All This Talk About Women Aging....

March 25, 2009

I figure middle forties to start a family will be fine. Not optimal but acceptable.

That's why a majority of men already start families before then. 45 is very long in the tooth to be starting a family. I mean, you're dating 3 women and haven't even really established a firm honest commitment to anyone of them. That's not about treating women right. That's about being worried about yourself.

It always saddens me to observe this but it does seem to be true.

I don't really understand what your saddended about. Other then SoSerious, there are more women then not that are happy with who they are and the choices they made as they get older, then not.

I don't think it really even saddens you in any kind of spirit or form. I acutally think this is something you say to attempt put women down even further to play into your own agenda that you want hard to wish is true.

I suspect one major reason for younger women ignoring your input is simply that it's extremely unpleasant to deal with certain ideas.

Is that why you ignore the evidence brought up against why it's not as resourceful to have a baby with an older man either? You sure like to point the finger at women but are never completely honest about natures desent onto older men. The truth is nature isn't telling men to have babies older anymore then it is telling women. Do you know why men slow down as they age? Do you know why men have ED more times when they are older then younger? It's natures way of telling men that they are not in their prime anymore. Yes, an older man can have a baby. So can an older woman. But should they? Lets be realistic here. I think you ignore certain facts and ideas because you find it unpleasant to deal with. I think your isues stem more from wanting to have control over a situation that you have no control over. And at the end of the say, I feel rather sorry for you because of your attitude towards women. You are going to miss out on so much.

In today's world, women get to buck the stereotypes like never before. We have more options then never before.

I honestly believe that a marriage would be more stable in the older model where the man takes the family lead and the woman is a respected and trusted lieutenant. This dynamic seems easier to maintain if the man is a little senior, I personally think 7 to maybe 10 years. The age gap I'm looking at for myself isn't optimal, I'll gladly admit that but sadly it's required if I want to raise a family.

There is no equation for what makes a marriage work. Plenty of older men/younger women relationships that fail. Plenty of same age men and female relationships that work. I actually see way more issues with older men/younger lady relationships then not. From comments from my mother, to another friend I have. Now both say that dating a man closer to yoru own age is best. The point is that there is no equation for what works and doesn't.

I fail to toe the feminist line and I'm the target of multiple shaming and other compliance techniques because of it, but it's OK.

Clv, you do your fair share of shaming. You've done your fair share of attempted shaming towards myself and to women in general. You want women to feel shame for who they are. This isn't about being a feminist. This is about treating women the way you want to be treated. And giving them the same respect you would want. This is about not holding yourself accountable for anything and living in a fantasy world that you can have it all well into old age when that isn't the reality of nature.

I have a girlfriend that married an older man. They are now divorced. Just today she told me that in the beggning it was great. He was full of life. But soon he was hitting the tail end of his 40s and he just wasn't full of the life and energy she was. She took responsiblity for raising their child and he was unable to provide the same. It made her resentful because he did hold her back. Now divorced, she is single and dating a very hot 29 year old guy. And swears she will never date older again.

March 25, 2009

That's why a majority of men already start families before then. 45 is very long in the tooth to be starting a family. I mean, you're dating 3 women and haven't even really established a firm honest commitment to anyone of them. That's not about treating women right. That's about being worried about yourself.

I don't really understand what your saddended about. Other then SoSerious, there are more women then not that are happy with who they are and the choices they made as they get older, then not.

I don't think it really even saddens you in any kind of spirit or form. I acutally think this is something you say to attempt put women down even further to play into your own agenda that you want hard to wish is true.

Is that why you ignore the evidence brought up against why it's not as resourceful to have a baby with an older man either? You sure like to point the finger at women but are never completely honest about natures desent onto older men. The truth is nature isn't telling men to have babies older anymore then it is telling women. Do you know why men slow down as they age? Do you know why men have ED more times when they are older then younger? It's natures way of telling men that they are not in their prime anymore. Yes, an older man can have a baby. So can an older woman. But should they? Lets be realistic here. I think you ignore certain facts and ideas because you find it unpleasant to deal with. I think your isues stem more from wanting to have control over a situation that you have no control over. And at the end of the say, I feel rather sorry for you because of your attitude towards women. You are going to miss out on so much.

In today's world, women get to buck the stereotypes like never before. We have more options then never before.

There is no equation for what makes a marriage work. Plenty of older men/younger women relationships that fail. Plenty of same age men and female relationships that work. I actually see way more issues with older men/younger lady relationships then not. From comments from my mother, to another friend I have. Now both say that dating a man closer to yoru own age is best. The point is that there is no equation for what works and doesn't.

Clv, you do your fair share of shaming. You've done your fair share of attempted shaming towards myself and to women in general. You want women to feel shame for who they are. This isn't about being a feminist. This is about treating women the way you want to be treated. And giving them the same respect you would want. This is about not holding yourself accountable for anything and living in a fantasy world that you can have it all well into old age when that isn't the reality of nature.

I have a girlfriend that married an older man. They are now divorced. Just today she told me that in the beggning it was great. He was full of life. But soon he was hitting the tail end of his 40s and he just wasn't full of the life and energy she was. She took responsiblity for raising their child and he was unable to provide the same. It made her resentful because he did hold her back. Now divorced, she is single and dating a very hot 29 year old guy. And swears she will never date older again.

Again, its your GF's fault for marrying an older guy. What is she oblivious to the fact that people slow down with age? He didn't hold her back at all. She held herself back making a decision she didn't fully consider. Who marries someone older and resents them because they got....well, old? What sense does that make?

March 25, 2009

What is the running start stage for women happens to be the roughest time for a lot of men. There is no excuse for bashing or otherwise disrespecting anyone because of their age, but the dating/relationship prospect struggles faced by older women and young men are really two sides of the same coin.

No. Going by generalities, th nubile 18 year old matures faster and is far more willing to get into a longer relationship with a man in her age group and those men well into their 50's, while the 18 year old man may be less likely to want a committed relationship. However even before the cougar pheonomon, he also had access to older women for short term relationships without the vise of a committed relationship or marriage. Marriage rates for both genders are still in the mid-to late twenties, therefore the disadvantage that may impede a man from 18 to say 23 is only in stasis for a few years--if that, but steadily increases for the man whether he divorces, remains single, or stays married while a Woman's value--in society's eyes enjoys a steady decline no matter what her singleton/partnered status.

March 25, 2009

I'm in my early 50's, all I can truthfully say I look forward to is dying.

I'm at a loss here, I really am. I lurked for quite a while here before posting, so I'm fairly familiar with your story. It seems to me that the death of your marriage also resulted in your "death" as well, because I can't see that what you have is "life". Or maybe you've always been so relentlessly grim. Maybe you have your entire being utterly wrapped up in being in a relationship, and if you can't have one (I imagine the "relentlessly grim" thing doesn't help in that regard), then you see no point in going on.

I don't get it. I wish there was something I could say that would help, but I don't think I have the words. I do suggest counseling ASAP, and I truly do wish you the very best. I'm only a little younger than you, and cannot fatham being so bleak for so long.

I understand this could be interpreted as an "attack". It's not, just an expression of concern in the best way I can word it.

March 25, 2009

Soserious - I know your story well and remember your post from the past that talked about how you gave up on men and on being a woman here is the reference thread in case anyone wants to read it.

http://www.loveshack.org/forums/t163175/

I remember you saying that you were giving up on your life after your divorce and your husband left you for anothe woman. I also remember that your ex did a number on you, he brain washed into thinking you are not worthy of anyone and was extremely damaging to your self esteem in terms of assuring you that he had women lined up before he even left your marriage. He would remind you daily that you would have 0 options and would be doomed after he left you. You were married to a monster basically. I remember your story very well.

Of course you will have the opinions that you do, I believe your

selfesteem was left at an all time low and your ex husband is the one who did this to you and you permitted the abuse and are still perpetuating the remnants of what he did to you, so much so you are feeding into it so that you can absolutely without a shaddow of a doubt live up to HIS expectations. If you believe you are worthless, you will be worthless Soserious. I am so sad for the deep damange this man has done to you.

Personally, I know at least two friends of my parents that divorced and the women went on to get together with other men, both in their 50's. These women don't look like Hollywood aging women, they look like real women and found love again after 50.

I TOTALLY disagree with you. One of them was divorced because her husband got together with a woman half his age. He is 64 now and she is 36 and she is leaving him. Rumour has it she has another guy. Surprise surprise!! While his ex wife (my mom's friend) is very much in love and together with a darling man that takes good care of her and loves her. They make a very cute couple.

Reality is subjective when it comes to this, if you think and are convinced you won't have options, you won't.

March 25, 2009

I'm at a loss here, I really am. I lurked for quite a while here before posting, so I'm fairly familiar with your story. It seems to me that the death of your marriage also resulted in your "death" as well, because I can't see that what you have is "life". Or maybe you've always been so relentlessly grim. Maybe you have your entire being utterly wrapped up in being in a relationship, and if you can't have one (I imagine the "relentlessly grim" thing doesn't help in that regard), then you see no point in going on.

I don't get it. I wish there was something I could say that would help, but I don't think I have the words. I do suggest counseling ASAP, and I truly do wish you the very best. I'm only a little younger than you, and cannot fatham being so bleak for so long.

I understand this could be interpreted as an "attack". It's not, just an expression of concern in the best way I can word it.

Exactly my thoughts GorillaTheatre!! I guess you remember her past threads as well. It makes me so sad for her!! As a woman I'll be damned if I EVER allow any man to do to me what her ex husband did to her.

March 25, 2009

I'm at a loss here, I really am. I lurked for quite a while here before posting, so I'm fairly familiar with your story. It seems to me that the death of your marriage also resulted in your "death" as well, because I can't see that what you have is "life". Or maybe you've always been so relentlessly grim. Maybe you have your entire being utterly wrapped up in being in a relationship, and if you can't have one (I imagine the "relentlessly grim" thing doesn't help in that regard), then you see no point in going on.

I don't get it. I wish there was something I could say that would help, but I don't think I have the words. I do suggest counseling ASAP, and I truly do wish you the very best. I'm only a little younger than you, and cannot fatham being so bleak for so long.

I understand this could be interpreted as an "attack". It's not, just an expression of concern in the best way I can word it.

I'm into dealing with total reality, I dislike sugar coating situations. The prospect of growing more frail with each passing year isn't pleasant, the

prospect of living alone struggling with chronic illness,decline, loss of mobility etc isn't appealing to me.

As far as Mother Nature is concerned I've done my bit, I've passed on my genes several times, reared several children into successful adulthood and lived to see those children have children of their own.I've completed my biological purpose, all that remains from here on out is the prospect of becoming a resource sucking medicare social security burden to younger generations.

March 25, 2009

Exactly my thoughts GorillaTheatre!! I guess you remember her past threads as well. It makes me so sad for her!! As a woman I'll be damned if I EVER allow any man to do to me what her ex husband did to her.

If I was her brother, her ex would spend the rest of his life eating through a tube.

SoSerious, we men are okay, but not worth hinging your entire being on. If you don't mind me asking, what in your life makes you happy? It's a serious question, because I know there's something that does.

March 25, 2009

I'm into dealing with total reality, I dislike sugar coating situations. The prospect of growing more frail with each passing year isn't pleasant, the
prospect of living alone struggling with chronic illness,decline, loss of mobility etc isn't appealing to me.

As far as Mother Nature is concerned I've done my bit, I've passed on my genes several times, reared several children into successful adulthood and lived to see those children have children of their own.I've completed my biological purpose, all that remains from here on out is the prospect of becoming a resource sucking medicare social security burden to younger generations.

Well hell, this applies to all of us once we hit a certain age. But then there's the other side of the coin: just because we've fulfilled the "biological imperative" doesn't mean life stops. There's still an awful lot of joy out there to be found. "Realism" requires looking at the positive as well. So in that respect I don't think you're dealing with total reality at all.

March 25, 2009

If I was her brother, her ex would spend the rest of his life eating through a tube.

SoSerious, we men are okay, but not worth hinging your entire being on. If you don't mind me asking, what in your life makes you happy? It's a serious question, because I know there's something that does.

At this point? I'm working really hard to ensure a fiscal legacy for my children, grandchildren. Aside from that the one thing that makes me happy is the knowledge that for the most part I've conducted my life with dignity.

The problem with aging isn't just about relationships but rather the overall losses

losing physical /mental ability to care for myself is downright horrifying. I am in real life a very private person who doesn't impose on others, such life losses are totally out of synch with how I view myself and how I've conducted my life.

March 25, 2009

If I was her brother, her ex would spend the rest of his life eating through a tube.

SoSerious, we men are okay, but not worth hinging your entire being on. If you don't mind me asking, what in your life makes you happy? It's a serious question, because I know there's something that does.

You are a stand up guy and thank you for injecting this thread with some sanity. You represent a reality of the types of men healthy women admire and long to be with, we know there are more of you out there since we have the pleasure of being with men who think like you. It's just that this forum attracts some men that are opposite to what you are and women who have been abused by these types of men and the cycle keeps going.

If I were a man and Soserious' brother I would break her ex's face too. He is one man that deserves to be met in a dark alley by a bunch of thugs with baseball bats. What he did to Soserious in mental abuse is the equvalent of that.

March 25, 2009

Oh that's fun, condemn someone to being crippled without even slowing down to hear the other side of the story, not to mention any of the other issues with what you're suggesting.

March 25, 2009

At this point? I'm working really hard to ensure a fiscal legacy for my children, grandchildren.

My two cents? Don't spend much time worrying about a financial legacy. The kids and grandkids will make it through on their own. If it was me, I'd travel: cruises, a trip to East Africa (Kilimanjaro's a good amateur climb and the wildlife of the Serengeti), maybe to Iceland (volcanos, glaciers, geysirs, the works). Or maybe you'd prefer someplace more civilized, though I can't imagine why.

Treat yourself to what you enjoy, regularly.

The aging thing? You're in the same boat as the rest of us.

March 25, 2009

You are a stand up guy and thank you for injecting this thread with some sanity. You represent a reality of the types of men healthy women admire and long to be with, we know there are more of you out there since we have the pleasure of being with men who think like you. It's just that this forum attracts some men that are opposite to what you are and women who have been abused by these types of men and the cycle keeps going.

If I were a man and Soserious' brother I would break her ex's face too. He is one man that deserves to be met in a dark alley by a bunch of thugs with baseball bats. What he did to Soserious in mental abuse is the equvalent of that.

And physically hurting my Ex would do what exactly? would it change his view of me or of older women in general ? Would it make me younger and more sexually appealing to men? No,it wouldn't, all such action would do is land the attacker in prison and increase the fiscal alimony load I'm already carrying. Would it have been better,easier if he'd chosen to leave in a different way? Of that I am not sure, I at least have the closure of a clear, easy to understand reason for the demise of my marriage which is a lot more than many tormented souls on the divorce board have.

I have always been a pretty quiet person, a scientist by nature, a keen observer of people. I watch people in any given social situation, observing facial expressions,body language etc, there is much truth to what the men here are saying about the relative social values of older men and women.

March 25, 2009

You are a stand up guy and thank you for injecting this thread with some sanity. You represent a reality of the types of men healthy women admire and long to be with, we know there are more of you out there since we have the pleasure of being with men who think like you. It's just that this forum attracts some men that are opposite to what you are and women who have been abused by these types of men and the cycle keeps going.

If I were a man and Soserious' brother I would break her ex's face too. He is one man that deserves to be met in a dark alley by a bunch of thugs with baseball bats. What he did to Soserious in mental abuse is the equvalent of that.

Thank you pollywag. I certainly appreciate the kind words.

March 25, 2009

My two cents? Don't spend much time worrying about a financial legacy. The kids and grandkids will make it through on their own. If it was me, I'd travel: cruises, a trip to East Africa (Kilimanjaro's a good amateur climb and the wildlife of the Serengeti), maybe to Iceland (volcanos, glaciers, geysirs, the works). Or maybe you'd prefer someplace more civilized, though I can't imagine why.

Treat yourself to what you enjoy, regularly.

The aging thing? You're in the same boat as the rest of us.

I would do the exact same thing, this is the time in your life Soserious that you should be thinking about you. Travelling is an excellent way to fill your soul and heart with love, to feel again. You meet a lot of ineteresting people travelling and you can stop all this poisonous thinking and get your life back on track again. Life is not over until GOD says it is. If you sit around waiting for death to arrive you will have a very long and arduous life, the days don't go by any faster when you simply wait. And age affects all of us the same, men feel it too. So don't kid yourself in that respect.

March 25, 2009

HEY GUYS....FACT IS MOST MEN ARE MARRYING IN THEIR MID TO LATER 20S AND THEY ARE MARRYING WOMEN IN THEIR MID TO LATER 20s. THEY ARE MARRYING THEIR HIGHSCHOOL AND COLLEGE SWEETHEARTS, OR SWEETHEARTS THEY MET ON THE JOB, THROUGH THEIR SAME AGE-FRIENDS, ETC.

SO IF YOU ARE A GUY IN THEIR MID 30S AND UP....THE DATING POOL IS AUTOMATICALLY LOWER FOR YOU BECAUSE THE YOUNGER WOMEN YOU CRAVE HAVE BEEN SNAPPED UP BY MEN THEIR OWN AGE.

YOU CAN WAIT AROUND FOR THE INEVITABLE DIVORCES TO EVENTUALLY POP UP, BUT THEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT MARRYING WOMEN IN THEIR 30'S (NOT "NUBILE" ACCORDING TO clv) AND MANY OF THEM HAVE CHILDREN FROM THEIR FIRST MARRIAGE. (AGAIN, NOT MARRIAGE MATERIAL, ACCORDING TO CLV). ALSO, THESE WOMEN HAVE HAD A SERIOUS RELATIONSHIP/MARRIAGE WITH MEN IN THEIR OWN AGE RANGE....YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE VERY RICH AS A MAN IN YOUR LATE 30IES IN ORDER TO ATTRACT THESE WOMEN, AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ACCEPT THEIR 'BAGGAGE.' BECAUSE, BELIEVE ME, THESE WOMEN IN THEIR 20'S YOU SO DESIRE ARE OUT MARRYING THEIR SAME-AGE COUNTERPARTS RIGHT NOW.

AS CLV POINTED OUT....ONLY 10% OF MARRIAGES CONSIST OF MEN A DECADE OR MORE OLDER THAN THEIR WIVES.....SO THIS STATISTIC DOESN'T ACCOUNT FOR THE FACT THAT MANY OF THESE WOMEN AND MEN ALREADY HAVE CHILDREN FROM PREVIOUS MARRIAGES/RELATIONSHIPS....

MEN, AS CLV HAS ALREADY POINTED OUT....YOU'VE GOT A TEN PERCENT CHANCE OF MARRYING THESE "NUBILE" WOMEN IN THEIR 20'S WHEN YOU IDYLLICALLY AIM TO GET MARRIED IN YOUR MID TO LATE 30'S AND UP.

GOOD LUCK WITH THE 10% ODDS. I WOULDN'T WANT THOSE ODDS IF THE DOCTOR TOLD ME I HAD THAT MUCH OF A PERCENT AT LIVING FOR ANOTHER 10 YEARS.

NOW LET'S END THIS SILLY THREAD ONCE AND FOR ALL.

THE ODDS ARE NOT WITH YOU, MEN, BUT FOR ODDS TO BE ON YOUR SIDE, YOU NEED TO GET OFF THIS BOARD AND GO FIND THOSE 'NUBILE' WOMEN A DECADE OR MORE YOUNGER IN ORDER TO BEAT THE ODDS. SITTING IN FRONT OF THE COMPUTER ISN'T GOING TO HELP YOUR ODDS, NOW GO TO IT.

March 25, 2009

And physically hurting my Ex would do what exactly? would it change his view of me or of older women in general ? Would it make me younger and more sexually appealing to men? No,it wouldn't, all such action would do is land the attacker in prison

I have an old-fashioned belief that some people have that sort of thing coming to them. And if a man treated a woman I hold dear the way I understand your ex treated you, I'm more than willing to be an agent of karma.

I have always been a pretty quiet person, a scientist by nature, a keen observer of people. I watch people in any given social situation, observing facial expressions,body language etc, there is much truth to what the men here are saying about the relative social values of older men and women.

Even assuming your perceptions are correct, our value as people is the value we place on ourselves, not that placed by others. There are only a handful of people whose opinions regarding my value are worthy of any consideration at all. The same is, or should be, true in your case.

March 25, 2009

And physically hurting my Ex would do what exactly? would it change his view of me or of older women in general ? Would it make me younger and more sexually appealing to men? No,it wouldn't, all such action would do is land the attacker in prison and increase the fiscal alimony load I'm already carrying. Would it have been better,easier if he'd chosen to leave in a different way? Of that I am not sure, I at least have the closure of a clear, easy to understand reason for the demise of my marriage which is a lot more than many tormented souls on the divorce board have.

I have always been a pretty quiet person, a scientist by nature, a keen observer of people. I watch people in any given social situation, observing facial expressions,body language etc, there is much truth to what the men here are saying about the relative social values of older men and women.

You are right it wouldn't solve a thing, it is just wishful thinking that if one of those thugs put him in his place the humility he's been lacking in dealing with you and the divorce would be beaten back into him. But I am not worried since life has a funny way of arranging so that exactly that happens.

Without even knowing you or your ex I can say I bet that his abuse didn't stop at you, I am certain his abuse extended to his/your children, even your grandchildrend must have seen/felt it as well. Abuse is not about age or sexual desirability or lack there of after a certain age, it is about something intrinsically wrong with the make-up of an individual. Your husband was very broken inside and you were the perfect outlet for his dementia, abuse is parasitic and symbiotic and this has nothing to do with your age as a woman. The sooner you can see that and understand that the less power you will give this man.

He is gone and you still give him the power to continue to abuse you mentally even when he is out of your life. You have no love left for yourself and it breaks my heart to see that.

March 25, 2009

He is gone and you still give him the power to continue to abuse you mentally even when he is out of your life. You have no love left for yourself and it breaks my heart to see that.

This eloquently distills everything I've been trying to say. Don't let him have ANY kind of power over your feelings. It may be hard, but it is your choice.

March 25, 2009

Everyone ages. Its slow for some and fast for others; big whoop. Why care what someone who has a personality you cannot stand thinks about your gender's aging tendencies? Its not like you would put their approval to use if you had it! If they liked the way you looked at any age, you would just find yourself wishing they'd go away and leave you alone.

Me personally.....I can't wait to be an old lady! I'll finally get to find out what its like to be able to leave my house and be treated as a person and not an object. Plus, I get to show jerks what its like to have someone they have absolutely zero attraction to annoy the hell out of them. I'm going to get a membership to a gym and try to chat them up when all they want to do is get their workout in. I'm going to go to clubs an follow them around offering free drinks in exchange for their phone number despite the fact that they've told me they're not available or looking to meet anyone right now. I'm going to wolf whistle at them in the grocery store whenever they bend over and hell yeah! I DO need help getting my groceries to my car! If they get upset, I will be quick to point out to them how they know whats up because they dressed like that and glanced my way for a micro-second!

It should still be just as easy to get a date even when I'm a dried up crone. At least I'll pretend that's the case whenever it is pointed out to me that some fella is obviously out of my dating pool. What hot 20something guy isn't just waiting for g-ma to take out her teeth and spend all my Social Security check?

March 25, 2009

Even assuming your perceptions are correct, our value as people is the value we place on ourselves, not that placed by others. There are only a handful of people whose opinions regarding my value are worthy of any consideration at all. The same is, or should be, true in your case.

But she wants to be visible. The only way that's left for her to be visible is to keep posting the textual equivalent of

.

I only hope I've got something more to offer when I hit 55. Even if it's nothing sexual.

March 25, 2009

I would do the exact same thing, this is the time in your life Soserious that you should be thinking about you. Travelling is an excellent way to fill your soul and heart with love, to feel again. You meet a lot of ineteresting people travelling and you can stop all this poisonous thinking and get your life back on track again. Life is not over until GOD says it is. If you sit around waiting for death to arrive you will have a very long and arduous life, the days don't go by any faster when you simply wait. And age affects all of us the same, men feel it too. So don't kid yourself in that respect.

I am not all religious and am a firm believer in the idea that while we cannot choose when or if we are born we most certainly have the right to decide

when we die. I'm an ardent supporter of Death with dignity and would not chose to continue living to the stage where I become physically/mentally unable to care for myself and become a burden on others. I'll plug the plug long before that point.

March 25, 2009

My sister's mother in law is very beautiful in her early 60's, and still practicing as a lawyer! She is probably making more $ in a year (working parttime...she has cut her hours to travel with her husband, also a practicing lawyer, working part time yet bringing in, can you say...$500,000 a year) than clv or boxing will ever hope to make in 5 years!

Guess what???

She is the same age as her husband!!!!! It is her second marriage (divorced 20 years ago.) Now this guy makes enough he could have attracted one of them young, "nubile" women in their 30s...he went for the brainy coworker lawyer at work his same age!!!!

Sorry, guys!

The odds just aren't with you.

March 25, 2009

But she wants to be visible. The only way that's left for her to be visible is to keep posting the textual equivalent of
.

I only hope I've got something more to offer when I hit 55. Even if it's nothing sexual.

You and I are on the exact same wavelength. I was thinking the exact same thing, but didn't know how to word it so that is would not come off offensive. That video beats all words. Well done.

She has been having a pitty party for quite some time now. However, it is easier to see this from the outside and from the perspective of a mind that is attached to a body that has not had the soul beaten out of it by an abusive man.

All things considered, our perceptions are indeed shaped by our experiences.

It's interesting to see that the only woman that can side with the ridiculous claims put forth by some of the men in this thread, also happens to be a woman who is very emotionally damaged. Makes you think doesn't it?

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