Yamaha Posted March 3, 2009 Posted March 3, 2009 BTW, I don't think there's anything wrong with a quick glance from a MM--it's the deep eye contact that seems unnecessary to me, more appropriate for a single guy to give. Considering the # of people who have affairs in marriage the MM figures he has a good chance in getting some. He is letting you know he's interested and it appeals to alot of women who are just looking for sex.
Author Isolde Posted March 3, 2009 Author Posted March 3, 2009 Considering the # of people who have affairs in marriage the MM figures he has a good chance in getting some. He is letting you know he's interested and it appeals to alot of women who are just looking for sex. Even if I was just looking for sex, which I'm not, I certainly wouldn't go to a MM to fulfill that.
chrislovestosurf Posted March 3, 2009 Posted March 3, 2009 Isolde, if thats not you then put your pic up.
Author Isolde Posted March 3, 2009 Author Posted March 3, 2009 Isolde, if thats not you then put your pic up. Irrelevant to the thread!
monkey00 Posted March 3, 2009 Posted March 3, 2009 so what? married women do the same thing to men. its because they are already "taken", more relaxed, have zero pressure on them and nothing to lose by flirting with you... Exactly, I can recall times where taken women have done the same to me. But in any case, I find it easier to be friends with women that are taken ...they are less uptight/defensive than single women are.
chrislovestosurf Posted March 3, 2009 Posted March 3, 2009 Irrelevant to the thread! Its soooo relevant, you let me take a look at your pic and then I will tell you why/if they check you out, single or not.
You'reasian Posted March 3, 2009 Posted March 3, 2009 In public, I get far more eye contact/smiles from guys that are wearing a wedding ring and sometimes even with a girl. This is especially annoying as single guys rarely do the same. There's this thing about being a 'taken' guy that makes women more attracted to them and perhaps we guys explore this, by making the eye contact etc. I approach a girl by myself = I'm satan I approach a girl with a girlfriend in my arm = I'm charming, mysterious, interesting Perfectly rational
Jersey Shortie Posted March 3, 2009 Posted March 3, 2009 And yet another example about how men don't appreicate or value the woman they have. I am starting to think men don't give a crap about women at all. And the woman that are the most loyal to them get crapped on the most.
Yamaha Posted March 3, 2009 Posted March 3, 2009 Even if I was just looking for sex, which I'm not, I certainly wouldn't go to a MM to fulfill that. You mis-understand my post. I did not imply you should take these MM up on their offer, only that sex is the motivator for their interest.
MN randomguy Posted March 3, 2009 Posted March 3, 2009 An interesting thing I've noticed is that guys in relationships seem to be much more confident than singles, but I don't think the same is really true for women. In fact relationships often seem to bring out women's insecurities. DUH!! Isolde! Causality! What if I say, being in a relationship seems to make women more physically attractive. It also makes their illegitimate children disappear. Of course taken guys are more confident. If there is a single guy that's confident he is so much more likely to get the girl. Then he's no longer part of the single pool. Then, of coruse its easier to be confident. All like, hey I'm a stud:cool: that's how I got this one. A feedback loop. As far as women, confidence doesn't enter into it. We don't care if you're confident.
mr.dream merchant Posted March 3, 2009 Posted March 3, 2009 And yet another example about how men don't appreicate or value the woman they have. I am starting to think men don't give a crap about women at all. And the woman that are the most loyal to them get crapped on the most. Man I'd crap on you all day Jersey Shortie. You come off as such a whiny and complainy broad. Quit blaming others for your shortcomings in life and take control, ****, that or shut up. You prolly complained your man's ears off and forced him to infidelity.
JohnnyBlaze Posted March 3, 2009 Posted March 3, 2009 And yet another example about how men don't appreicate or value the woman they have. I am starting to think men don't give a crap about women at all. And the woman that are the most loyal to them get crapped on the most. That door swings both ways. The reason so many guys act like we don't care about you women is because, as soon as we do start caring, you seem to stop. If the options are crap on or be crapped on, like anyone else, we'll always choose the former. And, as a taken guy (which I was, previously), looking isn't required. If me and my friends went out to a bar without the missus, even if we kept our heads down and our eyes on our beers, the ring alone worked wonders. I may as well have been that chocolate man on the Axe commercials. Women would just walk over and start talking to me out of nowhere. I know it has little do to with me personally, as it ceased almost the instant we split up and I took the ring off. I have never cheated on any woman I was dating, but the opportunity certainly presented itself often enough.
Woggle Posted March 3, 2009 Posted March 3, 2009 That is because women love trying to firt with a taken man. I swear that a ring must have a magnetic attraction to women or something.
JohnnyBlaze Posted March 3, 2009 Posted March 3, 2009 No kidding! The best part was that, when we got engaged, she was still in school and didn't have any money for a ring, so she gave me one of hers. It was this cute little thing with bunny rabbits on it; there was no mistaking at all that it was a girl's ring. Even if a guy wanted to, we wouldn't know where to get one. I'd put my beer down, and the next thing I know, some girl's grabbing my hand and saying "awww... that's so adorable!". I tell ya, if I wasn't so honest, I'd probably still be wearing that ring. The amount of unplanned physical contact that ring initiated was amazing! Note to girls: before I get any "dog" remarks, as I said before, I never cheated on any chick I was dating. But yes, just like you girls, us guys do enjoy getting attention, even if nothing can come of it.
carhill Posted March 3, 2009 Posted March 3, 2009 That is because women love trying to firt with a taken man. I swear that a ring must have a magnetic attraction to women or something. It's just an ego boost for the flirting woman. Another notch for her self-esteem headboard. The single guy notches are on the footboard. BTW, I experimented with this last year while traveling. The ring made no difference at all. It's the signals which matter. Signals of availability. YMMV, of course
Author Isolde Posted March 3, 2009 Author Posted March 3, 2009 To me, rings are an INSTANT cue to look elsewhere. I am disgusted that there are women out there, who see it as an invitation to throw themselves at a man.
Sam Spade Posted March 3, 2009 Posted March 3, 2009 I don't usually even notice other women when I have a girlfriend (my friends usually have to poke me and point out that a girl is "checking me out"). I'm willing to bet that politely ignoring them is precisely what makes girls pay more attention to me and therefore exagerate the occasional look I could dispense in their direction, if there is nothing else to distract me.
You'reasian Posted March 4, 2009 Posted March 4, 2009 And yet another example about how men don't appreicate or value the woman they have. . That's a hasty judgement. There's nothing wrong with being attracted to someone while in a relationship with someone else. Discipline, loyalty and love prevent us guys from acting on it. Yes, if I have a wonderful girlfriend, I'm not even going to take a step toward the other girl. I am starting to think men don't give a crap about women at all. And the woman that are the most loyal to them get crapped on the most. Not true. Its a nice thing when we guys can care about a woman who cares about us. Reciprocation is a great thing in relationships. Maybe you're dumping potentially great guys who you don't feel chemistry with for one's that you feel instantly attracted to but aren't good to you... or maybe you're a truly great woman who just happens to have bad luck. Think about your great qualities. What are they? Why would a man appreciate you? PS - I'm not asking this in a critical way, just trying to see what it is that other guys aren't seeing (or paying attention to) in your case.
Jersey Shortie Posted March 4, 2009 Posted March 4, 2009 That's a hasty judgement. There's nothing wrong with being attracted to someone while in a relationship with someone else. Discipline, loyalty and love prevent us guys from acting on it. Yes, if I have a wonderful girlfriend, I'm not even going to take a step toward the other girl. I agree with you that there is nothing wrong being attracted to someone else while in a relationship. But I just see too many men who use it as an excuse for never using self control and eying any semi-attractive woman that walks by. And honestly, sometimes I think the real reason men don't act on it is because they know dating is hard and that that woman most likely isn't interested in him anyway. Not because they have great loyalty. I know that's cyncial but I think it's partly true more times then men admit. Between porn and other women, it's like there isn't ever a time a man isn't fantazing about who ever isn't his girl. [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] Maybe you're dumping potentially great guys who you don't feel chemistry with for one's that you feel instantly attracted to but aren't good to you... [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Half true. I dump both because better to get them before they get you. [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] Maybe you're a truly great woman who just happens to have bad luck.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I am a great woman but I also know I am not exactly what men are looking for and personally I am tired of being pited against men's ideal fantasy of what they wished they had. Unfortunetly, too many women are infact put in that spot because I don't really think men are every happy with what they have and are always looking for the newer versions. [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] Think about your great qualities. What are they? Why would a man appreciate you? PS - I'm not asking this in a critical way, just trying to see what it is that other guys aren't seeing (or paying attention to) in your case. [/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I don’t think this thread should turn into why men do or don’t date me although I appreciate your grace is trying to help out. [/FONT][/COLOR]
BCCA Posted March 4, 2009 Posted March 4, 2009 In public, I get far more eye contact/smiles from guys that are wearing a wedding ring and sometimes even with a girl. This is especially annoying as single guys rarely do the same. Taken guys have nothing to lose. If you smile or wave at a pretty girl and she gives you the finger, big loss - you have a wife/gf already. Single guys seem to be more affraid of making a mistake or looking like an idiot, because they may actually want to date you.
You'reasian Posted March 5, 2009 Posted March 5, 2009 I agree with you that there is nothing wrong being attracted to someone else while in a relationship. But I just see too many men who use it as an excuse for never using self control and eying any semi-attractive woman that walks by. And honestly, sometimes I think the real reason men don't act on it is because they know dating is hard and that that woman most likely isn't interested in him anyway. Not because they have great loyalty. I know that's cyncial but I think it's partly true more times then men admit. Between porn and other women, it's like there isn't ever a time a man isn't fantazing about who ever isn't his girl. What's wrong with the guy taking it easy, enjoying himself and not chasing every woman he sees? Sure, if he's 18 - but if he's a man in the sense of life experience - he doesn't have to in order to be happy. And there's nothing wrong with checking out an attractive woman. I don't think you speak for all females - you guys do the same thing and its a non-issue. I am a great woman but I also know I am not exactly what men are looking for and personally I am tired of being pited against men's ideal fantasy of what they wished they had. Well, its your decision to decide how you fit into the scheme of attraction and relationships. And just to let you know, not all guys are going for modelesque types - I prefer the girl next door myself.
Jersey Shortie Posted March 5, 2009 Posted March 5, 2009 What's wrong with the guy taking it easy, enjoying himself and not chasing every woman he sees? Sure, if he's 18 - but if he's a man in the sense of life experience - he doesn't have to in order to be happy. I am not understanding how this question or response relates to the qoute you referenced that I said, in your post. Did you understand what I said? And there's nothing wrong with checking out an attractive woman. I don't think you speak for all females - you guys do the same thing and its a non-issue. I am fully aware that men have no issue with checking out every attractive women they see, looking at porn, going to strip clubs..and any other acitivies that has them enjoying as many females as they can with no thought to their partner.
You'reasian Posted March 5, 2009 Posted March 5, 2009 I am not understanding how this question or response relates to the qoute you referenced that I said, in your post. Did you understand what I said?. You said that guys don't date because their afraid of getting turned down. Maybe they're just happy with being alone for the time being or maybe they have no desire to play games for the time being? I am fully aware that men have no issue with checking out every attractive women they see, looking at porn, going to strip clubs..and any other acitivies that has them enjoying as many females as they can with no thought to their partner. and you probably broke up with the guy who didn't do those things because you thought he was boring
Jersey Shortie Posted March 5, 2009 Posted March 5, 2009 You said that guys don't date because their afraid of getting turned down. Maybe they're just happy with being alone for the time being or maybe they have no desire to play games for the time being? No, that isn't what I said. You said previously that the reason men didn't go for it was because they had a partner. And I said that I think the real reason some men don't go for it is because they know that chick wouldn't want him and he has a chance of being turned down so he sticks with the sure thing he has even if he wants something else.
Sam Spade Posted March 5, 2009 Posted March 5, 2009 I know that's cyncial but I think it's partly true more times then men admit. Between porn and other women, it's like there isn't ever a time a man isn't fantazing about who ever isn't his girl. Wrong. I love porn, yet, even to my own surprise, I haven't indulged in months. More importantly, most guys understand that it is not worth dumping a girl you have a good relationship with for someone marginally hotter. Not because it's hard, but because why throw away a good relationshios given the high risk that the new one won't be as sasitfying, even if the person is slightly hotter.
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