39388 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 You totally missed the boat there no one said you have to want to date overweight people did they. If anything I respect your right to not want to but on the flip side wheres the respect overweight people get now adays? I agree and I never said anything of the sort. Not even close. Everybody has the right to date whoever they please. What I have a problem with is all the people who bash overweight women. It is rampant in this thread. Those who bash one group are almost sure to bash another group. Who knows what group will be next. Link to post Share on other sites
clv0116 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 I haven't read the whole thread, but I've seen names like "cow" thrown around in reference to overweight women. By me? It's possible but I don't usually say such things. Link to post Share on other sites
clv0116 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Who knows what group will be next. I don't bash fat people, but I do enjoy bashing stupid people. Call me evil if you like. Link to post Share on other sites
bentnotbroken Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 The amount of disrespect and to people who are different on here makes me pray that I have raised my son better than some of the actions portrayed by others. Even the poster from the orginal thread, didn't show this type of disgusting behavior. With age comes wisdom, prayfully some you will have long lives so that you can gain some wisdom. Then again..... Link to post Share on other sites
SpanksTheMonkey Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Maybe it's some sort of strategy to shame them into action. I guess nothing else has worked. So in your eyes overweight people need to be shamed into action? why is that because you find them unpleasing to the eye? I don't know but if that itself insent the poster child for discrimination I don't know what is... Link to post Share on other sites
burning 4 revenge Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 http://www.swingingpuss.com/upload/2007/12/jennifer_love_hewitt_bikini_06.jpg this girl is about 10-15lbs away from looking fat from the looks of this pic Jennifer Love Hewitt looks totally sexy in this picture, Id totally love to dive into that Link to post Share on other sites
mixwell Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 I see what the OP is saying and the linked post.. If I was attracted to a woman and she suddenly gained a bunch of weight I would be turned off. I hate to say it but my sister for example was about 5'9 maybe 150 so not fat but thick.. She had 2 kids and now she weighs maybe 230.. To me that is unacceptable. You get with a person because of looks and personality and I think its a lack of motivation that they gain the weight and I believe it flows over to other mentality on other topics. My bro in law is 6'0 185 (pretty good shape) as he is in the marine corps but sometimes I think how can you go from being attracted her my sis and then she gains all this weight and still be attracted to her. I know its a tough subject but I don't think its fair for the other person to watch their appearance while the other party just lets themselves go. Just on the opposite I wouldn't let myself gain 20LB + after meeting a girl because she was attracted to me for my look then and I just don't think its fair.. Yea if something happened major (kids, injury) I would understand but still at least try to exercise while your prego or at least make an attempt to hit the gym after you have the kid.. Just my 2 cents. Link to post Share on other sites
mixwell Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Jennifer Love Hewitt looks totally sexy in this picture, Id totally love to dive into that I would totally beat that too but man she has put on some LBs in that picture.. haha Link to post Share on other sites
burning 4 revenge Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 I would totally beat that too but man she has put on some LBs in that picture.. haha If she gained another twenty pounds I think shed be unattractive, but she looks ripe to me in that photo I like it when women have that kind of soft sensuality, its a great contrast and brings a more powerful sexual dynamic than when their body is hard Link to post Share on other sites
mixwell Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 If she gained another twenty pounds I think shed be unattractive, but she looks ripe to me in that photo I like it when women have that kind of soft sensuality, its a great contrast and brings a more powerful sexual dynamic than when their body is hard Totally agree on the additional weight gain. I love thin and thick chicks but even though I'm 6ft 240LB I've still managed to pull some thin chicks.. last g/f was like 5'1 115LB maybe.. She admitted she was a chubby chaser and was actually not attracted to buff guys b/c her bro was ripped to crap so she said every buff guy reminded her of her bro so go figure.. that was when I was 250LB by the way on the OP- I have no sympathy for fat people b/c you can say genetics etc but thats all BS if you want it bad enough you can do it and I think its just an excuse for being lazy. If they cared enough about themselves they would do something about it. Personally since HS (25 now) I went from 205 and now I'm about 240. I was smaller when I was eating properly and going to the gym so I know why I gained weight and its my fault and until i get back into I don't feel bad or anything because I know why I gained weight and I know what I have to do to lose it but I've been focused on other aspects so I don't make excuses. My thing though is that I don't crave food or sweets ( i actually only drink diet soda due to personal preference not because its less calories) My weight gain is due more to drinking and getting beer munchies late at night. Currently I'm single so I'm not really trying to impress anyone so ehh... Genetics and bad metabolism are just an excuse although some people have a faster metabolism the fat person can too by adding muscle. Don't quote me but think 1lb of muscle burns about 4x more calories a day than 1 lb of fat. Link to post Share on other sites
Sam Spade Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Also just on a side note society in general have been trying to shame overweight people into conforming into what the majority have thought was its idea of "beauty" for ages now... Society, at least the american one, is 60% overweight, so you would think that it is the other way around. This still does not make it acceptable. I think it would be very wrong to shame overweight people for being overweight, and I don't think that this is actually true, just because certain type of beauty is more popular in the media. Well, it is popular for a reason - people find it attractive. So I also think that it is wrong to shame people for *not* liking overweight people. Lifestyle choices have consequences. Nobody should be coerced (or "shamed") in a lifestyle they find inapprorpiate for themselves, as long as they understand that they would not be justified if they try to question the predictable consequences of their choice, such as the possibility of decreased attraction in their partner. Link to post Share on other sites
mixwell Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 It is true, "fat" is not the same to every person. My best friend's exBF used to call her fat at least once or twice a week - in fact he did this once while they were having sex. Currently she weighs about 110 lbs and is 5'4", and to me she seems really thin. Her arms and face are very very thin. 5'4 110LB and he says she is fat ? WTF!! That has to be pretty darn skinny to me.. I guess fat is in the eye of the beholder.. Even a chick that is 5'4 and 130 isn't fat to me but thick. I don't mind some cushion on my chicks.. shhhheeeaaat Link to post Share on other sites
mixwell Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Also just on a side note society in general have been trying to shame overweight people into conforming into what the majority have thought was its idea of "beauty" for ages now... I agree with you on this one. Society and media has made is that if you aren't thin something is wrong with you but there was a time (1700 or 1800's) where thick women were more attractive because it meant that you were healthy and had enough to eat which also equated to wealth because you could afford to eat a decent meal and didn't have to scrounge for food. Go figure... Link to post Share on other sites
SpanksTheMonkey Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 So I also think that it is wrong to shame people for *not* liking overweight people. . Never tried to shame any one for not liking overweight people you can not like lots of different kinds of people granted. But you still must show some level of respect to them that theory seams to be lost on overweight people. I could get into the different groups but thats not needed I hope the core of my ideas here are getting thu in the end.. And I also think if you start dating some one and you find for what ever reason you lost the attraction to the point its a prob for you sure you have the right to then ether try to work it out with them or end the relationship in an adult respectful way. Example here if a man who wouldn't normally date an overweight women starts dating a thin girl and then she lets herself go and packs on 50 pounds and doesn't want to take his feelings into consideration then yes she should expect him to end that relationship fair enough! Link to post Share on other sites
Jersey Shortie Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 And believe me, I have every right to call a certain few girls cows. It's an inside thing, but it helps me and a few other guys blow off some steam and have a good laugh in the face of a very frustrating and unfair situation. First, no. You have no right to degrade another human being. Not one. Second, unfair situation? How is it unfair to you if another person is over weight?? No one said they had to be in your life. I guess one would start by not calling them "fat" but overweight, right? Either way it isn't very appealing to me and I shouldn't be looked down on because of my preferences, neither should the author of this thread, or Kashmir. No one looks down on you for your preferences. It's the lack or regard you give another human being when you speak in terms that is dehumanizing that makes you look bad, not them. That's what is looked down upon. Link to post Share on other sites
burning 4 revenge Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Yes, this reminds me of the lyrics: "You're once, twice, three times a lady" - just a great song about a woman who started out normal, and eventually crushed her lover. He died with a smile on his face, though. was that Lineol Richie or Kenny Rogers? Link to post Share on other sites
missdependant Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 I think I speak for myself and a large number of people when I say fat girls are unattractive. I'll stop right there, because that is a horribly shallow thing to say. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, for one. For another, there are plenty of bigger girls who are still attractive, end up getting married and end up getting dates. It's about how they carry and present themselves. Our current standard on how women SHOULD look is something new. Our views on beauty years ago were women with voluptuous figures.. women who LOOKED like they had a body capable of carrying children. Now, our culture feels that in order for a woman to be considered beautiful she has to be anorexic. For example, Jessica Simpson some hype recently about Jessica Simpson being overweight. Later, it was learned that she weighs 130 pounds. 130 pounds is HEALTHY, FFS. Being 5'5 and weighing 100 pounds is anorexic and not healthy. BTW, the same thing can be said about women who are OVERLY skinny. Which seems to be the case for almost every celebrity in our pop-culture. Link to post Share on other sites
39388 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, for one. It sure is for me! I have no weight requirement on a women I would date. Of course I have to find her attractive, but I see women of many shapes and sizes which I find attractive. Then there is everything else including that thing called inner beauty that some don't always look for until they get older. Link to post Share on other sites
kashmir Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 First, no. You have no right to degrade another human being. Not one. Second, unfair situation? How is it unfair to you if another person is over weight?? No one said they had to be in your life. Hah, you're going to tell me what I have the right to say? That's funny. As for what I said before, I was referring to a specific situation going on with me and some others right now. I shouldn't have brought it up, as I would have to explain it in detail, and I don't think people really care enough. But yeah, essentially we're forced to be around a bunch of fat obnoxious bitches, so we make light of the situation by comparing them to farm animals. No one looks down on you for your preferences. It's the lack or regard you give another human being when you speak in terms that is dehumanizing that makes you look bad, not them. That's what is looked down upon. Honestly, I don't care how I look to LS. I'll stop right there, because that is a horribly shallow thing to say. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, for one. For another, there are plenty of bigger girls who are still attractive, end up getting married and end up getting dates. It's about how they carry and present themselves. Our current standard on how women SHOULD look is something new. Our views on beauty years ago were women with voluptuous figures.. women who LOOKED like they had a body capable of carrying children. Now, our culture feels that in order for a woman to be considered beautiful she has to be anorexic. For example, Jessica Simpson some hype recently about Jessica Simpson being overweight. Later, it was learned that she weighs 130 pounds. 130 pounds is HEALTHY, FFS. Being 5'5 and weighing 100 pounds is anorexic and not healthy. BTW, the same thing can be said about women who are OVERLY skinny. Which seems to be the case for almost every celebrity in our pop-culture. No one is saying they want an overly skinny anorexic woman. That's disgusting too (I'm guessing I can call extremely skinny women disgusting, but not a fat one). And there's absolutely nothing shallow about not wanting a fat woman. Green's original statement is perfectly reasonable. Link to post Share on other sites
39388 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 No one is saying they want an overly skinny anorexic woman. That's disgusting too (I'm guessing I can call extremely skinny women disgusting, but not a fat one). Good then. You can send all the underweight and overweight and other not "physically perfect" women with brains and great personalities my way. I'm more and more confident the numbers are actually in my favor! Link to post Share on other sites
SpanksTheMonkey Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Hah, you're going to tell me what I have the right to say? That's funny. As for what I said before, I was referring to a specific situation going on with me and some others right now. I shouldn't have brought it up, as I would have to explain it in detail, and I don't think people really care enough. But yeah, essentially we're forced to be around a bunch of fat obnoxious bitches, so we make light of the situation by comparing them to farm animals. Honestly, I don't care how I look to LS. No one is saying they want an overly skinny anorexic woman. That's disgusting too (I'm guessing I can call extremely skinny women disgusting, but not a fat one). And there's absolutely nothing shallow about not wanting a fat woman. Green's original statement is perfectly reasonable. I was going to respond but I'm sure it would fall on deaf ears anyways ignorance truly is bliss to some people aparently... Link to post Share on other sites
clv0116 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 It sure is for me! I have no weight requirement on a women I would date. Dude please. Maybe date a few before you decide how picky you can be. Link to post Share on other sites
SpanksTheMonkey Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Dude please. Maybe date a few before you decide how picky you can be. Theres just no reason to start personal attacks on anyone here is there? every one is entitled to their opinions AS LONG AS THEIR RESPECTFUL of others no? I think for a guy he has a refreshing attitude toward people in general wish more of you would follow suit... Link to post Share on other sites
clv0116 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Theres just no reason to start personal attacks on anyone here is there? every one is entitled to their opinions AS LONG AS THEIR RESPECTFUL of others no? I think for a guy he has a refreshing attitude toward people in general wish more of you would follow suit... It's not a personal attack, I'm just saying that if he had a few dates behind him he'd have a more balanced view of dating. A man who hasn't had water for a few days won't be picky about what he drinks, maybe later after he's done rehydrating he'll appreciate a good wine. Link to post Share on other sites
Jersey Shortie Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Hah, you're going to tell me what I have the right to say? That's funny. Absolutely I am. You feel that you have the right to refer to other people degradingly. And your completely wrong. But yeah, essentially we're forced to be around a bunch of fat obnoxious bitches, so we make light of the situation by comparing them to farm animals. If you don't like these women then remove yourself from the situation. They don't need people in their life that mock them anymore then anyone of us does. You included. Honestly, I don't care how I look to LS. I don't either. But for mankind, I feel worried. Link to post Share on other sites
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