clv0116 Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 Most older women I know eat almost nothing and exercise regularly, they eat high quality food. I think metabolism and genetics do have a component and it is dangerous to say everyone can or should be 100 Ibs. I DO think average weight should be attainable for 95% of people though. Well if a person is gaining weight they are eating too much or not exercising enough. Your body does the math for you. "Any man who has a BMI over 19, is a big fat pig. My BMI is lower than that so I don't see why everyone else can't be the same." Other than BMI having a flawed mathematical basis I see no flaws in you honestly stating your opinion. Probably percent body fat would be more useful as a measure. Link to post Share on other sites
Lizzie60 Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 A lot of overweight people have emotional issues.. that's why they eat so much.. They should go in therapy.. a therapist would be much cheaper.. they would save money .. Link to post Share on other sites
kashmir Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 As an example, imagine the furor if I were to state: "Any man who has a BMI over 19, is a big fat pig. My BMI is lower than that so I don't see why everyone else can't be the same." Well BMI doesn't tell you much to begin with, so pick a better measurement of physical shape. But even if you were to say, "Any guy who doesn't have a body like Michael Phelps is a fat pig," guys wouldn't care a bit, because why should one woman's meek opinion matter? Or why should one man's meek opinion of a woman matter either? Like I said, stop being so damn sensitive, people. Link to post Share on other sites
clv0116 Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 Like I said, stop being so damn sensitive, people. They're girls. Girls tend to be less results oriented in my experience and more worried about motive and so forth. Well, they're girls and a few manginas. Same applies. Link to post Share on other sites
serial muse Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 Well BMI doesn't tell you much to begin with, so pick a better measurement of physical shape. But even if you were to say, "Any guy who doesn't have a body like Michael Phelps is a fat pig," guys wouldn't care a bit, because why should one woman's meek opinion matter? Or why should one man's meek opinion of a woman matter either? Like I said, stop being so damn sensitive, people. Okay, look, you're not making much sense here. Either the name-calling should have an impact, or it shouldn't. Which is it? Do you want people to be sensitive to words, or not? If not, then why bother saying mean crap, since if it just rolls off people, then won't be very motivated by them, either? This is why I did my psychoanalysis post, kashmir. Because honestly, if you're going to raise up your past as justification for saying cruel things - as tough love or whatever - then I think it's important for people to know where you're coming from. And I don't buy that you believe simultaneously in "tough love" and "don't be so sensitive." I think there are a lot of oversensitive guys - yes, GUYS - on here, who are concerned about appearing shallow and can't just own that they like skinny women - they have to actually demean women who weigh more by saying they're less than human or some stupid shxt, and further justify that cruelty by saying it's for their own good - except they shouldn't be so sensitive! I think TBF said it best: just own it. You like skinny women, that's fine. But why be so ANGRY about it? Methinks a BUNCH of people are simply protesting too much. Own your choices, just don't be a freaking a$$ about it. Why is that so hard? Link to post Share on other sites
Author Green Posted March 2, 2009 Author Share Posted March 2, 2009 Seriously the fact that me saying Fat girls are unattractive and disgusting and I personaly woundn't want a relationship with one and that in my opinion just from talking to friends and living my life is that most men Don't enjoy overly fat women is something that angers people and they feel they need to argue is ridiculouse. Seriously this is reality big is not beautiful to the eyes of most beholders. I truely love the male posters who've come on and been honest about how they have little patience for women who are fat and yes remind us of cows seriously cows and women different species and this one is really offensive so you've been warned don't watch if you don't think fat women are funny Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 Other than BMI having a flawed mathematical basis I see no flaws in you honestly stating your opinion. Probably percent body fat would be more useful as a measure. Well BMI doesn't tell you much to begin with, so pick a better measurement of physical shape. But even if you were to say, "Any guy who doesn't have a body like Michael Phelps is a fat pig," guys wouldn't care a bit, because why should one woman's meek opinion matter? Or why should one man's meek opinion of a woman matter either? Like I said, stop being so damn sensitive, people. So why would both of you dispute my statement? Sounds to me like over-sensitivity! Link to post Share on other sites
39388 Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 You learn a lot about people in a thread like this. Link to post Share on other sites
clv0116 Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 So why would both of you dispute my statement? I'm not disputing anything, just saying that you would be in a better position from a technical standpoint to use some other measurement, like percent body fat. "I'm TBF and I have a PBF of 20. Anyone who has more than that is a hog." Link to post Share on other sites
serial muse Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 They're girls. Girls tend to be less results oriented in my experience and more worried about motive and so forth. Well, they're girls and a few manginas. Same applies. Nonsense. Name-calling is not logical. If one were to view the thing perfectly scientifically, one would observe that if fatter people are that much more unattractive, they will have accordingly fewer mates anyway, so the thing takes care of itself. Calling these same people names serves no purpose and achieves no recognizable goal that would not be achieved anyway. It is inherently irrational and is really only an expression of emotionality. Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 I'm not disputing anything, just saying that you would be in a better position from a technical standpoint to use some other measurement, like percent body fat. "I'm TBF and I have a PBF of 20. Anyone who has more than that is a hog." If I honestly believed that, why would I amend my statement? If I amended it, it would open a wider spectrum for more men to fit into the criteria. As it stands, I don't believe that. Realistically speaking, a man would have to have an effeminate frame, to fit that criteria. Just using it as an example of rude and crude. Link to post Share on other sites
clv0116 Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 Until recently (and still in developing nations) being efficient with food and being able to store energy in times of plenty was an important trait. A few decades of overfeeding won't make that go away. Link to post Share on other sites
Saint Valentine Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 Own your choices, just don't be a freaking a$$ about it. They're not choices, but facts. Nobody owns facts - they're for everybody to share. We're just trying to educate you, yet you insist on remaining ignorant. And that's your right as a human being, so I can respect that. Link to post Share on other sites
clv0116 Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 As it stands, I don't believe that. Realistically speaking, a man would have to have an effeminate frame, to fit that criteria. Just using it as an example of rude and crude. Ah well in either case, sticks and stones, you know. Don't throw them. Also I heard it was "People who live in stone houses shouldn't throw glasses". Link to post Share on other sites
serial muse Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 They're not choices, but facts. Nobody owns facts - they're for everybody to share. We're just trying to educate you, yet you insist on remaining ignorant. And that's your right as a human being, so I can respect that. Haha, with your "facts." Wait, this reminds me of something I said earlier... Oh yes. I think certain posters have, in fact, openly acknowledged they enjoy inciting people and just plain making them mad. Whee, I guess. I can't really understand why that's fun; seems more sociopathic to me. But I guess it takes all kinds to make a world. But that's your right as a human being, so I can respect that. Link to post Share on other sites
Star Gazer Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 And believe me, I have every right to call a certain few girls cows. It's an inside thing, but it helps me and a few other guys blow off some steam and have a good laugh in the face of a very frustrating and unfair situation. Wow. That's the epitome of immaturity and vindictiveness. Link to post Share on other sites
serial muse Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 I'm here to educate, and also to learn. I'm not sure where you're reading all these "openly acknowledged they enjoy inciting people" declarations, and it seems they are a figment of a fertile imagination. Which just goes to show that even people who appear to be ignorant on the surface can surprise you with their depth. Please dun be making baseless statements that you can't back up. It really makes you look quite pathetic. Got anything worthwhile to contribute? Ever? Or do you have more butt jokes to make? Seriously, Valentine, or whatever your name is this week, just go away. It's tiresome. Link to post Share on other sites
amymarieca Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 This thread is completely prejudice and unacceptable. I am offended that someone would give such an opinion that is unsolicited. There is no real question about dating, as there should be, just a generalization that people are feeding into. The poster goes as far as to post pictures of people who he considers fat and not fat. This thread should be reported. Link to post Share on other sites
scratch Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 No, all I need to do is be able to attract women I find attractive, which I do quite easily. Enough. I grow increasingly tired of the boasters who spend every waking moment on an internet message board proclaiming how successful and desirable they are, how thoroughly contented with their own lives they are. Everything is cut and dry, simple and straightforward. It's so easy for you and so hard for the rest of us. This allows for two possible conclusions: 1. You are special, or; 2. You are lying. Now, there are some special people in the world, and there are some liars. One category is far more robust in general, and that same category happens to skew even more heavily towards messageboard heroes. Dude, nobody cares how easily you attract women, or how awesome you are. All people care about are actions. And, your actions, to the best of my understanding, include posting here on Saturday night that "Gisele isn't quite my cup of tea." Be sure to clean out your private message box. Many of the girls who post here are hotter than she is (just ask them), and you're such an impressive man they're undoubtedly barraging you with flirtatious PMs. I suppose you could shut me up by posting a picture we can verify as you, or really, anything other than your usual cheeky catch phrases and easy answers. Or you could stop posting for a while and revert to your usual triumvirate of Halo 3, soft core porn and the takeout joints you have on speed dial. If it's not here in 30 minutes it's free, right? Link to post Share on other sites
clv0116 Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 I grow increasingly tired .... Tough it out. My life is pretty excellent and I can't be concerned with your fatigue. You're on your own. Link to post Share on other sites
Taramere Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 Tough it out. My life is pretty excellent and I can't be concerned with your fatigue. You're on your own. Cop out. Perhaps it would be possible to have at least a smidgeon of respect for you if you at least had the balls to admit that you got well and truly "AMOGd" there. Oh but I forgot. You don't care about impressing the posters here. Just the Sosuave ones, presumably. Never mind. Let me just wipe the coffee off my screen so that I can have another read of Scratch's post. Link to post Share on other sites
Citizen Erased Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 That's a cool word. I love it when people talk phat. :lmao: Link to post Share on other sites
clv0116 Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 Cop out. Not at all. I don't want to go off topic, posting a picture of myself would not prove anything and I don't give three ****s what scotch thinks when he's not spending quality triumvirate time. Link to post Share on other sites
Yamaha Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 I don't find fat women attractive in a sexual way. I do know some guys love women with plenty of meat but it is not the norm. If fat was in then models wouldn't be the ideal shape. Link to post Share on other sites
scratch Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 And, the braggart begins to unravel. My life is pretty excellent. Of course it is, sir, how silly of me not to realize. After all, if it wasn't, why would you spend hours a day, seven days a week, telling strangers on the internet how very excellent it is? I don't want to go off topic posting a picture of myself would not prove anything and I don't give three ****s what scotch thinks when he's not spending quality triumvirate time. Again, I have been made to look foolish. Clearly, remaining topical is important to you, which is why you felt the need to address every off topic post directed your way. And, I need not even mention that those are the actions of a person who doesn't care what others think. Regarding my own "triumvirate time," I certainly do enjoy video games, porn and takeout. I just don't revel in an online identity pretending otherwise. There are plenty of other people here to whom you can show off and be successfully evasive when challenged. Stick to interacting with them and your carefully crafted illusion will at least be somewhat maintained. Link to post Share on other sites
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