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Since when is who is attracted to you an indicator of your worth??

 

Everyone makes mistakes--the depression and apathy that can make someone overweight might not be acceptable circumstances for a relationship, and the obesity itself may be repulsive. However--does that make the person less than human? No, it does not.

 

I'm leaving this thread.

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The pictures were OT how so, please don't be so kryptic and yes it was Kirstie Alley. I slapped this togather really quick and it was a pain in the ass finding anything but Supper fat girls and super in shape girls.

 

Green, you are being a bit oversensitive, my man. Allow me to clarify my question:

 

"It might be a bit off-topic (OT) of me to ask this question in the middle of the discussion and I'm sorry for that, but I was looking at the pictures again and it struck me that that person in the last one looks a lot like Kirstie Alley. Anyone happen to know if it is her?"

 

See? Nothing cryptic about it. Chill.

 

I was going to note in the other thread, but it's true here as well - it's amusing to me that the guys are ripping on the women for being defensive about the weight issue. Because what I'm seeing on that thread and this is a bunch of guys who are DEFENSIVE about this issue.

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Please don't talk down to me again.

 

I can and will call out unacceptable statements when I see them.

 

You're angry and hurt about your personal life, but kissing cyber-woman-ass won't help you. Do what I suggested in the other thread and you'll feel better and see things more clearly.

 

 

I think I speak for myself and a large number of people when I say fat girls are unattractive.

 

That is a true and properly limited statement. Notice the use of phrases like "I think" and "large number", which clearly means this is NOT a blanket statement. The blanket statement version of this would be "I and everyone else find fat girls unattractive".

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Kashmir, you remind me of a smoker who quit smoking cold turkey. They're usually the ones who are adamant non-smokers.

 

So...what if a girl were to find your current body too thick or heavy. Would it be acceptable for her to tell you that you're a cow?

 

Yes, I was going to note that nothing is more intense than the fervor of the converted, as exhibited by kashmir here. :laugh:

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I haven't yet met a heavy-set (or FAT) person who has good eating habits.

 

I once had a 350-lb roommate, he cooked pasta salad every night and used a jar of mayo a week.

 

Weight can be controlled. Go overseas where food isn't so plentiful and you won't find any fat people.

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I agree. Everyone has likes and dislikes when it comes to what they find attractive or unattractive.

 

I make no apology for finding fat women physically unappealing.

 

I stop reading right here... I soo agree.. we all have our preference..

 

and I have NOOOO patience for people who let themselves go out of shape.. overweight.. stuffing their face on fast food.. then complaining about it.. :mad:

 

I think fat is gross... sorry but it is.. :o

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Would it be acceptable for her to tell you that you're a cow?

He would be a bull. Let's not confuse things by mixing genders.

I'm leaving this thread.

Are you going to do a song and dance on the way out?

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So...what if a girl were to find your current body too thick or heavy. Would it be acceptable for her to tell you that you're a cow?

 

Anything is acceptable, including me telling her to go f*** herself. :laugh:

 

Yes, I was going to note that nothing is more intense than the fervor of the converted, as exhibited by kashmir here. :laugh:

 

Because I know how much is sucks to be overweight - all those soft flaps jiggling up and down your body with every movement...all the sweat in between the folds, knowing that you have no shot whatsoever at getting a girl who doesn't look like you with just some makeup and a wig.

 

I also am tired of hearing people being overly-sensitive towards fat people. Your weight is actually something you have total control over. Saying that your genetics or slow metabolism prevents you from getting in shape is bullcrap. Yes, it makes things harder, but it's still very within one's reach.

 

I have nothing against fat people in general. If they're decent people, I'm happy to be their friends. I've only met a few that fall into this category though, as a lot of fat guys/girls I've met have quickly shown me they're lazy and unmotivated.

 

And believe me, I have every right to call a certain few girls cows. It's an inside thing, but it helps me and a few other guys blow off some steam and have a good laugh in the face of a very frustrating and unfair situation.

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Because I know how much is sucks to be overweight - all those soft flaps jiggling up and down your body with every movement...all the sweat in between the folds, knowing that you have no shot whatsoever at getting a girl who doesn't look like you with just some makeup and a wig.

 

...

 

And believe me, I have every right to call a certain few girls cows. It's an inside thing, but it helps me and a few other guys blow off some steam and have a good laugh in the face of a very frustrating and unfair situation.

 

Well, what this really sounds like is self-hatred, to be honest. It's clear you really disliked this phase of yourself, and that's what the fervor of the converted really is - a kind of projection of that self-hate onto others. I think that, if you didn't have that intensity of feeling about yourself, you probably wouldn't feel it necessary to call people cows. That comes from anger, and you have no reason to be angry with strangers, whether or not they happen to be fat. Only with yourself. I'm glad for you that you've moved on with your life, but you should also give yourself a break (and, by extension, consider giving one to others) for having had such a weight issue in the past. There's no need for such anger anymore, right? Including premeditated anger at your current girlfriend's habits and your fears about what they might lead to. Think about it.

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How about just not being overly INSENSITIVE toward fat people?

 

I guess one would start by not calling them "fat" but overweight, right? Either way it isn't very appealing to me and I shouldn't be looked down on because of my preferences, neither should the author of this thread, or Kashmir.

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Since when is who is attracted to you an indicator of your worth??

 

Everyone makes mistakes--the depression and apathy that can make someone overweight might not be acceptable circumstances for a relationship, and the obesity itself may be repulsive. However--does that make the person less than human? No, it does not.

 

I'm leaving this thread.

 

Are you going to do a song and dance on the way out?

 

Omg too funny. Look this thread isn't about being mean or ugly to fat people I think its disgusting to be cruel to another person. This thread was about how I don't find fat women attractive it is by no ways a pc thread and if fat women are reading it they are doing it by choice. First off at a certain point a woman is obviously fat but below that point it is subjective. Third off while I admit I find fat women repulsive and am not apologetic if a gf ever became fat I may just love her and not even see the fat or care... but if I did care that she was fat I would never berate her try to make her feel fat, call her fat or be mean to her thats just disgusting. This thread and the fat women who read it is the meanest thing I will have ever done and to the fat women or the people offened by this thread it was not my intention but these are the thoughts I have and they are ugly and I'm not ashamed. You chose to read this, I would never tell your bf hey man you gf's fat you should stop dating her, I would never point or say don't you think you should watch your diet and I think you have every right in the world to be unattractive and disgusting if thats what you want or if you just can't help it.

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Saying that your genetics or slow metabolism prevents you from getting in shape is bullcrap. Yes, it makes things harder, but it's still very within one's reach.

 

If this were true, why do you see so few 50 year old women who weigh 100 Ibs?

 

There are SOME limitations to how much weight can be controlled, given a slow metabolism.

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I guess one would start by not calling them "fat" but overweight, right?

 

No. Weight comes from a variety of sources, a heavy person might be very muscular for instance. Fat is precisely the right term. Fatty. Too much fat. Lard ass. OK, that last one was too negative but 'overweight' is not specific enough.

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Lmao what about butter ball?

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If this were true, why do you see so few 50 year old women who weigh 100 Ibs?

 

Because you're in the land of the $1 McBurger and not in Singapore or Ukraine.

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Omg too funny. Look this thread isn't about being mean or ugly to fat people I think its disgusting to be cruel to another person. This thread was about how I don't find fat women attractive it is by no ways a pc thread and if fat women are reading it they are doing it by choice. First off at a certain point a woman is obviously fat but below that point it is subjective. Third off while I admit I find fat women repulsive and am not apologetic if a gf ever became fat I may just love her and not even see the fat or care... but if I did care that she was fat I would never berate her try to make her feel fat, call her fat or be mean to her thats just disgusting. This thread and the fat women who read it is the meanest thing I will have ever done and to the fat women or the people offened by this thread it was not my intention but these are the thoughts I have and they are ugly and I'm not ashamed. You chose to read this, I would never tell your bf hey man you gf's fat you should stop dating her, I would never point or say don't you think you should watch your diet and I think you have every right in the world to be unattractive and disgusting if thats what you want or if you just can't help it.

 

I think maybe the part you're not getting is that one doesn't have to be fat or even a woman to dislike the way you're conveying your message about fat women. You're entitled to your opinion, but people are entitled to theirs as well - you put it out there on display so it's a bit late to request that only people who agree with you respond. :)

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Anything is acceptable, including me telling her to go f*** herself. :laugh:
Oh? Do you mean just like the women who have taken you to task for using a crude and rude statement? ;)

 

Own it kashmir.

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Because you're in the land of the $1 McBurger and not in Singapore or Ukraine.

 

Most older women I know eat almost nothing and exercise regularly, they eat high quality food. I think metabolism and genetics do have a component and it is dangerous to say everyone can or should be 100 Ibs.

 

I DO think average weight should be attainable for 95% of people though.

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It's not your preference or anyone else's that is being looked down on. It's your attitudes about it. Calling someone a "cow" is really shi--y and totally uncalled for. How about just don't address them at all? I mean, really, does someone have to talk mean about someone else behind their back with their little boyfriends to make their pecker feel bigger?

 

I'm not calling them anything. They just aren't appealing to me.

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Obesity is different than being somewhat overweight. Some women look good curvy - they wear their weight well.

 

Personally, if I had a girlfriend gain some weight, I could probably think of some creative ways of keeping it off :laugh:

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If this were true, why do you see so few 50 year old women who weigh 100 Ibs?

 

There are SOME limitations to how much weight can be controlled, given a slow metabolism.

 

I didn't mean anyone could be any weight they want, but anyone can certainly become "in shape." Like I doubt I could become 120 pounds without becoming seriously ill.

 

I'm tough with this stuff, and toughness can offend people. I'm not trying to be a fitness prophet who's leading people to getting in shape, but honestly, it was the bastard remarks from others that finally made me want to change. Me calling a girl a cow could make her feel so crappy that she decides not to put up with it anymore and finally do something.

 

And no need for the psychoanalysis of me, people...I've had my fair share of that. =p

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As an example, imagine the furor if I were to state:

 

"Any man who has a BMI over 19, is a big fat pig. My BMI is lower than that so I don't see why everyone else can't be the same."

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I didn't mean anyone could be any weight they want, but anyone can certainly become "in shape." Like I doubt I could become 120 pounds without becoming seriously ill.

 

I'm tough with this stuff, and toughness can offend people. I'm not trying to be a fitness prophet who's leading people to getting in shape, but honestly, it was the bastard remarks from others that finally made me want to change. Me calling a girl a cow could make her feel so crappy that she decides not to put up with it anymore and finally do something.

 

And no need for the psychoanalysis of me, people...I've had my fair share of that. =p

 

Probably...but I'm right though. ;)

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You ever see an overweight female but she has shape and a pretty face? It makes me sad because you know if she buckled down on the food and exercised, she'd be bangin.

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Oh? Do you mean just like the women who have taken you to task for using a crude and rude statement? ;)

 

Own it kashmir.

 

Bite me. :lmao:

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