imani Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 So you got a raise AND your answer regarding Jack, well done Well done, indeed. Now Blue, don't you go getting any bright ideas to confess your crush on your boss. I remember your post from the other Spookie thread.
Touche Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 Who said Spook didn't know that business is about productivity/profitability? She's even talked about all the hours she's put in. (And they have her on a better bonus structure.) I think success also means being true to yourself to a point. Not everyone wants to play the game. And not everyone thinks that they're "trapped" if they have a lower level supervisory position. Everyone's idea of success in life is different. Personally I'd rather have a lower position than not be true to myself. But that's just me. I never would whore myself out so to speak - out in the corporate world. No higher level position was worth it. I'm not for sale and never was. And when I say I'm not (was never) for sale, I mean my true self...my sense of what was right or wrong. That couldn't and never will be bought. I mean I don't know, TBF. Are you saying you maneuvered that whole thing? I can't imagine playing with people's lives like they were pawns in a chess game. You couldn't PAY me to do that. I'd rather work as a dishwasher. No offense seriously. I'm just speaking for myself. Reaching the higher corporate levels was never a main interest of mine. Everyone is different. I can't speak for Spookie but my point is that maybe what she's doing is working for HER. Who are we to judge if it's working for her?
Saint Valentine Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 Wow. Just wow. Talk about jealousy! Some people on this thread need to get a life.
Trialbyfire Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 Touche, this isn't about me. This is about the fact that this type of thing happens within the business world. It's up to spookie how she chooses to handle her life and career. It has nothing to do with how she personally and specificially should proceed in the business world, just that she should know it happens and be on guard for it. Don't think that the world of business is about skipping through a bed of roses.
burning 4 revenge Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 Touche, this isn't about me. This is about the fact that this type of thing happens within the business world. It's up to spookie how she chooses to handle her life and career. It has nothing to do with how she personally and specificially should proceed in the business world, just that she should know it happens and be on guard for it. Don't think that the world of business is about skipping through a bed of roses. you didnt answer my last pm and im on my fifth beer and im oh so lonely
Touche Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 Touche, this isn't about me. This is about the fact that this type of thing happens within the business world. It's up to spookie how she chooses to handle her life and career. It has nothing to do with how she personally and specificially should proceed in the business world, just that she should know it happens and be on guard for it. Don't think that the world of business is about skipping through a bed of roses. I know. I really wasn't trying to make this about you. I was just using your story as an example. I get it but I don't think Spook thinks it's about skipping through a bed of roses. I mean it sounds like she's been working like a dog after all. I was just saying that I think she just chooses to be true to herself and do it her way no matter what the fall out. She seems willing to pay the consequences. As it stands, I'm thinking that she might be admired for her honesty and for the way she's handling herself since they DID give her a promotion. And I don't think they're posturing.
Trialbyfire Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 I know. I really wasn't trying to make this about you. I was just using your story as an example. I get it but I don't think Spook thinks it's about skipping through a bed of roses. I mean it sounds like she's been working like a dog after all. I was just saying that I think she just chooses to be true to herself and do it her way no matter what the fall out. She seems willing to pay the consequences. As it stands, I'm thinking that she might be admired for her honesty and for the way she's handling herself since they DID give her a promotion. And I don't think they're posturing. Maybe, maybe not. I'm glad that they took the humane approach. I'm also glad that she's got another opportunity to make things happen. No company would bother, if they didn't feel her work was worthwhile unless they're fairly certain that Jack has some culpability. I'm not trying to detract from her good fortune...at all. But, I will state that admiration isn't in my vocab for the direction she chose, at least from a professional stand point. This is her first job. No matter what happens, it's also the gateway to the rest of her professional career. If you can get glowing references, which is now a possibility for her, do it. Don't be stupid.
Saint Valentine Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 I was just saying that I think she just chooses to be true to herself and do it her way no matter what the fall out. Exactly. Being a corporate drone is super boring. She's doing it her way, and the company values her unique approach. Nobody is indispensable, but it sure sounds as if spookie comes as close as anyone to the perfect employee. Talent trumps all else.
BlueEyedGirl Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 Funny how it seems to me that doing a HR type of job requires no talent but cunning, two faced personality is a must. And then HR people come on here and talk like they are top s%$t. Nothing personal, I'm just making a general observation.
Saint Valentine Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 doing a HR type of job requires no talent but cunning, two faced personality is a must. You got that right.
Trialbyfire Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 I'm not HR. Management here, either working with or having HR within my responsibilities. My apologies for trying to help spookie by sharing my experiences. If I didn't think spookie was worth helping, I wouldn't have bothered.
BlueEyedGirl Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 Well done, indeed. Now Blue, don't you go getting any bright ideas to confess your crush on your boss. I remember your post from the other Spookie thread. Nah my boss is married with morals and a workoholic. He would reject me flat out, I have no doubt about that. I have learnt to manage my crush by now. He has told me recently that he sometimes feels like he is too much of a friend to me and not enough of a boss, I said nothing and changed the subject - sigh I sometimes wonder if my boss even genuinly likes me as a person or even an employee. Seeing how cunning people can be I think he might sense that I have a crush on him so he is extra nice to me just so that he can get as much work out of me as possible.. As in the nicer he is the more motivated I will be to work more and better to impress him, which does happen. Maybe he actually can not stand me. Oh god.
Touche Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 I'm not HR. Management here, either working with or having HR within my responsibilities. My apologies for trying to help spookie by sharing my experiences. If I didn't think spookie was worth helping, I wouldn't have bothered. ??? Why are you apologizing? Why are you saying you're not HR? No one was talking about you, TBF. I'm sure Spook welcomes everyone's comments, right Spookie?
Storyrider Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 I have a feeling the people at work probably perceive spookie similarly to the way many of us see her on here...intense, impulsive, whip-sharp, someone with amazing potential whose passion will either make or break her.
Saint Valentine Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 I have a feeling the people at work probably perceive spookie similarly to the way many of us see her on here...intense, impulsive, whip-sharp, someone with amazing potential whose passion will either make or break her. Well said. That amazing potential is a rare gift, and the company knows it will not survive without employees like her. I would also like to make it clear that I am not HR. I am a bum.
Storyrider Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 I am a bum. No wonder you love yourself so much.
burning 4 revenge Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 I have a feeling the people at work probably perceive spookie similarly to the way many of us see her on here...intense, impulsive, whip-sharp, someone with amazing potential whose passion will either make or break her.no i dont think so...............
Touche Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 Well said. That amazing potential is a rare gift, and the company knows it will not survive without employees like her. I would also like to make it clear that I am not HR. I am a bum. I'm not HR anymore either! Phew! Isn't anyone who is NOT in HR a bum? Also just to be clear, when I was talking about HR types I was talking about HR types in general. Not referring to anyone specific. I would guess that all the others who referred to HR people were also talking about HR people in general...not a specific person. But feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
Saint Valentine Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 No wonder you love yourself so much. Well, I'm kind of getting sick of just being an arsehole. But then maybe God gave me balls to show me that He still has hope.
Trialbyfire Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 Funny how it seems to me that doing a HR type of job requires no talent but cunning, two faced personality is a must. And then HR people come on here and talk like they are top s%$t. Nothing personal, I'm just making a general observation. ??? Why are you apologizing? Why are you saying you're not HR? No one was talking about you, TBF. I'm sure Spook welcomes everyone's comments, right Spookie? The above quote was what I was referring to, not anything to do with what you've posted.
Touche Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 The above quote was what I was referring to, not anything to do with what you've posted. I know that, TBF. I was just responding to that. Yeah I talk about HR in general too. See? That's what I meant...that BEG and others were talking in general and not specifically to you. I mean I was in HR and I didn't take it that BEG or anyone else was addressing that to me. That's all I was trying to say.
Storyrider Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 Well, I'm kind of getting sick of just being an arsehole. But then maybe God gave me balls to show me that He still has hope. :laugh: So you have potential too. Hope is just imagination + love.
Trialbyfire Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 I know that, TBF. I was just responding to that. See? That's what I meant...that BEG and others were talking in general and not specifically to you. I mean I was in HR and I didn't take it that BEG or anyone else was addressing that to me. That's all I was trying to say. I didn't think that BEG was solely talking to me but if she was including me in her little HR comment, I'm not HR.
JamesM Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 Well, I guess I am a two faced POS based on some analysis here. Oh, and I am cunning. Personally, I am glad that I am wrong thus far. (In case someone didn't get that....I was wrong and am glad that I was). I am not going to give the possible scenarios that could be occurring with the management team at your fine company, Spookie, or I may be labeled as more than a POS. SG does have some good points, and they may be true. There is no doubt that companies do strategize for worst case possibilities, but it would be certainly hard to say if any of that is going on based on what has been posted so far. I know that I posted worst case scenarios for you. I also know that in my life it helps to deal with problems with worst case scenarios in mind. It would have been much more difficult for you to have gone in with the idea that you were getting a promotion and instead you were fired. I hope this works out well. And I hope that all of the so called "doom and gloom HR know it alls" don't actually have it right in your case. With all that has happened, what you need is some breaks and promotions. Now that you have a break, what do you plan for your future? And while I mention it, I will refrain from judging the "going to work stoned" thing. The possible fallout for this seems hardly necessary to reiterate again.
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