boxing123 Posted March 15, 2009 Posted March 15, 2009 I do not mean this as a spin off from another thread, as I personally see this a lot in real life, but the other thread made me think of this. Guys, if you are dating a "Career" woman, I think there is a large chance she is in love with her male superiors. Why? Women love powerful men.It is like a drug for them. And women love competition. If a couple women in a company like a man, guess what... More and more of them will as well. It catches on like a wildfire. It becomes some obsession with the other women as to whom can land him. No matter whom you are, if you are not her superior, chances are she is fantasizing about him. Her priorities would be work, trying to land the boss, then you as a back up plan. I dated a woman who dated the CEO of her company in the past. He was married. Guess what. She found out he was sleeping with at least 9 (yes 9) other women at the company simultaneously, all of which had boyfriends, husbands, etc. All very beautiful by the way as well, which is why they were hired for these high level sales jobs. The solution? Avoid career women or be the boss.
Bells Posted March 15, 2009 Posted March 15, 2009 I do not mean this as a spin off from another thread, as I personally see this a lot in real life, but the other thread made me think of this. Guys, if you are dating a "Career" woman, I think there is a large chance she is in love with her male superiors. Why? Women love powerful men.It is like a drug for them. And women love competition. If a couple women in a company like a man, guess what... More and more of them will as well. It catches on like a wildfire. It becomes some obsession with the other women as to whom can land him. No matter whom you are, if you are not her superior, chances are she is fantasizing about him. Her priorities would be work, trying to land the boss, then you as a back up plan. I dated a woman who dated the CEO of her company in the past. He was married. Guess what. She found out he was sleeping with at least 9 (yes 9) other women at the company simultaneously, all of which had boyfriends, husbands, etc. All very beautiful by the way as well, which is why they were hired for these high level sales jobs. The solution? Avoid career women or be the boss. Yea, it is kind of coincidental I posted about the lady I'm talking about and her involvement in her business, but she's her OWN boss. Is that different?
Author boxing123 Posted March 15, 2009 Author Posted March 15, 2009 It wasn't related to your thread, but if she is her own boss, that sounds good to me. If she has time for you..
BlueEyedGirl Posted March 15, 2009 Posted March 15, 2009 Boxing, For what it's worth I have never had crushes on any of my other bosses. I have found them old and disgusting, power or no power. This boss is young (for a boss), cute and fun - he has a very informal way of relating to his staff. He makes you feel like he is your best friend when in fact this is his way of getting as much work out of you as possible. I would probably have a crush on him if I met him under other circumstances.
JerseyShortie Posted March 15, 2009 Posted March 15, 2009 You know, for once it would be nice to see a man say something nice about women around here.
carhill Posted March 15, 2009 Posted March 15, 2009 Do absolutes and career women go together? IMO, the reason the negatives are noticed is because of the drama they imbue. Humans, male and female, love drama. I have no issues (and had none when single) asking out a professional woman, even though I'm just a blue collar working stiff. Dated a few over the years. Nothing lasting, except with my wife. No qualms if I'm single again. Their ambition doesn't scare me
JerseyShortie Posted March 15, 2009 Posted March 15, 2009 I think a blue collar guy can be very attractive to a working woman because of the different side he brings to the table.
Kamille Posted March 15, 2009 Posted March 15, 2009 You know, for once it would be nice to see a man say something nice about women around here. Oh there are men here who have nice things to say about women. I find the trick is to not engage too much with the ones who feel their masculinity is threatened by the division of labout in the post-industrial economy. The world they know is crumbling and they feel the only way to maintain their position in the new scenario is to revert to old stereotypes. I'm a career woman and I'm not only attracted to my bosses . I'm attracted to lots of different kinds of men. In fact, I like to avoid being attracted to bosses - I like my relationships to have a healthy balance of power.
clv0116 Posted March 15, 2009 Posted March 15, 2009 It's an over generalization to say that a professional woman will go for her boss just as much as it's an over generalization to say a stay at home mom will jump the mailman. Some women (and men) are gonna display a lack of self control, some are not.
Kamille Posted March 15, 2009 Posted March 15, 2009 You know, now that I think about it... The main reason why I don't go for bosses... It would jeopardize my career. I want my bosses, male and female, to respect me and this means prioritizing the professional relationship. Guess that makes me a real career woman.
Cherished Posted March 15, 2009 Posted March 15, 2009 I guess I don't know what you mean by a "career" woman. Since I have been divorced for a couple years, am single and dating, I have to have a job to pay the bills. I want to live comfortably (travel occasionally, decent car, clothes, nice condo) and in order to have those basics I need to have a career. Sorry, a clerk's job is going to have me living in a crappy apartment and visiting the crappy laundry mat once a week, and having a car that breaks down constantly, and not able to put ANYTHING into retirement and not being able to really live comfortably and happily. I am college-educated, and you pretty much have to be in order to have a "career" these days. I have a Masters, because in the field I am in, it is required in this state. I make $62,000 a year. In the city I live in, that is a great salary. I am able to put a good chunk of $ into savings and retirement each month. I LOVE my job but I also love having vacations and time off - I don't live to work. Do I fit the career woman type, simply because I want to live a comfortable life and my career allows me to do so?
Author boxing123 Posted March 15, 2009 Author Posted March 15, 2009 HMMM... It is a tough question. I sincerely wonder how many women are lusting after their bosses, simply because they are bosses. As for the ex of mine, I find it hard to believe that companies situation was so unique.. The boss whom everyone knew was married, was sleeping with at least 10 different women at the company. All of which had some sort of regular relationship outside of sleeping with the boss. It was a legal software division, and all the women had either a master's or J.D. I actually read the details on some site called "f'ed up company.com or something like that. Then you read threads here in which women are completely OBSESSED about their married bosses. Or women sleeping with coworkers.. I thought work was for work, not a sex hook up place.
carhill Posted March 15, 2009 Posted March 15, 2009 Do I fit the career woman type, simply because I want to live a comfortable life and my career allows me to do so? I'm pretty sure most men would categorize "career woman" as one who prioritizes her career over her interpersonal relationships. IOW, the relationship always takes a back seat. Since you state that you "don't live to work", I would opine that moniker does not apply to you. If you had stated more assertively that you "work to live", my opinion of that perception would be stronger You have certain lifestyle expectations and desires and strive to meet or exceed them in order to feel "comfortable". That's healthy. Any compatible man would appreciate and respect that.
Sam Spade Posted March 15, 2009 Posted March 15, 2009 You know, for once it would be nice to see a man say something nice about women around here. Impossible! They're all quilty until proven innocent !
Sam Spade Posted March 15, 2009 Posted March 15, 2009 I guess I don't know what you mean by a "career" woman. Since I have been divorced for a couple years, am single and dating, I have to have a job to pay the bills. I want to live comfortably (travel occasionally, decent car, clothes, nice condo) and in order to have those basics I need to have a career. Sorry, a clerk's job is going to have me living in a crappy apartment and visiting the crappy laundry mat once a week, and having a car that breaks down constantly, and not able to put ANYTHING into retirement and not being able to really live comfortably and happily. I am college-educated, and you pretty much have to be in order to have a "career" these days. I have a Masters, because in the field I am in, it is required in this state. I make $62,000 a year. In the city I live in, that is a great salary. I am able to put a good chunk of $ into savings and retirement each month. I LOVE my job but I also love having vacations and time off - I don't live to work. Do I fit the career woman type, simply because I want to live a comfortable life and my career allows me to do so? I don't think so. All women should work, and the mere act of working doesn't turn you into a "career woman". I think it mostly refers to the stereotype of high powered lawyer/CEO types, or for the ones stuck into climbing the stereotypical 'corporate ladder'. They are the pain in the azz, not just any woman who has a profession... As a guy, I would not get involved with a woman that does not have a job and a profession. But it needs to be a 5 to 9 job with no drama, comfortable middle class salary, but that's all. Actually, I have no problem with the idea of my wife not working at all, but this is a risk that I will not take. If I lived in a country that did not allow divorvces - I would happily take it.
chrislovestosurf Posted March 15, 2009 Posted March 15, 2009 I agree with the OP only to a certain extent. What it really boils down to is charisma, looks etc. I really dont think a superior is going to overshadow other guys unless he also has a very charismatic personality, good body, and overal good looks. But yes, the power element would win the lady over the next guy when those other things are in place.
Cherished Posted March 15, 2009 Posted March 15, 2009 Hey Boxing, then no women should date a "career" man, right? It takes two to tango. Apparently all doctors, lawyers, accountants, CEOs, engineers, teachers, etc. are all just going at it in the breakroom on company time, married or not. We're all corrupt and effing anything at work that walks.
chrislovestosurf Posted March 15, 2009 Posted March 15, 2009 Not to mention that many women as well as men do not like their superior for that same reason, power. How many of you hear stories about how much they hate their boss? C'mon. Its probably the #1 topic that comes up during dinner conversations.
Author boxing123 Posted March 15, 2009 Author Posted March 15, 2009 Women are obsessed with the men who cheat the most, lol. For them cheating is a perfectly acceptable trade off for money. It is called looking the other way. Pilot's, Ceo's, doctors, women love them. And they cheat far more often just because they have the opportunity. I also dated a nurse who said she would never date a doctor again.. In hospitals doctors are like gods, and the young pretty nurses drop their panties for them the first chance they get.
Cherished Posted March 15, 2009 Posted March 15, 2009 Well if this is true, it's career men the career women are cheating with, so men AND women should not date people with careers is what you're saying, Boxing. Apparently the people without careers at all are the only people with souls, according to you. So go out and date a woman with no career, dude, problem solved.
Author boxing123 Posted March 15, 2009 Author Posted March 15, 2009 Well, it is a choice men have.. My thread was not "Do not date a career man". You can start that one if you like. And not ALL careers.. I see it more or less in the business/corporate world.
carhill Posted March 15, 2009 Posted March 15, 2009 Women are obsessed with the men who cheat the most, lol. For them cheating is a perfectly acceptable trade off for money. It is called looking the other way. Don't know the connection with career women, but, in general, this behavior is facilitated by the obsessed person concurrently stringing along a number of men who are attracted to her. This behavior keeps her in balance, otherwise the energy she's expending on her obsession would deplete her. In a work environment, it's quite easy for a woman to establish this ladder with co-workers and it can appear completely above board and professional. It really, in nearly all cases, boils down to the man desiring sex more than the woman willing to be a partner. Money/power can be a mitigating factor, depending on the woman's desire of it/them. The person who cares the least has the most control.
Cherished Posted March 15, 2009 Posted March 15, 2009 Well, it is a choice men have.. My thread was not "Do not date a career man". You can start that one if you like. And not ALL careers.. I see it more or less in the business/corporate world. Why would ANY women want to date a guy who cheats, as you say is all that is going on in the career world? LOL I am curious what is your job in the "corporate world" and how much do you make? Are you one of these impressive "career" men who can get the women right and left?
Author boxing123 Posted March 15, 2009 Author Posted March 15, 2009 Why would ANY women want to date a guy who cheats, as you say is all that is going on in the career world? LOL I am curious what is your job in the "corporate world" and how much do you make? Are you one of these impressive "career" men who can get the women right and left? Ask the women. I am not a woman. Why do thousands of women line up and beg to blow a rock star? I do not know either. If I had to answer I would say because women love to be in the spot light, like money, and want to beat out other women.
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