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Touche Established Member

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No, the link she posted listed HIS age as 34. With his age, his town, his occupation.

 

Ok, I admit I just skimmed it. Anyway, I guess I misunderstood you.

 

No doubt it's wrong on both their parts here.

 

She's adding insult to injury by linking his site here.

Trimmer Established Member

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She didn't out herself really. You had to go through a little effort to find out what you did and then you chose to publicly reveal what you did. (If you even got it right.)

Fair enough, (and whether I did it right or not is irrelevant.) But my point stands either way: BE CAREFUL ON THE INTERNET, FOLKS. It doesn't matter whether I actually FOUND her, or whether I just say it a hundred times in a hundred different posts, I think the point is worth making publicly: be careful what you post and how it can trace back to your real life, if that is important to you (and maybe it's not, to her, the OP of this thread.)

 

See? This is exactly what I'm talking about. Did the link that she posted reveal her age? Or is that something you dug up? Is it right to post that here if she hasn't? Isn't that an invasion of her privacy?

I know this comment was to another poster, but I'll note that I didn't post and wouldn't have posted anything revealing about her at all - not her age or anything like that. The intentionally cryptic "Seal" comment I made is a calling card so she will understand that I did find her, but nothing that assists anyone in a search for her identity (i.e. that common word did not appear as searchable text anywhere in the area that I observed) - certainly not any more than her former date's blog she linked to, filled with sentences and paragraphs quoted from her own blog, which basically pointed a bright arrow right back to her.

 

And I do think it worth pointing out - as I have done before - that there's a difference between privacy and anonymity. NOTHING you publish on the web is private - not here, not myspace, not a blog, not anything that anyone can get to with "http," and that can be indexed by a search crawler. If you publish it, it's "out there." That's not private.

 

What you can have, if you do publish personal information, is anonymity. That involves concealing your real identity, and guarding that concealment carefully, consistently, and forever. If you screw up, even once, then your real-life persona can be linked to your online postings, and you are no longer anonymous.

 

But don't fool yourself that it was ever "private." That's an important distinction to understand, and people around here often wring their hands over their "privacy being invaded" when what they did was forfeit their "privacy" by publishing personal information on the internet in the first place, then carelessly let their identity (and thus their anonymity) get out of their own control, through their own actions.

 

Who is "she"? Trimmer? I thought he was a guy.

The "she" you are referring to was written by Lucky_One, and although the syntax was a little hard to understand, at first I assumed it referred to you; I took it as agreement with your point. Now, on another reading, maybe L_O thinks I'm a woman, and thinks that I found the right blog... That seems more likely, I suppose, and accounts for my initial confusion. (I'm a dude.)

 

Anyway, how do you know he got it right? The person that stalked me thought THEY were revealing accurate info too. Not the case. Thankfully, people alerted me to the shenanigans and it was reported because who knows how far they were going to go.

In similar fashion, I'm trying to alert the OP to the risk of what she posted - along with others who might be careless about posting potentially dangerous information that they might not realize can be used to compromise their identity and anonymity. That is exactly my point here.

 

Ok, so maybe you found her, maybe not. But if she's not revealing who she is, is it right for others to do so? I mean it's one thing to find it yourself and quite another to POST it here for everyone to see.

I maintain that in this age where 14 year-olds know how to use Google quite efficiently, linking to a blog with direct quotes from one's own blog is effectively revealing who you are. Nonetheless, it was my intention to bring this to her attention, not to punish her by revealing anything damaging. That's exactly why I didn't post anything identifying about her.

 

But I don't have any heartache over sounding the alarm to her and the community, alerting her to what her potential adversaries already know anyway.

Touche Established Member

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Yes, great post Trimmer. I really can't dispute any of it and it's a valuable post.

 

And yep, you're right on about the difference between privacy and anonymity. My anonymity was being threatened so I guess that's why I'm sensitive to this issue at the moment.

 

My point though, again, is that it's one thing for someone to possibly figure out your identity (keeping it to themselves) and quite another to "out" you or to try to out you on a public forum. Wouldn't you agree?

Trimmer Established Member

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Yes, great post Trimmer. I really can't dispute any of it and it's a valuable post.

 

And yep, you're right on about the difference between privacy and anonymity. My anonymity was being threatened so I guess that's why I'm sensitive to this issue at the moment.

 

My point though, again, is that it's one thing for someone to possibly figure out your identity (keeping it to themselves) and quite another to "out" you or to try to out you on a public forum. Wouldn't you agree?

Absolutely and without reservation.

Touche Established Member

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Absolutely and without reservation.

 

That's what I think too. Thanks.

sfsassy Established Member

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No one figured out anything. But it IS on the person taking "guesses" on line. That's stalking behavior...I mean just the fact that phrases were "googled" says a LOT about the person doing this and then having the GALL to post it on line. It's nuts. It took WAY more effort than is admitted to to come up with those wrong guesses even.

 

I'm done with this. It'll take care of itself. I'm no longer concerned with it.

 

I don't consider google, used in this form as a stalking tool. I just googled the two phrases and came up with her blog and profile. People get curious about other people, and i honestly only read the blog entry that the dude had been referring to in his blog. I also think it is different to just look someone up, as opposed to actually talking to them a or/and their friends and family. I might google exes time to time, because I'm curious about their lives, (and they willingly gave me their names, lol.) but I'm not going to use information learned from my goggle search to write, phone, or visit either them or their family and friends. I also just google, nothing else. Here is an example of what I might do. I looked up an ex at Christmas time on google, and he metioned in a blog one of his favorite movies which is one of mine. (and in his public blog he had no info that i would consider private.) Well, I may have found that interesting. (for five minutes, lol.) but I'm not going to use that info to email him to try to create a bond by talking about the movie. My rule of thumb at thiss point is if i don't want my exes to read something, I don't post it. (of course I have no ultra crazy exes.)

JackJack Established Member

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I must google people wrong...I've googled names before..and usually come up with nothing..maybe my friends and family live boring lives and there is nothing to find! :D

Lucky_One Established Member

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Ooooo Oooooo Ooooo!!! I know! I know!

 

Stargazer lived in Pasadena when she was a little girl!

 

Do I win a prize??

 

(Now, all I have to do is find online yearbooks for the gradeschools (public, private and parochial) for a decade ranging from 1970 - 1980!)

Touche Established Member

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I don't consider google, used in this form as a stalking tool. I just googled the two phrases and came up with her blog and profile. People get curious about other people, and i honestly only read the blog entry that the dude had been referring to in his blog. I also think it is different to just look someone up, as opposed to actually talking to them a or/and their friends and family. I might google exes time to time, because I'm curious about their lives, (and they willingly gave me their names, lol.) but I'm not going to use information learned from my goggle search to write, phone, or visit either them or their family and friends. I also just google, nothing else. Here is an example of what I might do. I looked up an ex at Christmas time on google, and he metioned in a blog one of his favorite movies which is one of mine. (and in his public blog he had no info that i would consider private.) Well, I may have found that interesting. (for five minutes, lol.) but I'm not going to use that info to email him to try to create a bond by talking about the movie. My rule of thumb at thiss point is if i don't want my exes to read something, I don't post it. (of course I have no ultra crazy exes.)

 

See I agree with the bolded parts.

 

This is all about intent...malicious intent to be more specific. It's what you do with the info you find that matters...whether it's accurate or not. That's not even the point. This kind of thing should not be encouraged or tolerated.

Star Gazer Established Member

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Ooooo Oooooo Ooooo!!! I know! I know!

 

Stargazer lived in Pasadena when she was a little girl!

 

Do I win a prize??

 

(Now, all I have to do is find online yearbooks for the gradeschools (public, private and parochial) for a decade ranging from 1970 - 1980!)

 

You Googler! You're such a stalker! I cannot believe you did that!! :lmao:

sfsassy Established Member

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I must google people wrong...I've googled names before..and usually come up with nothing..maybe my friends and family live boring lives and there is nothing to find! :D

Well my one ex is VERY opinionated about many, many, many things, so a lot of it is his brillant reviews, lol.:) Others are in the public spectre. My exes didn't have terribly exotic names, but not the most comon in the world either. I have a couple of Irish friends I wouldn't look up, because there would just be too much to go through, lol. (kind of like John Smith, but not that, lol.)

Star Gazer Established Member

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See I agree with the bolded parts.

 

This is all about intent...malicious intent to be more specific. It's what you do with the info you find that matters...whether it's accurate or not. That's not even the point. This kind of thing should not be encouraged or tolerated.

 

Being curious makes a person... malicious? Since when? :confused: The members who pointed it out to ME are probably people you would consider some of the kindest souls here. Really.

 

What IS malicious is posting information that you gained via private means (PMs, emails, phone calls, etc. - i.e., by earning their trust!) in a public forum without that person's permission. I need not remind you that you did (and continue to do) just that here.

 

Those who live in glass houses should not aim for others with big huge boulders.

Lucky_One Established Member

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You Googler! You're such a stalker! I cannot believe you did that!! :lmao:

 

:(:(:(

 

No prize??

 

:(:(:(

Touche Established Member

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Being curious makes a person... malicious? Since when? :confused: The members who pointed it out to ME are probably people you would consider some of the kindest souls here. Really.

 

:laugh: Nice try. It's not about being curious...it's about way more than that. Again, googling for curiosity's sake is one thing but POSTING your findings on a PUBLIC site is another. What's so difficult to understand about that? Oh and I so don't believe that part about your PM's. BS. And you didn't PM me either. That was also BS. The intent was there for all to see.

 

What IS malicious is posting information that you gained via private means (PMs, emails, phone calls, etc. - i.e., by earning their trust!) in a public forum without that person's permission. I need not remind you that you did (and continue to do) just that here.

 

Those who live in glass houses should not aim for others with big huge boulders.

 

Sorry, but I've NEVER ever, posted anything PUBLICLY that someone has told me privately. Never. There you've got it all wrong, just as you get most everything else wrong. Nice try.:)

 

This really is a very simple concept if you'd take the time to think about it and not just spout off nonsense.

JackJack Established Member

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Ok..knock it off!!!

Touche Established Member

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I didn't PM you to warn you??? Oh really? You're a really dishonest person, Touche. And I can prove it.

 

Here's an image shot of my sent-messages:

 

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/2598/touche.png

 

And the second message is me responding to YOU...

 

Ok, something's weird. I swear to GOD that I don't have those messages. I don't. I have you set on ignore and maybe that's why? I don't know. I'll go see. But I NEVER received those messages.

Star Gazer Established Member

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Ok, something's weird. I swear to GOD that I don't have those messages. I don't. I have you set on ignore and maybe that's why? I don't know. I'll go see. But I NEVER received those messages.

 

 

Nope. You cannot PM someone you have on ignore. You PM'd me today, and you know it... it's shown right there in my sent messages as responding to you. Sorry, Touche. But you're not being honest.

Touche Established Member

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Nope. You cannot PM someone you have on ignore. You PM'd me today, and you know it... it's shown right there in my sent messages as responding to you. Sorry, Touche. But you're not being honest.

 

I am NOT lying. I see that my PM went through but I received nothing..not today and not the other day. I just took you off ignore if you want to re-send. I'm telling the truth. Please do re-send if you want.

 

Not sure what it will change but go ahead.

 

I have NO idea why I was just able to PM you but couldn't get a response.

 

I am NOT being dishonest.

Shygirl15 Established Member

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Guys, love you both but I think we are way off-topic here..

Touche Established Member

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Maybe someone can test it out. I don't know how this works. I thought you could still receive messages from someone on ignore but it would just hide the message but show the person's name. But I received nothing.

Touche Established Member

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Guys, love you both but I think we are way off-topic here..

 

I know. Sorry all. This should be conducted in private. I never meant to make this public. I was on-topic until recently.

 

No more from me.;)

Trimmer Established Member

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Wow, this is kinda like walking into a saloon to find all the tables overturned, the mirror behind the bar smashed, and blood everywhere, but otherwise - silence. WTF just happened? Never mind - I'm just backing slowly and carefully back outside...

Lucky_One Established Member

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Maybe someone can test it out. I don't know how this works. I thought you could still receive messages from someone on ignore but it would just hide the message but show the person's name. But I received nothing.

 

Then how did you reply to it??

JackJack Established Member

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Maybe someone can test it out. I don't know how this works. I thought you could still receive messages from someone on ignore but it would just hide the message but show the person's name. But I received nothing.

 

I clicked the link....I saw a PM on March 13 and today the 16th...I couldn't click it to read it though.....it just had your name Touche.

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