mr.dream merchant Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 You know GuitarDude is right. You can sit here and tell us until your face turns blue that is the thought that counts but if that were the case you wouldn't mind at all if he never spent money on you only took you to do thoughtful and sweet things. Get off of it, its blocking the oxygen to your brain.
949GuitarDude Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 I assume you are single? So you're saying that you wouldn't be with someone who doesn't spend money on you.
wierdmunky Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 Is it any wonder why so many people are in such financial woes...or California for that matter. That much on a woman when he has no car is stupid. He's a tool. Or she's super hot. Or after calculating - medium hot. $50 a month in Victoria secret for her is like investing with 400% return... I have no problem spending half. . I spent a lot of money over the holidays for my bf, which, come to think of it, could definitely use the money now..
949GuitarDude Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 Why would you say that? Please elaborate your logic; I'm actually quite curious lol Well, you look hot in your pic(assuming that's you). I would assume that you'd only have sex with hot guys, and a hot guy would likely not spend that kind of money.
mr.dream merchant Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 Most women today are living in the past or so it seems. The only reason why it was so widely accepted for a man to pay everything for his woman because back then women didn't have equal rights, jobs, or anything for that matter. Most of them didn't have jobs, they were stay at home mothers. Now that you have a job and equal rights its time you meet your man you "love" so much halfway. Loving him based on how much he spends on you is stupid and you will not last. Thats like me not loving my GF as much because she doesn't **** me whenever I'm horny which is alot.
tincanman99 Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 I think women should pay their own way after you have been out a handful of times. The reason I say this is I have been out with my share of dinner whores that are there for just the meal. The last semi-relationship I was seeing a coworker for about a month and a half. On our last date (though I didnt know that at the time) I dropped $375 between dinner, a concert, taxi and drinks. Granted this is NYC. At dinner she picked the most expensive entre off the specials menu, sucked down a few cocktails and desert. I was not trying to impress her but just wanted to have a good time. Do you know what happened after that - she disappeared. Literally. I contacted her a few times afterwards to no avail. The bottom line is if you pay endlessly you are being played for a sucker. The one I mentioned above made a bit more than me and she was perfectly content to let me pay for everything.
Dirkus Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 For my bf's birthday I got him a Spawn comic book sculpture. For Xmas I got him a LEGO set. What did you get him for Valentines Day a tricycle?
prettybaby Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 So you're saying that you wouldn't be with someone who doesn't spend money on you. Well, you look hot in your pic(assuming that's you). I would assume that you'd only have sex with hot guys, and a hot guy would likely not spend that kind of money. That makes no sense. I was only referring to your bitterness about women; which makes me think you're likely single. I actually do keep count of how much he spends on me; which is why I was able to give a rough estimate. I have no idea whether he does keep track of it all; so I try to keep things balanced by paying my share, even though he sometimes still won't let me. Some men are just old school like that, it has nothing to do with desperation or looks. A lot of women do genuinely appreciate it and give a lot back in return. If the guy won't let them at the beginning stages of the relationship, then the women definitely make up for it further down the road. That's what I do anyway, and I have a few girl friends who are the same. So I don't think it's right for you to generalize like that. I think it only shows you have personally dated unappreciative women; which brings us to the question of how you select the women you go out with.
949GuitarDude Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 That makes no sense. I was only referring to your bitterness about women; which makes me think you're likely single. I actually do keep count of how much he spends on me; which is why I was able to give a rough estimate. I have no idea whether he does keep track of it all; so I try to keep things balanced by paying my share, even though he sometimes still won't let me. Some men are just old school like that, it has nothing to do with desperation or looks. A lot of women do genuinely appreciate it and give a lot back in return. If the guy won't let them at the beginning stages of the relationship, then the women definitely make up for it further down the road. That's what I do anyway, and I have a few girl friends who are the same. So I don't think it's right for you to generalize like that. I think it only shows you have personally dated unappreciative women; which brings us to the question of how you select the women you go out with. I'm not bitter at all. Where did you get that from? I just don't think a relationship should be about money. I go for foreign women. They don't have this annoying sense of entitlement. Why would men be "old school like that" when there are more women employed in the US than men? Women wanted careers and equal rights, etc...so take them. Which means women should now pay to take men out.
boxing123 Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 Put this in perspective.. You can go to the Phillipines and get a bar girl. You pay a monthly fee, and she is yours 24/7. Sex when you want, etc. She is hot, young, nice etc. Now what on Earth do you get with the American woman? American men really get screwed. You take her out, spend money, she might be seeing others, you might not get sex, she might like you so she is holding out,she will be moody, busy, whining, indepdnent etc etc. COMPLETE waste of time and money.
PinkKittyKat Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 What did you get him for Valentines Day a tricycle? Har har. At any rate, a ~$200 spawn sculpture and a ~$120 Ferrari limited edition LEGO set aren't exactly "kids toys". He's a collector, and so am I. We both have collections of models and toys that we keep in glass cases. We're young at heart! Although I'm pretty sure he'd love an ATV, which would be the adult analogue to a trike.
bean1 Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 Look, the guys who say that women are "stingy creatures" are the female equivalent of women who say that there are "no good guys left". Instead of looking at their attitude and the type of people they choose to date, they blame their unsuccessful dating life on the gender itself. Look towards yourselves people before you attack others. What are you settling for? What are you choosing? For the record, my pants are from Wal-mart and my sweater was given to me free by my friend because she didn't fit it anymore. I am in university fulltime and haven't bought clothes in one year except pants for upcoming job interviews. Where are these women? Everywhere! Why can't you meet them? I'll tell you why. A guy I used to know at work always bitched about women being stingy, money-grubbing creatures, and for some reason couldn't figure out why I refused to date him or even go for a coffee with him. His attitude was crap and bitter. A woman who is not materialistic won't give a guy like that the time of day.
Chicago_Guy Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 Well, you look hot in your pic(assuming that's you). I would assume that you'd only have sex with hot guys, and a hot guy would likely not spend that kind of money. That is definitely not her in her avatar pic - I'm almost positive that is Britney Spears.
Chicago_Guy Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 That makes no sense. I was only referring to your bitterness about women; which makes me think you're likely single. I actually do keep count of how much he spends on me; which is why I was able to give a rough estimate. I have no idea whether he does keep track of it all; so I try to keep things balanced by paying my share, even though he sometimes still won't let me. Some men are just old school like that, it has nothing to do with desperation or looks. A lot of women do genuinely appreciate it and give a lot back in return. If the guy won't let them at the beginning stages of the relationship, then the women definitely make up for it further down the road. That's what I do anyway, and I have a few girl friends who are the same. So I don't think it's right for you to generalize like that. I think it only shows you have personally dated unappreciative women; which brings us to the question of how you select the women you go out with. In his defense, he is from Southern California where practically all the women are superficial and greedy. There are many women who freely take advantage of men - that is why dating is so difficult and disappointing.
949GuitarDude Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 Look, the guys who say that women are "stingy creatures" are the female equivalent of women who say that there are "no good guys left". Instead of looking at their attitude and the type of people they choose to date, they blame their unsuccessful dating life on the gender itself. Look towards yourselves people before you attack others. What are you settling for? What are you choosing? For the record, my pants are from Wal-mart and my sweater was given to me free by my friend because she didn't fit it anymore. I am in university fulltime and haven't bought clothes in one year except pants for upcoming job interviews. Where are these women? Everywhere! Why can't you meet them? I'll tell you why. A guy I used to know at work always bitched about women being stingy, money-grubbing creatures, and for some reason couldn't figure out why I refused to date him or even go for a coffee with him. His attitude was crap and bitter. A woman who is not materialistic won't give a guy like that the time of day. He's obviously not very bright. I would never say anything like that to a girl I wanted to date. In general I try to keep the conversation to her boring job, her petty problems. There are plenty of great women out there. The best are the 18-20 y/o that don't really cost much at all. Also foreign women are great! In general though, late 20's to early 30's are looking for a sperm donor and a money dispensing machine. This is why 2 out of 3 marriages end in divorce.
949GuitarDude Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 That is definitely not her in her avatar pic - I'm almost positive that is Britney Spears. Then she's almost certainly ugly.
Trialbyfire Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 Anyone else recognize the repertoire? Cheap people deserve cheap people.
949GuitarDude Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 In his defense, he is from Southern California where practically all the women are superficial and greedy. There are many women who freely take advantage of men - that is why dating is so difficult and disappointing. Thanks Chicago_Guy. I'm actually originally from Chicago. I agree with you, the dating scene in Chicago is a little less superficial. Watch out though, as California goes, so goes the rest of the world. This is the type of thing that can creep up on you, and before you know it you're screwed.
949GuitarDude Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 Guy's, not all women give a damn whats in u your wallet. You're right! Sometimes it's what's in my pants.
Art_Critic Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 Then she's almost certainly ugly. WTF??.. You are insulting someone's looks on an anonymous web forum ? Your words are making you sound even more superficial than the women you claim to rail against...
isoleaf Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 i think you're all missing something VERY BASIC and OBVIOUS. i seriously think men pay so that they don't have to try so/as hard. i mean... when i pay, i dun care what i look like when i eat, how many beers i drink, how i dance when i'm in the club, how i look, how i smell, how clean i am... etc although i dress well, am clean at rest, dance well, and eat well i notice that when the girl pays, i feel more pressure to really be an awesome date. i try harder not to make crass jokes that might offend them, i dress extra well and make sure to smell really nice and wear cute boxers, i might want to dance a tiny bit better to give them more entertainment, i prolly won't eat as much as i possibly could cause i don't want to pump up the dinner bill, i won't drink as many beers as i normally would because for the same reason, etc and so forth. i think a lot of guys don't WANT to pay attention to that crap and so they pay so that they don't feel pressured to come up with SOMETHING other than the money for the date. i imagine many girls feel the same which is why they probably take so long to get ready and why they are better ON the date than the man. most men, from my understanding, can't hold up a good conversation, aren't all that interesting or engaging or funny, eat a lot, drink a lot, dance poorly, don't start their day by prioritizing their hygiene, etc. is this bad? no. BUT... if a girl is getting ready and is all hot and ready for her date. then the guy shows up and is dressed average, dances just okay, doesn't hold up an amazing conversation, isn't hilarious or interesting or amazingly good looking, then don't you think when the girl pays it's almost as if she provided ALL the fun of the night? i can go at this perspective through several angles and it evens out for both sides depending on who's the more high quality individual. because i've definitely taken girls out who don't dress as well as i do, can't talk as well as i do, can't dance as well as i do, can't converse as well as i do, etc and it's only with THOSE girls that i feel like i "wasted" any money. the whole money thing is wayyyyy too engendered. there are several perspectives one can take that create several outcomes dependent on the circumstances that put the onus of paying on either gender. the fact of the matter is, if you feel like you're paying too much, then don't and put a boundary at your limit. if your SO/date really cares about you then they'll meet you at wherever you set your boundary. if you're reasonable then it'll EASILY work itself out. people go on and on about should and shouldn't but if you weren't so afraid of rejection, you'd just do what you want and leave it up to the other person to stay or go. i've never had money problems with any of my SOs because we share the burden usually with it weighing a bit more on me but barely so if that. this is because i set down my boundaries well ahead of time and those who aren't game filter themselves out. strap on a pair and do things your way. if you're complaining, you're doing it wrong.
BUENG1 Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 I wonder how much she has spent on him in those 3 years... The guy is shooting off his mouth bragging about money spent on a girl.. Look at it for what it's worth.. nothing.. 8k isn't that much in 3 years.. consider also that in those 3 years that 3 Birthdays have passed as well as 3 Christmas's and 3 Valentine's Days.. Those 3 holidays alone can add up to more than 8k in 3 years of a good relationship where the guy is generous with his gifts... He actually sounds kinda cheap if you ask me... I agree, also a vacation out of the country or maybe spring or something will also take up 20 percent of that as well.
949GuitarDude Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 I think women should pay their own way after you have been out a handful of times. The reason I say this is I have been out with my share of dinner whores that are there for just the meal. The last semi-relationship I was seeing a coworker for about a month and a half. On our last date (though I didnt know that at the time) I dropped $375 between dinner, a concert, taxi and drinks. Granted this is NYC. At dinner she picked the most expensive entre off the specials menu, sucked down a few cocktails and desert. I was not trying to impress her but just wanted to have a good time. Do you know what happened after that - she disappeared. Literally. I contacted her a few times afterwards to no avail. The bottom line is if you pay endlessly you are being played for a sucker. The one I mentioned above made a bit more than me and she was perfectly content to let me pay for everything. That's a tough lesson to learn, isn't it? The good thing is that you didn't marry her because then she would've taken your car and your house. Basically legalized theft. $375 stings, but you can recover. As you can see from reading these forums, every chick on here is like that. You can read some of the animosity in the response to my comments. If it wasn't about money to them, then they wouldn't be so offended by what I have to say and then agree with me. They wouldn't call me a cheap bastard, penny pinching jerk.
Trialbyfire Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 The last semi-relationship I was seeing a coworker for about a month and a half. On our last date (though I didnt know that at the time) I dropped $375 between dinner, a concert, taxi and drinks. Granted this is NYC. At dinner she picked the most expensive entre off the specials menu, sucked down a few cocktails and desert. I was not trying to impress her but just wanted to have a good time. Do you know what happened after that - she disappeared. Literally. I contacted her a few times afterwards to no avail. How does a coworker disappear? Did she disappear from work too?
949GuitarDude Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 WTF??.. You are insulting someone's looks on an anonymous web forum ? Your words are making you sound even more superficial than the women you claim to rail against... You're right, I apologize for that. But you have to admit that's kind of bs to put some hottie up there that's not you. I'm not railing against them, I'm just saying don't spend any money on them.
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