Men stay attractive longer then women and Peek later in life

[carhill]

Because you are exceptional carhill.:love:

 

LOL, well, the cat still recognizes my lap when I'm over at the "other" house. Thanks

 

Yeah, an early 50s women may have a hard time finding a eligible bachelor that she WANTS to seriuosly date.

 

Personally, I think a lot has to do with Las Vegas being such a transient environment. She's a native and likely has seen it all and I'm sure that colors her perception of the men she meets. She seems to prefer men her age or older. Is 50 really "middle-age"?

[clv0116]

As an older man, I have noted of late that women pay more attention to me, for reasons as yet unknown

 

Same here. I've a few ideas but nothing definitive. Could it be that I'm just really comfortable around women, finally?

[clv0116]

Is 50 really "middle-age"?

 

If you plan to live to be 100.

[carhill]

No clue. I've always been comfortable around women. My hypothesis is that, as women have aged and/or evolved, they see that "comfortable" in a different way. I really have no way of knowing if their internal criteria/perspective has changed, rather just am observing the outer signs. It could be something as simple as lowered inhibitions from changing social mores.

 

I do hope to live to 100. My e-mail signature line reads "longevity is the ultimate success"

[clv0116]

More meat for the grinder.

 

Age difference doesn't seem to be a strong indicator of the likelihood of divorce.

[susyq76]

More meat for the grinder.

 

Age difference doesn't seem to be a strong indicator of the likelihood of divorce.

 

Yeah, because the old dude dies and she just remarries someone her own age!

[clv0116]

Yeah, because the old dude dies and she just remarries someone her own age!

 

Maybe, of course by then her own age is gonna be 60+ so who knows.

[burning 4 revenge]

If theres one thing I know its that women love enlarged prostate glands

[Jersey Shortie]

Yeah, an early 50s women may have a hard time finding a eligible bachelor that she WANTS to seriuosly date. Although I'm sure they are out there. I can see the drop in early 50s because by then most people are married and/or divorced. I guess my issue was people stating that a 35 year old would not have dating options. 35 is still VERY young. Shoot, at 35 you stil lhave 20+ years to work for petes sake.

 

Yeah I think 35 is pretty young as well.

 

My mom is 52 and she still gets hit on. From nice men too. Not douche bagsShe is not a size 4 anymore but she does work out regularly. I think they would seriously date her if she wasn't married. Also on that point. My mom married my father who is 17 years older then her. And while when she was young, the age difference wasn't as apparent. the age difference now is. She wants to still do things and my father doesn't. She complains about this and is hurt by his lack of effort in wanting to do the things she does. It's not fair to her to be honest. I love my father very much and so does she. But she ALWAYS tells me to marry/date men closer to my age. I have seen the struggles in their marriage with such an age difference. I use to tell her that SHE married a man so much older then her and her response was always "That is why I can give you the advice I can, because of my experience." I think she is right to be honest. I like dating older men. They spend money on you. It's fun. But when it comes to settling down. I hope to do so with a man closer to my age. I take me closer to my own age more seriously. And I would be fine with marryign someone 5 years older. But 10+.... not such a good deal for a young woman anymore.

[mr.dream merchant]

Yeah I think 35 is pretty young as well.

 

My mom is 52 and she still gets hit on. From nice men too. Not douche bagsShe is not a size 4 anymore but she does work out regularly. I think they would seriously date her if she wasn't married. Also on that point. My mom married my father who is 17 years older then her. And while when she was young, the age difference wasn't as apparent. the age difference now is. She wants to still do things and my father doesn't. She complains about this and is hurt by his lack of effort in wanting to do the things she does. It's not fair to her to be honest. I love my father very much and so does she. But she ALWAYS tells me to marry/date men closer to my age. I have seen the struggles in their marriage with such an age difference. I use to tell her that SHE married a man so much older then her and her response was always "That is why I can give you the advice I can, because of my experience." I think she is right to be honest. I like dating older men. They spend money on you. It's fun. But when it comes to settling down. I hope to do so with a man closer to my age. I take me closer to my own age more seriously. And I would be fine with marryign someone 5 years older. But 10+.... not such a good deal for a young woman anymore.

 

Its not fair for your father either. He's ****ing old, give him a break.

[Cherished]

It's just sad,the man in this situation gets the younger energetic spouse to take him into old age and wife becomes nurse.

 

 

All Jersey is saying is that a guy can be several years older and established, but the woman isn't getting a great deal. Many, many younger women are aware of that and wouldn't touch an older man with a ten-foot pole.

[JerseyShortie]

Its not fair for your father either. He's ****ing old, give him a break.

 

Umm, what's not fair for my father? That he got to do things he wanted to do before getting married and now has a younger wife to play nurse maid and do the things he can't do? Yes, he took care of her finacially. But there is more to life then just that. Especially with my generation that have gone to school and made lives for ourselves.

 

It's not so attractive when you have to play more nurse maid then wife to your husband. I LOVE my father. But the simple truth is the older we get, the faster we age. He is aging WAY faster then she is. He got to travel when he was younger. She married him right out of school. Now that she wants to travel, he doesn't. She wants to go into the city for dinner, he wants to drive down to the local tavern.

 

I am not saying that I want my parents to divorce or that they don't love each other or that him or my mom don't deserve respect. Or that their arangement is wrong. But I see the issues their age difference has caused. And my mom, based on her own experience being married to an older man, as always advised me not to marry someone that much older then me. And I am really simplfying the issues that sometimes come up with them. And yes, all relationships have problems but their age difference is a very realistic problem. And is more obvious the older they get because my father doesn't have the drive and energy he use to.

 

I would like a more even field, where I can take care of my guy and he wants to do the same. But I don't want such an imbalance that I am playing nursemaid in the man that suppose to be my husband years down the line when I still want to experience what life has to offer.

[DMoon]

Umm, what's not fair for my father? That he got to do things he wanted to do before getting married and now has a younger wife to play nurse maid and do the things he can't do? Yes, he took care of her finacially. But there is more to life then just that. Especially with my generation that have gone to school and made lives for ourselves.

 

It's not so attractive when you have to play more nurse maid then wife to your husband. I LOVE my father. But the simple truth is the older we get, the faster we age. He is aging WAY faster then she is. He got to travel when he was younger. She married him right out of school. Now that she wants to travel, he doesn't. She wants to go into the city for dinner, he wants to drive down to the local tavern.

 

I am not saying that I want my parents to divorce or that they don't love each other or that him or my mom don't deserve respect. Or that their arangement is wrong. But I see the issues their age difference has caused. And my mom, based on her own experience being married to an older man, as always advised me not to marry someone that much older then me. And I am really simplfying the issues that sometimes come up with them. And yes, all relationships have problems but their age difference is a very realistic problem. And is more obvious the older they get because my father doesn't have the drive and energy he use to.

 

I would like a more even field, where I can take care of my guy and he wants to do the same. But I don't want such an imbalance that I am playing nursemaid in the man that suppose to be my husband years down the line when I still want to experience what life has to offer.

 

 

Jersie Shortie I truly do sympathize with your frustration. It is maddening to read over and over again that you are not viable after a certain age, but somehow men can dip into the fountain of youth well past their prime.

Although the life span of men and women has lengthened considerably, it is still acceptable for a man to marry someone younger as well as significantly younger than themselves and no amount of women's lib or changing economic demands (women being bread winners) are going to change this, especially when a man often discounts the educational level and other factors that don't have do with a woman's physical attractiveness and has the option of being with someone who is younger and hotter.

 

Bruce Willis has only verified what some of the men on this thread have espoused is their right to always have the option of the younger, nubile model. I don't think he is physically attractive but that didn't stop him from marrying someone 25 years younger than himself. Tony Randel is another case in point who married someone at least 40 years younger than himself and left behind two very young children.

 

I don't think you will ever change this cultural more. I do think women have to individually define themselves beyond the approval and affection of men in order to be even remotely sane--especially if she can't use beauty to snag a man. It is fruitless to beg men to see beyond the entitlment and advantages they have that are built into Civilization for thousands of years. You simply cannot win.

[Cherished]

They're both very rich.

[Cherry Blossom 35]

And celebrities.

[mr.dream merchant]

Umm, what's not fair for my father? That he got to do things he wanted to do before getting married and now has a younger wife to play nurse maid and do the things he can't do? Yes, he took care of her finacially. But there is more to life then just that. Especially with my generation that have gone to school and made lives for ourselves.

 

It's not so attractive when you have to play more nurse maid then wife to your husband. I LOVE my father. But the simple truth is the older we get, the faster we age. He is aging WAY faster then she is. He got to travel when he was younger. She married him right out of school. Now that she wants to travel, he doesn't. She wants to go into the city for dinner, he wants to drive down to the local tavern.

 

I am not saying that I want my parents to divorce or that they don't love each other or that him or my mom don't deserve respect. Or that their arangement is wrong. But I see the issues their age difference has caused. And my mom, based on her own experience being married to an older man, as always advised me not to marry someone that much older then me. And I am really simplfying the issues that sometimes come up with them. And yes, all relationships have problems but their age difference is a very realistic problem. And is more obvious the older they get because my father doesn't have the drive and energy he use to.

 

I would like a more even field, where I can take care of my guy and he wants to do the same. But I don't want such an imbalance that I am playing nursemaid in the man that suppose to be my husband years down the line when I still want to experience what life has to offer.

 

She shouldn't have married some old guy then. What's to feel bad for? She made her own decisions. Everything is an opportunity cost.

[Sam Spade]

She shouldn't have married some old guy then. What's to feel bad for? She made her own decisions. Everything is an opportunity cost.

 

Yeah, being taken care of financially, which this guys did per JSs own admission, "is not all there is to life" (which it isn't) once you start taking it for granted . Now that it got uncomfortable, she's looking for a better deal .

[mr.dream merchant]

Yeah, being taken care of financially, which this guys did per JSs own admission, "is not all there is to life" (which it isn't) once you start taking it for granted . Now that it got uncomfortable, she's looking for a better deal .

 

Typical female right? Rofl that's why you don't listen to what comes out of their mouth, bunch of emotional hysteria.

[carhill]

Having seen a true "nursemaid" in action, watching my mother selflessly care for my father while he died of cancer, I know that all women aren't looking for the "better deal". It just takes awhile to deconstruct the haystack.

[Trialbyfire]

to read over and over again that you are not viable after a certain age, but somehow men can dip into the fountain of youth well past their prime.

This is a one-sided argument of acceptance v. reality.

Bruce Willis has only verified what some of the men on this thread have espoused is their right to always have the option of the younger, nubile model. I don't think he is physically attractive but that didn't stop him from marrying someone 25 years younger than himself. Tony Randel is another case in point who married someone at least 40 years younger than himself and left behind two very young children.

Do you recall who Bruce Willis was married to, previous to the much younger woman? Yes, that's right, Demi Moore who is also married to Ashton Kutcher, who's 16 years her junior. Don't you think this speaks more about both Bruce and Demi's respective maturity levels, rather than anything else?

 

They're both very rich.

So is Demi.

 

And celebrities.

So is Demi.

[clv0116]

I think it's a mistake to use celebrities as cases in point for this sort of thing. They live in their own little rarefied stratosphere.

[angie2443]

As an older man, I have noted of late that women pay more attention to me, for reasons as yet unknown. Not particularly wealthy, not particularly handsome, still a good listener. Maybe their priorities have changed, IDK. TBH, I hope, the day after I peak, I die. Life is about growth, IMO.

 

They like a good listener:). Everybodie's looks fade as they get older but if they work it right, their personality can overcome that.

[Sam Spade]

I think it's a mistake to use celebrities as cases in point for this sort of thing. They live in their own little rarefied stratosphere.

 

Good thing Lindsay Lohan is about to fall down to earth. She'll be a cheap mid-week date if someone is so inclined. She may be 20 something, but she already looks like retired stripper from the morning shift. No go.

[Tony]

This thread has run its course and no longer serves any useful purpose. I hope everybody got some enjoyment out of it. A great many of the last 200 posts contained some inappropriate element. CLOSED!