9Lives Posted March 7, 2009 Posted March 7, 2009 Men If you meet a BEAUTIFUL woman who does not have alot going on for herself, she is fun to be with, and she is really into you..what would you expect from her besides sex?cause that is obvious.
carhill Posted March 7, 2009 Posted March 7, 2009 that something better or more interesting will come along for her. For her, the answers lie outside of herself
Author 9Lives Posted March 7, 2009 Author Posted March 7, 2009 that something better or more interesting will come along for her. For her, the answers lie outside of herself \ huh? i dont get that
Trialbyfire Posted March 7, 2009 Posted March 7, 2009 It depends on the man. The purely superficial ones will expect you to be arm-trophy, an addendum to them, instead of a real person. The men who sincerely care about you from the inside-out will want you to return their affection and be yourself.
carhill Posted March 7, 2009 Posted March 7, 2009 \ huh? i dont get that Because she "does not have a lot going for herself", she finds her truth in others. After she examines you (the man), she'll move on. The quest is eternal
Tony T Posted March 7, 2009 Posted March 7, 2009 Men If you meet a BEAUTIFUL woman who does not have alot going on for herself, she is fun to be with, and she is really into you..what would you expect from her besides sex?cause that is obvious. The key to massive unhappiness in anyone's life is to expect anything at all. Hope for something nice to happen if that's what you want. Beautiful women are just plain human beings with a nice paint job and they are subject to all the frailties and defects of any other person. To expect otherwise is to believe in the tooth fairy.
Touche Posted March 7, 2009 Posted March 7, 2009 The key to massive unhappiness in anyone's life is to expect anything at all. Hope for something nice to happen if that's what you want. Beautiful women are just plain human beings with a nice paint job and they are subject to all the frailties and defects of any other person. To expect otherwise is to believe in the tooth fairy. This is one of the saddest things I've ever read on LS. The bolded part anyway...the rest is sad, but true.
carhill Posted March 7, 2009 Posted March 7, 2009 Yeah, I'm kinda surprised to here that from Touche. Expectations, whether of ourselves or of others, can be and are positive motivators, IMO. My lawyer certainly expects me to pay my legal bill on time, and I do and am happy about that
kdark Posted March 7, 2009 Posted March 7, 2009 Men If you meet a BEAUTIFUL woman who does not have alot going on for herself, she is fun to be with, and she is really into you..what would you expect from her besides sex?cause that is obvious. i would expect her to have a good reason why she didn't have much going on for herself, otherwise I wouldn't give her a second glance.
Nicodaemos Posted March 7, 2009 Posted March 7, 2009 in general, i dont expect anything from people. in a relationship, two things. Truth, trust. truth about thoughts, ideas, feelings. not half truths, entire truths, even the bad. especially the bad. a problem cannot be fixed if it is never known. trust in me, trust in my truth. Truth and trust. above all else.
Touche Posted March 7, 2009 Posted March 7, 2009 Yeah, I'm kinda surprised to here that from Touche. Expectations, whether of ourselves or of others, can be and are positive motivators, IMO. My lawyer certainly expects me to pay my legal bill on time, and I do and am happy about that Not getting you, carhill. You're kind of surprised to hear what from me? Tony said in essence that anyone who has ANY expectations is a fool. Yeah, I had an issue with that. Or is this a personal attack? Is it the lawyer's fault that your wife left you?
Tony T Posted March 7, 2009 Posted March 7, 2009 This is one of the saddest things I've ever read on LS. The bolded part anyway...the rest is sad, but true. Perhaps you didn't understand what I mean or perhaps I didn't express myself quite correctly. Demands and expectations are a surefire way to disappointment in human exchanges, relationships, marriage, etc. It's nice to hope for something our of a situation but it is highly irrational to "expect" something ever. I don't expect you to understand this concept right off...it took me a while. Benjamin Franklin wrote more than 200 years ago: "Blessed is he who expects nothing, for he shall never be disappointed." Yes, I suppose it is sad...but it's REALITY!!!
Tony T Posted March 7, 2009 Posted March 7, 2009 Not getting you, carhill. You're kind of surprised to hear what from me? Tony said in essence that anyone who has ANY expectations is a fool. Yeah, I had an issue with that. Did I say that??? Of course, I didn't really expect you or anyone to understand what I was trying to get across...hahaha!
Trialbyfire Posted March 7, 2009 Posted March 7, 2009 I don't think it much to expect to be treated with respect, courtesy and caring. If it doesn't happen, then it's not a viable relationship, IMO.
Tony T Posted March 7, 2009 Posted March 7, 2009 in general, i dont expect anything from people. in a relationship, two things. Truth, trust. truth about thoughts, ideas, feelings. not half truths, entire truths, even the bad. especially the bad. a problem cannot be fixed if it is never known. trust in me, trust in my truth. Truth and trust. above all else. It's great to hope for things to happen and to hope with all your might. But when you EXPECT anything from anybody, and particularly when you demand it, you set yourself up for massive pain if those expectations aren't fulfilled. Most people expect their marriages to be forever but nearly half are unfortunately disappointed. I forgot what the topic of the thread was but I'm going to stay out of this. I'm very comfortable with my position on this but I don't expect anybody else to be happy with it.
Tony T Posted March 7, 2009 Posted March 7, 2009 I don't think it much to expect to be treated with respect, courtesy and caring. If it doesn't happen, then it's not a viable relationship, IMO. Absolutely expect it...but that by no means ensures it's going to happen. I expect to win the lottery tonight. I hope to go to heaven but I don't expect to. You can expect and demand until hell freezes over. Good luck!!!
Trialbyfire Posted March 7, 2009 Posted March 7, 2009 Absolutely expect it...but that by no means ensures it's going to happen. I expect to win the lottery tonight. I hope to go to heaven but I don't expect to. You can expect and demand until hell freezes over. Good luck!!! I won't dispute that! But that's when you go find someone else who can meet those very basic expectations within a relationship.
monkey00 Posted March 7, 2009 Posted March 7, 2009 I would expect her to be true to herself and me, loyalty, honesty, sincere, and affectionate just like any other girl who is less than beautiful. Someone who doesn't have to look good or dress up everytime..someone that's comfortable enough to wear a baseball cap and sweatpants one day, or dressed to kill another. And I'm not really a fan of high-maintenance girls either. Is being well balanced too much to ask?
Touche Posted March 7, 2009 Posted March 7, 2009 Perhaps you didn't understand what I mean or perhaps I didn't express myself quite correctly. Demands and expectations are a surefire way to disappointment in human exchanges, relationships, marriage, etc. It's nice to hope for something our of a situation but it is highly irrational to "expect" something ever. I don't expect you to understand this concept right off...it took me a while. How condescending....wow. Perhaps you didn't understand me. I think it's sad to not expect ANYTHING at all in life. What a doormat. Benjamin Franklin wrote more than 200 years ago: "Blessed is he who expects nothing, for he shall never be disappointed." If good ole Ben is your role model..all the more power to you! If I remember my history correctly (too lazy to look it up) he had affairs left and right. Is he your idol? Yes, I suppose it is sad...but it's REALITY!!! YOUR reality. Did I say that??? Of course, I didn't really expect you or anyone to understand what I was trying to get across...hahaha! Yeah, because you're so much smarter than the rest of us, right? So tell me, Tony...what was the longest relationship YOU ever had? It's great to hope for things to happen and to hope with all your might. But when you EXPECT anything from anybody, and particularly when you demand it, you set yourself up for massive pain if those expectations aren't fulfilled. Most people expect their marriages to be forever but nearly half are unfortunately disappointed. And what do you think happens when you have NO expectations? At least the other way, you have a chance at happiness. Your way becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy...with zero chance of happiness. I forgot what the topic of the thread was but I'm going to stay out of this. I'm very comfortable with my position on this but I don't expect anybody else to be happy with it. And how's that workin' for ya? Absolutely expect it...but that by no means ensures it's going to happen. I expect to win the lottery tonight. I hope to go to heaven but I don't expect to. You can expect and demand until hell freezes over. Good luck!!! but what happens if you expect NOTHING? That's what you get.
MindoverMatter Posted March 7, 2009 Posted March 7, 2009 As I understand it, you are really asking whether or not beauty is in itself reason enough to start a relationship with a woman? Or, if beauty at the very least lowers the expectations one might generally have concerning career, education and so on? If those are the questions at hand, then my reply is this: in my own experience, the expectations never go away. Beauty is only helpful in defering the inevitable end of the infamous infatuation period. In other words, beauty creates and intensifies lust, and as long as lust is there, any flaw can be overseen. But once the lust is gone, people will perceive flaws and imperfections. If you don't fulfill what they need (or think they need) then the relationship will end at this point. If you're not beautiful, the infatuation period will simply be much shorter. But the end result is the same.
Sam Spade Posted March 7, 2009 Posted March 7, 2009 Men If you meet a BEAUTIFUL woman who does not have alot going on for herself, she is fun to be with, and she is really into you..what would you expect from her besides sex?cause that is obvious. I personally would only expect a short term hookup. Beyond that, I'd expect her to be too much work to be worth it staying with her long term. Incredibly hot girls have little incentive to develop relationship skills given the steady stream of attention they get regardless of how they conduct themselves (I'm not saying that they're evil, cold bitches, just saying that all else equal, they have less incentive to watch it). So I prefer average looking, down to earth girls. Of course, there are super hot girls that are low key, devoted, etc., but they are probably the exception, so I'd need a lot of convincing that relationship with her won't be more headache than it's worth it. Beauty fades, so as far as relationship/marriage potential is concerned, that's not the main criterion.
marlena Posted March 7, 2009 Posted March 7, 2009 I don't expect anyone to love or care for me. I only want to be loved to the extent that the other person really feels it and not because I expect him to feel it. If the love is not in his heart,then, not all the expectation in the world will put it there. The only person we can expect anything from is our self and even then we are open to disappointment. I hope for nothing I fear nothing I am free. N. Kazantzakis
Sam Spade Posted March 7, 2009 Posted March 7, 2009 The key to massive unhappiness in anyone's life is to expect anything at all. Hope for something nice to happen if that's what you want. Beautiful women are just plain human beings with a nice paint job and they are subject to all the frailties and defects of any other person. To expect otherwise is to believe in the tooth fairy. I don't understand why this sensible position takes so much beating. Most of the unhappiness in the world (including relationships) stem from completely unjustified sense of entitlement, aka high expectations. It's understandable in children, but not in adults.
carhill Posted March 7, 2009 Posted March 7, 2009 Not getting you, carhill. You're kind of surprised to hear what from me? Tony said in essence that anyone who has ANY expectations is a fool. Yeah, I had an issue with that. Or is this a personal attack? Is it the lawyer's fault that your wife left you? No brainus disease (I read the posting progression wrong). Just wrote the lawyer's check. My apologies For clarity, my wife didn't leave. I helped her buy another house and moved what she wanted to it. I'm nothing if not accurate
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