Good Books on Relationships and understanding women in general.

[Alan430]

Hey guys i have seen alot of titles posted in regards to marriage etc. I was wondering if anyone (GunnY) could recommend some books on Dating, relationships and women in general.

 

As soon as i feel a have a good understanding in regards to women i am proven wrong. Not really looking for books on Marriage since that chapter of my life is over. I will get to those when the time comes again.

 

Thanks,

[Ronni_W]

As soon as i feel a have a good understanding in regards to women i am proven wrong.

That's because every person is unique -- man or woman, we each have a set of one-of-a-kind experiences, beliefs, gifts, talents, weaknesses, fears, strengths, aspirations, desires, opinions, ideas, imagination, etc., etc.

 

There is no book that contains ALL the fingerprints on the planet, or even 10% of them -- you're asking for pretty much the same thing.

EDIT: And there's not a set of books, either. Women are not like TVs, where there is actually a limited number of models! I mean. We're limited to however many billion of us there are. There is no "some books" that's gonna help you...you gotta learn about the most important aspects of who we are, one woman at a time.

[alphamale]

Women are not like TVs, where there is actually a limited number of models!

women are much more alike than you think they are...as are men. these "similarities" are taken advantage of in many ways, shapes and forms.

 

one perfect example is marketing goods and services to women. another good example is the suave, handsome and sophisticated male who can bed many women....

[Gunny376]

While its true that each and ~

 

"every person is unique -- man or woman, we each have a set of one-of-a-kind experiences, beliefs, gifts, talents, weaknesses, fears, strengths, aspirations, desires, opinions, ideas, imagination, etc.,"

 

There are things you can do, skills that can be acquired and honed to a razor sharp edge.

 

But these are "social skills" that can used with either men (as in getting a job, a promotion, etc.,) and are based upon a study of basic human psychology.

 

The first I would recommend is "The Game" by Neil Strauss, to be followed up with "The Mystery Method" But make sure you read "The Game" as "The Mystery Method" will make more sense to you. Consider the first the textbook, and the second is the workbook.

 

But I caution you! You won't be able to just read the books, and instantly be capable of applying what they have to revel! It will take you down a path that will take about a year and a half to master if not longer, and you will have more failures than success initially. But this is where the equation of:

 

"E = r" in which you will initially need to apply and enormous amount of effort that will yield very little results until you master them ~ and its really all about "mastering yourself ~ which in time will flip the equation to where it becomes "e=R" in which very little effort is required but yields very large results.

 

Goggle "Stylelife Elite" and "Stylelife" (they're two different sites, the former is a paid site, the later is free to get an idea.

 

"Mystery" is a guy out of Toronto, Canada who at age 26 was still a virgin and who begin studying the inter-personal dynamics and social inter-action. An aspiring professional magician, he went out night after night taking notes, doing a lot of trial and error, initially meeting with a lot of failures with women but finally over-came them. He became good, really good ~ damn good.

 

He become a PUA ~ Pick-up Artist. He became so good that he became a guru in the PUA society. He started charging other "virgins" $600 for a three day seminar/shop to teach them what he had learned. (Its not up to $3000)

 

To look at the guy, you would think he couldn't get a date, let alone get laid if he had $10,000 in case and was riding on a train loaded with nothing but women going to a hooker convention in Vegas?

 

He's six foot three, skinny as a rail, wears eye-liner, white eye-shadow, paints his nails black, and wears a fury "Cat in the Hat" hat, (among other things) ~ he does this to demonstrated that appearances doesn't matter, but what you say, do, and how you interact with women that matters.

 

Neil Strauss is a published author, and was a writer for the New York Times, who was sent to do a story on him. He ended up studying "Mystery's" method for two years, and eventually became a PUA Guru himself having mastered what he learned over the course of two years.

 

He too was a twenty-something virgin, and again to look at him you would think he couldn't get a date, let alone a steady girlfriend?

 

Other PUA's are Carlos Xuma, David Matthews, and David DeAngelo ~ they've all got good stuff to offer, but its not cheap!

 

But the central core to any and all of it is that you must master yourself before you can master others? To thy own self be true, and to know yourself ~ who you are and what your all about.

 

To narrow it down I would say that Neil Strauss' "StyleLife Academy" and "StyleLife Elite" is the best, because even though he learned to become a master PUA that could walk into virtually any club in L.A. and walk out with a HB10, it came down to just one HB10 that none of his PUA tricks, methods, and skills would work on?

 

She was a HB10, but she was having nothing to do with it! Nothing and I mean nothing worked! It finally came down to him just "being himself" ~ but were it not for the PUA material she would have never given him the time of day?

 

The interesting thing about all of this is? Especially during the current hard economic times, is that the two main areas of peoples lives? Personal relationships and personal finance? Aren't taught anywhere in the formal education system? And these are the two areas that we fail in the most, but virtually none of us study them.

 

Other books I've read that I would recommend"

 

"Why Men Don't Get Enough Sex and Women Don't Get Enough Love"

 

"Genderspeak"

 

"Body Language"

 

You Just Don't Understand"

 

"Why Men Don't Have A Clue And Women Need Another Pair of Shoes"

 

"Why Women Worry"

 

In closing I would say that generally it comes down to it not being about you, but in meeting the wants and needs of another person. Not being selfish, self-serving, and about being loving and giving., even self scarificing of your own wants and needs?

 

Not about your career, rising to the top, succeding, having a Bently by the time your 35, a mansion on the hill etc,......

 

Its about one man loving one woman!

 

"Seduction"

 

"How To Satisfy A Woman Every time and Have Her Beg For More......" (Explains sex from a woman's perspective by a woman)

 

"Erotic Massage"

 

"1001 Ways To Be Romantic"

 

"1001 More Ways To Romantic"

 

"Romance 101"

 

 

"Tantric Sex"

 

 

"1000 Things To Do On A Date"

 

 

"What Women Want"

 

 

"Light Her Fire"

 

 

"How To Give Her Absolute Pleasure!"

[Ronni_W]

There are things you can do, skills that can be acquired and honed to a razor sharp edge.

Thanks, Gunny, that was exactly my point -- to undertake self-growth and development for one's Self; to acquire and master skills that one intends to use everywhere, all the time, to promote and support one's own happiness and success.

That is, put the focus on helping 'me' create 'my' happy life (instead of striving for an impossible goal of fully understanding anyone else, woman or man...nevermind the whole female or male species. That is too big a task!)

 

We can really only ever hope to understand our Self...and even that seems as if it needs a few hundred lifetimes!

[Alan430]

Thanks for the replys, I am not that dense to think there is one book to explain every women in 500 pages.

 

Thanks Gunny, this is exactly what i am looking for.

[Gunny376]

To be really successful your going to have to get out there in "tha' field" and fail more than you suceed.

 

Its frustrating, infurating, depressing,................but its a fact! You can read, train and train, but there's nothing like actual combat for you to really learn.

 

 

Rember?

 

E=r

 

and

 

e=R

[learner911]

Hey guys i have seen alot of titles posted in regards to marriage etc. I was wondering if anyone (GunnY) could recommend some books on Dating, relationships and women in general.

 

As soon as i feel a have a good understanding in regards to women i am proven wrong. Not really looking for books on Marriage since that chapter of my life is over. I will get to those when the time comes again.

 

Thanks,

 

Out of most books I have read over the past while this is my current train of thought:

(This is relationship wise and probably not applicable to picking up woman)

 

Woman want to be emotionally moved, appreciated, romanced, supported, a man that can stand up to her (the woman here will probably disagree on this one), and probably a long list of other stuff... but I think the ones I named is probably at the top of the list of what most woman want from their man...

 

 

Men want sex. They want other stuff as well but I think for most this is at the top of the list. I think most woman today don't know what power they hold over men with their sexuality. (Think about Cleopatra) On the other hand men forget that a woman lives in an emotional world and if he stirs her emotions it's the same as her giving him some steamy sex... hmm.. maybe this doesn't make sense but this is my current train of thought....

[Phateless]

The Venusian Arts Handbook.

[Remy]

Good luck. Hope all goes well for both of you.

[Ronni_W]

I am not that dense to think there is one book to explain every women in 500 pages.

Alan, I'm sorry. That's exactly how my post came across -- it was unnecessary and I acted rudely. My undisciplined reaction to so much crap about "walk away wives" and "all women being witches and bitches, nags and hags."

 

I would have preferred if I'd "reframed", as Gunny did, and realized that you really were just asking for resources to help increase your own self-confidence and relationship skills.

 

Again, my apologies.

Ronni

[Alan430]

Alan, I'm sorry. That's exactly how my post came across -- it was unnecessary and I acted rudely. My undisciplined reaction to so much crap about "walk away wives" and "all women being witches and bitches, nags and hags."

 

I would have preferred if I'd "reframed", as Gunny did, and realized that you really were just asking for resources to help increase your own self-confidence and relationship skills.

 

Again, my apologies.

Ronni

 

No biggy Ronni, And i totaly understand the point you were making

[Ronni_W]

Much appreciated. Alan.

And I'm gonna put a sticky on my screen, "Not ALL men are dense"

[Alan430]

Much appreciated. Alan.

And I'm gonna put a sticky on my screen, "Not ALL men are dense"

 

 

Lol i may just have to disagree with you on this! Well let me reframe it, "all Men are born Dense" -

[Dad_of_3]

I read the suggested books way back when and they where quite good.

 

The 5 Love Languages.

Divorce Busting

 

and something for the soul

 

Don;'t Sweat the Small Stuff ( and its all small stuff )

[husbndinthemaking]

Homer McDonald's "Stop Your Divorce" book is great. I also liked "Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus" also. Good reads to help you understand how men and women think.