d.stevens Posted October 9, 2003 Posted October 9, 2003 What are your thoughts here? will you date a smoker?
iceprincess Posted October 9, 2003 Posted October 9, 2003 NO. Smoking infiltrates everything. It gets into your clothes, your furniture, your hair, your breath (ewww) and it makes your teeth yellow.
cindy0039 Posted October 9, 2003 Posted October 9, 2003 Nope - I'd never date a smoker. Everything about it is gross to me. Not to mention, I have allergies and I'd be sick all the time if I were exposed to it.
Gaz Posted October 9, 2003 Posted October 9, 2003 Not a chance. Considering how much I enjoy kissing, I'd be sick half the time
HokeyReligions Posted October 9, 2003 Posted October 9, 2003 doesn't bother me. I should say - it never bothered me when I was dating Most of the guys I dated smoked - so did I. My husband never smoked but I was a smoker when we met. I was considerate of him, and it didn't bother him.
Author d.stevens Posted October 9, 2003 Author Posted October 9, 2003 It turns me off in a big way. I would never date one either... I read somewhere that a huge percentage on younger females under 21 are smoking now.
Jamie31 Posted October 9, 2003 Posted October 9, 2003 Well, I smoke so that has never been an issue with me. My hubby wasn't a smoker when we first met - never smoked a day in his life, in fact. But he didn't mind that I did. I don't see what the big deal is, really. We don't smoke in our house and our clothes don't smell like smoke. I know it isn't healthy, but we do a lot of things that aren't healthy in this lifetime. I just can't drink without smoking too. But I know non-smokers are totally against smoking and smokers, so i won't debate about it.....just telling my opinion!
moimeme Posted October 9, 2003 Posted October 9, 2003 know non-smokers are totally against smoking and smokers Mother: lifelong smoker. Died of breast cancer. Her roomate: 37-year old woman dying of lung cancer. Never smoked a day in her life, but her husband did. He couldn't figure out how she got it. She'd beg them to stop treating her. Finally died. Lady across the hall: on her deathbed ,as she was dying of lung cancer, she was asking for a cigarette. Father: lifelong smoker. Lifelong bronchitis. COPD for the last 25 years of his life. Best friend's parents: Mother: lifelong smoker. COPD for the last 10 years of her life. Died long before her time after several years stuck at home on oxygen. Father: alcoholic. Brain aneurysm didn't kill him but lung cancer did. Me: presence of smoke triggers bad coughing fits. If there's too much smoke, throat says 'forget this' and refuses to let air in. It's not just an 'opinion'. There are plenty of health reasons. Thank God BC has the lowest percentage of smokers in Canada and I think in North America.
cindy0039 Posted October 9, 2003 Posted October 9, 2003 Anyone who smokes and claims their clothes, hair and breath do not smell like smoke are deluding themselves. And it doesn't matter whether you smoke inside the house or not. My mom's a smoker (she smokes outside on the porch) and I can smell her coming 10 feet away. Also, her dog even smells of smoke because he accompanies her outside and sits with her. We're keeping her dog right now while she's out of town and later that night after they left my son commented that Teddy smelled like smoke. Poor doggie. And I'm not opposed to smokers at all. I say if they want to ruin their own health that's their business. I just choose not to be around them. What I AM opposed to is smokers who think they have a right to expose others to their habit. But things have gotten so much better as far as not allowing smoking in public places. So I hardly have to deal with it at all anymore - yea!
Lurker Posted October 9, 2003 Posted October 9, 2003 So I take it that you would not date a smoker. Originally posted by moimeme Mother: lifelong smoker. Died of breast cancer. Mother: Now 80 y/o. Been smoking since she was 14. Her choice - she enjoys it. Her roomate: 37-year old woman dying of lung cancer. Never smoked a day in her life, but her husband did. He couldn't figure out how she got it. She'd beg them to stop treating her. Finally died. Her best friends, also life-long smokers - died of other age-related diseases. One cirossis of liver and she never drank. One had cancer. She never smoked and seldom exposed to smoke. Doctors said not all cancers are caused or worsened by smoking. I know several people with breast cancer who never smoked in their life and were not overly exposed to smoking. Lady across the hall: on her deathbed ,as she was dying of lung cancer, she was asking for a cigarette. Hope someone gave her one! Father: lifelong smoker. Lifelong bronchitis. COPD for the last 25 years of his life. Father: Arthritis for the last 30 years of his life. Constant pain and inability to do things for himself. Best friend's parents: Mother: lifelong smoker. COPD for the last 10 years of her life. Died long before her time after several years stuck at home on oxygen. Father: alcoholic. Brain aneurysm didn't kill him but lung cancer did. How do you determine that she died before her time? Who determines "her time" ? As for the father - would he have continued to live with the brain aneurysm? Wouldn't that have killed him too? We all have to die of something! Whether it's a disease or accident or just worn down by time, we all die of something! Me: presence of smoke triggers bad coughing fits. If there's too much smoke, throat says 'forget this' and refuses to let air in. I'm sorry - but at least there are designated smoking areas now so you don't have to be inundated with it every day. My parents told me when it was common place for everyone at work to be smoking - dozens of desks in an office and an ashtray at each one. If you didn't smoke you were doomed! It's not just an 'opinion'. There are plenty of health reasons. Thank God BC has the lowest percentage of smokers in Canada and I think in North America. Your post has nothing whatsoever to do with Jaime31s opinion or with d.stevens original post. Did you mean to sound so condescending, or to attack?
cindy0039 Posted October 9, 2003 Posted October 9, 2003 Oh wow, it's the infamous "Lurker" again. So tell us, Lurker, what is your response to the original poster's question? Would you date a smoker? And I for one didn't see an "attack" anywhere in this thread.
HokeyReligions Posted October 9, 2003 Posted October 9, 2003 IF I HAD MY LIFE TO LIVE OVER - by Erma Bombeck (written after she found out she was dying from cancer). I would have gone to bed when I was sick instead of pretending the earth would go into a holding pattern if I weren't there for the day. I would have burned the pink candle sculpted like a rose before it melted in storage. I would have talked less and listened more. I would have invited friends over to dinner even if the carpet was stained, or the sofa faded. I would have eaten the popcorn in the 'good' living room and worried much less about the dirt when someone wanted to light a fire in the fireplace. I would have taken the time to listen to my grandfather ramble about his youth. I would have shared more of the responsibility carried by my husband. I would never have insisted the car windows be rolled up on a summer day because my hair had just been teased and sprayed. I would have sat on the lawn with my grass stains. I would have cried and laughed less while watching television and more while watching life. I would never have bought anything just because it was practical, wouldn't show soil, or was guaranteed to last a lifetime. Instead of wishing away nine months of pregnancy, I'd have cherished every moment and realized that the wonderment growing inside me was the only chance in life to assist God in a miracle. When my kids kissed me impetuously, I would never have said, "Later. Now go get washed up for dinner." There would have been more "I love you's." More "I'm sorry's." But mostly, given another shot at life, I would seize every minute...look at it and really see it .. live it .and never give it back. Stop sweating the small stuff. Don't worry about who doesn't like you, who has more, or who's doing what. Instead, let's cherish the relationships we have with those who do love us. Let's think about what God HAS blessed us with. And what we are doing each day to promote ourselves mentally, physically, emotionally. I hope you all have a blessed day.
jenny Posted October 9, 2003 Posted October 9, 2003 mmm - Lurker - what exactly is the issue here? i think merry is giving relevant testimony to the pains that acompany getting involved with smokers? proving that people die of other diseases does not disprove that people die from smoking...
Clancy Posted October 9, 2003 Posted October 9, 2003 I once heard of a plan to eliminate cigarette smoking. Everyone now over the age of 16 and who wishes to smoke gets a prescription for cigarettes. Cigarettes can only be obtained from a pharmacist. January 1st, 2004 no new prescriptions are given so no new smokers are sanctioned. Eventually the smokers die off and the habit is eliminated. This of course would take a long time but other measures to discourage smoking (high taxes, public bans, education, etc.) could continue. Sure, there would be a black market but how lucrative it would be is debateable since the cigarettes would still be sold legally much like alcohol is and bootlegging of alcohol still goes on although on a trivial scale.
moimeme Posted October 9, 2003 Posted October 9, 2003 Your post has nothing whatsoever to do with Jaime31s opinion or with d.stevens original post. Did you mean to sound so condescending, or to attack? Ah. My dear friend Lurker. The post was in response to the statement that 'non-smokers are totally against smokers' as though it is a prejudice. Those are a few, but not all, my reasons for being against smoking. If you choose to construe them as 'attack' or 'condescension', feel free, though in so doing you infer something I did not imply. Happens a lot.
moimeme Posted October 9, 2003 Posted October 9, 2003 Besides, I like to think that I've saved lives; two men quit smoking in order to have relationships with me
Jamie31 Posted October 9, 2003 Posted October 9, 2003 Everyone has their reasons for not liking certain things. Some people never drink because a loved one was an alcoholic. Some people never drive at night because their loved one died in a car crash. Some people never walk alone to their car at Wal-Mart because someone they know got mugged last year.....etc. Everyone has their reasons. And that is totally ok. To each his own. If I am in the car with a non-smoker..unless I know it is TOTALLY ok with them...I don't smoke. Or in the house, or wherever. I try to respect non-smokers because I used to hate cigarette smoke and I know how they feel. Besides, I am not a chain-smoker or anything....I don't HAVE to have one. And I can assure you that my clothes and house does NOT smell like smoke...if it did, my grandmother would sure let me know...she doesn't even know I smoke and if she EVER smelled it on me, she would be the first to say something....that's the main reason I know. And my kitty doesn't smell like smoke either...she smells good!
cindy0039 Posted October 9, 2003 Posted October 9, 2003 Okay, if you say so. Whatever you want to believe to make yourself feel better. And some people just plain don't do things that are PROVEN to be bad for your health and that of others around you. My personal pet peeve, and something that really irks me, is people who smoke around their kids. I say once you get pregnant those cigarettes need to go out the window once and for all. But that's just my opinion. And not because a loved one has died or anything else. It's just good ole common sense.
Jamie31 Posted October 9, 2003 Posted October 9, 2003 Well, Like I said before, I am not going to turn this into a debate, because...well....it's stupid. I just know that if my grandmother ever smelled smoke on me, she would tell me. She has never had a problem telling me what she thinks. But that's one thing me and my husband both agreed on. The minute I find out I am pregnant, no more cigarettes. I can't stand people smoking around thier kids and I really get ill when I see a pregnant woman smoking. I mean, if a person wants to smoke, that's their business. But when you put children's health and especially unborn babies' health in jeopardy, that's just stupid and selfish. I can't stand that. I don't care what happens, when I get pregnant, I am NOT smoking again. I can't say that I will never smoke again after tha baby is born - I might, but it will not be around my kids.
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