so, but that's because they really don't care! And I respect that so much, it's so refreshing. To date me, all I require is that you are intelligent, you are honest, you treat me well and are respectful of my feelings and needs, and you are interesting to me (this last part they can't really help, which is why I am always the one doing the asking out so I find someone that really sparks an interest in me). Looks do not matter to me whatsoever, my sexual attraction is based on personality alone. And no I am not ugly. There, I just said that. And it's true. Let's not let the word get out that older men is where it's at...let us few in the know have all the good ones first
mental_traveller Posted March 31, 2009 Posted March 31, 2009 Actually, I find it more creepy for a guy to try to bang a 20 year old girl when he is 30 then him trying to have a relationship with her. At least the guy trying to have the relationship has more respect for her. The first is pretty selfish. I think it's sickening to discriminate against people purely on the basis of their age.
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