burning 4 revenge Posted March 24, 2009 Posted March 24, 2009 You want to live a little? Like eating a New York Strip or a Porterhouse? So if you want to treat them as meat just be direct about it
burning 4 revenge Posted March 24, 2009 Posted March 24, 2009 Pffffttt....Abercrombie? Armani is much nicer! who can afford Armani
BCCA Posted March 24, 2009 Posted March 24, 2009 Pffffttt....Abercrombie? Armani is much nicer! Heh, the point I probably didnt make well enough is here is someone who has come up with 135 different things she wants in a man. Now, a lot of them are similar and not too much to ask really, but they give you an idea of what she thought a woman should be entitled to ask for. I asked her what she brought to the table, her answer? You guessed it: "Well, I think I'm pretty cute and fun to be around'. So, she'll give 2 things (with the cute part being something that has nothing to do with an effort she'll make), and expect a 135 in return. Thats the problem. And its a fact of life that a girl in her early 20's is probably going to be more sexual and willing to explore than a girl in their 30's. Not that women stop having sex at a certain age, or that everyone is the same, but girls my age when I was 21 were WAY more sexual than girls my age now, and I've still got a few years to 30. Also, I've met girls in their 30's who had a 'what I wont do' list, which while understandble, screams 'my way or the highway'. I think guys really want girls who are cute, like sex, and are fun to be around. Thats pretty much it at the core. Women have a lot more hurdles, IMHO.
Sam Spade Posted March 24, 2009 Posted March 24, 2009 How about not attracted to them? It's a classic myth perpetuated by single mature women that men their age are "frightened" of them. It goes hand-in-hand with the b.s. idea that it's time for a guy to "man up" and get married. Men in their 30s have more options, generally speaking, than in they probably did in their 20s. Excuse them if they want to live a little. Well, then, laugh all you want at the 35-year-old dating the 21-year-old. You think he cares? And what makes you the arbiter of propriety? There is nothing inappropriate about it. The first part I agree with, to an extent. I'm 32, and while i appreciate having options i certainly don't want to resemble a despicable, self-indulgent baby-boomer only concerned with mindlessly prolonging his endless adolescence as much as possible. So, I do have options, but what's the point of bagging a few more chicks just because I could do it? As for dating 21 year olds, sounds great in theory, but In practice it would be like going to see a hooker (which I have no problem with), except more complicated. Unless a girl this young is exceptionally mature (the odds for which are very low), I'm not crimping my style just so I could relate to a piece of lamb .
Meaplus3 Posted March 24, 2009 Posted March 24, 2009 I've always viewed men who looked for someone substantially younger, as being immature and unable to meet the needs of someone who has more on their minds than shopping, drugs, booze and trivialities. It also says a lot about their self-esteem, confidence level and fear of aging, so I totally get where you're coming from. I'm with TBF here.. well said. Mea:)
burning 4 revenge Posted March 24, 2009 Posted March 24, 2009 WTF there are 2 Sam Spades? Maybe Im seeing things as Ive been on LS too much this week
Citizen Erased Posted March 24, 2009 Posted March 24, 2009 WTF there are 2 Sam Spades? Maybe Im seeing things as Ive been on LS too much this week One is Sam Spade, other is samspade.
burning 4 revenge Posted March 24, 2009 Posted March 24, 2009 One is Sam Spade, other is samspade. do they know each other?
Meaplus3 Posted March 24, 2009 Posted March 24, 2009 One is Sam Spade, other is samspade. Thanks for clearing that up. I thought my eyesight was going.:laugh: Mea;)
BCCA Posted March 24, 2009 Posted March 24, 2009 I've always viewed men who looked for someone substantially younger, as being immature and unable to meet the needs of someone who has more on their minds than shopping, drugs, booze and trivialities. It also says a lot about their self-esteem, confidence level and fear of aging, so I totally get where you're coming from The problem with this is that there are plenty of women in their 30's and 40's with the same mindset. Its not age specific. And all most guys are going to do is read that and think: jealous, bitter. I'm not saying it to be true, but as someone mentioned, a 35 year old guy with a 21 year old gf probably doesnt care if you call him immature. I think questioning their self esteem is again a bit ambiguous. There are plenty of people with self esteem problems married to someone their age, well out of their 20's. As far as age goes, I think to each their own. Im not going to judge someone for who they decide to spend thier time with. As long as she isnt underage legally, isnt being abused or manipulated, whats the harm?
Citizen Erased Posted March 24, 2009 Posted March 24, 2009 do they know each other? I'm not a mind reader, ask them. Thanks for clearing that up. I thought my eye sight was going.:laugh: Mea;) It took me a second too, don't worry.
Trialbyfire Posted March 24, 2009 Posted March 24, 2009 The problem with this is that there are plenty of women in their 30's and 40's with the same mindset. Its not age specific. And all most guys are going to do is read that and think: jealous, bitter. I'm not saying it to be true, but as someone mentioned, a 35 year old guy with a 21 year old gf probably doesnt care if you call him immature. I think questioning their self esteem is again a bit ambiguous. There are plenty of people with self esteem problems married to someone their age, well out of their 20's. As far as age goes, I think to each their own. Im not going to judge someone for who they decide to spend thier time with. As long as she isnt underage legally, isnt being abused or manipulated, whats the harm? I don't much care what other people do, since the only people who know what stage in life they're in, is themselves. But in the past, pre-snowman, it's the way I viewed men from a potential mate selection process. If the guy showed much interest in substantially younger women, it would be a "no go", for the reasons I mentioned. Now to be fair, I dated a man for a couple of rounds, who was almost 10 years older than I was. He was in a real hurry to settle down, wanting to introduce me to his parents on our third date. In retrospect, perhaps this was once again, a difference in stage in life as applied to age in life.
burning 4 revenge Posted March 24, 2009 Posted March 24, 2009 I don't much care what other people do, since the only people who know what stage in life they're in, is themselves. But in the past, pre-snowman, it's the way I viewed men from a potential mate selection process. If the guy showed much interest in substantially younger women, it would be a "no go", for the reasons I mentioned. Now to be fair, I dated a man for a couple of rounds, who was almost 10 years older than I was. He was in a real hurry to settle down, wanting to introduce me to his parents on our third date. In retrospect, perhaps this was once again, a difference in stage in life as applied to age in life. If a guy is having a hard time fiscally and hasnt settled on a life career and hes in his mid 30's dont you think its hard for him to date women his own age
Trialbyfire Posted March 24, 2009 Posted March 24, 2009 If a guy is having a hard time fiscally and hasnt settled on a life career and hes in his mid 30's dont you think its hard for him to date women his own age It depends on if he's making any attempts to turn himself around or not. It also depends on the woman. Not every woman wants the same thing.
BCCA Posted March 24, 2009 Posted March 24, 2009 It depends on if he's making any attempts to turn himself around or not. It also depends on the woman. Not every woman wants the same thing. Very true.
Sam Spade Posted March 24, 2009 Posted March 24, 2009 Thanks for clearing that up. I thought my eyesight was going.:laugh: Mea;) I'm the real deal babe, and you know it ,
Danger Posted March 24, 2009 Posted March 24, 2009 Im kind of scared of women my age because most of them have their sh*t together I cant help but feel that a lot of guys who date significantly younger are somehow frightened of women in their own age group,. Scared of somehow being judged and found wanting in some way Its hard for me to take a man who is 35 seriously as a human being if hes dating someone 21. Even if he loves that girl...and there are some great girls in that age group to be sure..shouldnt he care for her enough to know better and to want her to find love in a more appropriate place Why would you be scared of women your own age or who have their "$hit together"? Hell most women I know of any age are loaded with credit card debt. The older ones just have kids along the way too. My last two gf's have been younger than me by ten years, and only one man has had a problem with it, the rest have been women. I tell them all the same thing. I don't have a problem dating a woman my age, but most have let their bodies go to crap or they have children, both are dealbreakers for me.
D-Lish Posted March 24, 2009 Posted March 24, 2009 My last two gf's have been younger than me by ten years, and only one man has had a problem with it, the rest have been women. I tell them all the same thing. I don't have a problem dating a woman my age, but most have let their bodies go to crap or they have children, both are dealbreakers for me. My last few bf's have been more than 10 years younger than me... and I didn't have one male friend see a problem with it... but my female associates did. I'd like to date men in their 30's, same age bracket as myself... but I see children and letting oneself go as a deal breaker as well. I've dealt with baby mamma drama before and I don't want to go there again. The last guy I dated was 27- and he was already starting to let himself go... Meh- It would be great to date a wisdomous 40 year old in a 23 year olds body. Or maybe just a 23 year old with wisdom....:lmao:
Danger Posted March 24, 2009 Posted March 24, 2009 My last few bf's have been more than 10 years younger than me... and I didn't have one male friend see a problem with it... but my female associates did. I'd like to date men in their 30's, same age bracket as myself... but I see children and letting oneself go as a deal breaker as well. I've dealt with baby mamma drama before and I don't want to go there again. The last guy I dated was 27- and he was already starting to let himself go... Meh- It would be great to date a wisdomous 40 year old in a 23 year olds body. Or maybe just a 23 year old with wisdom....:lmao: Interesting, my female friends were the first to say "You go girl" when a 45 year old woman was dating a 30 year old man. I suppose different groups of women have different perspectives. I do think that men are more open minded about dating someone younger as opposed to women. I wonder why.
RecordProducer Posted March 24, 2009 Posted March 24, 2009 GD, I would also drag your attention to the education preferences. I've noticed that guys with PhD's don't mind dating a woman who's a high-school dropout (almost), while women don't want to date men who are LESS educated than themselves. All this tells you abouit how superficial guys are. They only care about a hot, young ass. They can be doctors but they don't care if the woman is a nothing, as long as she's hot. And if you have no more than high school in your belt, you might defend it as "unimportant" which I might agree with, as my very best friends don't have college degrees. But the point is that men only care about chemistry in the initial phase. They are not equipped to think about long-term conditions at the beginning. These same men will probably ditch the 18-year old girls as immature after a few months of dating. So, don't write them off. Just accept the differences. They simply don't see things in advance, as you or I do. That's my opinion.
Danger Posted March 24, 2009 Posted March 24, 2009 GD, I would also drag your attention to the education preferences. I've noticed that guys with PhD's don't mind dating a woman who's a high-school dropout (almost), while women don't want to date men who are LESS educated than themselves. All this tells you abouit how superficial guys are. They only care about a hot, young ass. They can be doctors but they don't care if the woman is a nothing, as long as she's hot. And if you have no more than high school in your belt, you might defend it as "unimportant" which I might agree with, as my very best friends don't have college degrees. But the point is that men only care about chemistry in the initial phase. They are not equipped to think about long-term conditions at the beginning. These same men will probably ditch the 18-year old girls as immature after a few months of dating. So, don't write them off. Just accept the differences. They simply don't see things in advance, as you or I do. That's my opinion. I date women for their attractiveness and compatibility. I don't care if they are just a waitress or don't have a PhD. Even long-term I would be ok with that, so I suppose you are correct. I wouldn't call it superficial though, at least, no more superficial than caring about what kind of college degree a man has or what his earning potential will bring to the table. Both sides have their "flaws".
Citizen Erased Posted March 24, 2009 Posted March 24, 2009 GD, I would also drag your attention to the education preferences. I've noticed that guys with PhD's don't mind dating a woman who's a high-school dropout (almost), while women don't want to date men who are LESS educated than themselves. All this tells you abouit how superficial guys are. They only care about a hot, young ass. They can be doctors but they don't care if the woman is a nothing, as long as she's hot. And if you have no more than high school in your belt, you might defend it as "unimportant" which I might agree with, as my very best friends don't have college degrees. But the point is that men only care about chemistry in the initial phase. They are not equipped to think about long-term conditions at the beginning. These same men will probably ditch the 18-year old girls as immature after a few months of dating. So, don't write them off. Just accept the differences. They simply don't see things in advance, as you or I do. That's my opinion. And this is why I would be very hesitant about dating someone 10-15 years older than me. What may seem wonderful and refreshing to someone in their 30's or so about someone in their early 20's, really people my age don't have enough emotional depth to keep the interest of someone looking for anything more than a little fun. IMHO of course.
Sam Spade Posted March 24, 2009 Posted March 24, 2009 GD, I would also drag your attention to the education preferences. I've noticed that guys with PhD's don't mind dating a woman who's a high-school dropout (almost), while women don't want to date men who are LESS educated than themselves. All this tells you abouit how superficial guys are. They only care about a hot, young ass. They can be doctors but they don't care if the woman is a nothing, as long as she's hot. And if you have no more than high school in your belt, you might defend it as "unimportant" which I might agree with, as my very best friends don't have college degrees. But the point is that men only care about chemistry in the initial phase. They are not equipped to think about long-term conditions at the beginning. These same men will probably ditch the 18-year old girls as immature after a few months of dating. So, don't write them off. Just accept the differences. They simply don't see things in advance, as you or I do. That's my opinion. How is caring where the guy got his degree from any less superficial than prioritising something other than that . And no, it's not ass. I have a PhD, and my ex had both a PhD and a smoking body. But, I am way happier with my current girlfriend whose undergraduate GPA has been so bad apparently, that she won't tell anybody . She is both younger and saner than many *overeducated children* I've seen!
JerseyShortie Posted March 24, 2009 Posted March 24, 2009 I agree with the OP. It's a turn off seeing a 30 year old man having a dating range 18- to whatever. I also am turned off by men that can't even date their own age or up to their own age. It's kind of like the are rejecting themselves since they are that age. If that man doesn't want to date someone his own age, why should I want to date someone his age? All these age threads makes me realize that no matter what you do as a woman, we are fighting a loosing battle because men don't really give a crap about us as people apparently and care more about if we are 18 or not anymore. Is there such a thing as real love or only lust when it comes to men? I guess you men win and we women loose. Hope this makes you men feel happy and more like men because it makes me feel pretty hopeless about finding a turly good man that will think I am goregous and sexy despite getting older, as we all do.
chrislovestosurf Posted March 24, 2009 Posted March 24, 2009 dating is one thing, having random sex with, well, nothing wrong with a guy in his 30's banging a 20 year old girl. Props to the single guy in his 30's who can pull it off. But yea, trying to establish a relationship with that same girl is a little odd.
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