Trialbyfire Posted February 27, 2009 Posted February 27, 2009 would you rather "address" p0rn addiction or alcohol/heroin addiciton for the rest of your life?? the latter can kill, the former generally cannot Truth be told, I wouldn't willingly address ANY addiction. Her relationship hasn't progressed into marriage. Why take the next step, when she can walk away now and find someone who won't be emailing 16 hookers due to porn addiction?
alphamale Posted February 27, 2009 Posted February 27, 2009 Truth be told, I wouldn't willingly address ANY addiction. that was not teh question
Trialbyfire Posted February 27, 2009 Posted February 27, 2009 that was not teh question I'd rather address alcohol addiction.
Isolde Posted February 27, 2009 Posted February 27, 2009 Most people consider the world of a woman who uses her body to earn money, as sordid, degenerate, drug-induced and dark. Doubtless there are countless millions of women for whom prostitution is a spiral of despair. But there are equally as many women involved in the sex industry who actually actively enjoy what they do. Although I don't consider prostitution a legitimate form of employment, I never really understood why people say if someone turns to this route they must have been sexually abused as a child. This is far from the case. I am sure that some women in this job enjoy it.
fral945 Posted February 27, 2009 Posted February 27, 2009 Although I don't consider prostitution a legitimate form of employment, I never really understood why people say if someone turns to this route they must have been sexually abused as a child. This is far from the case. I am sure that some women in this job enjoy it. It's funny to me how prostitutes are viewed so negatively nowadays and have all sorts of negative connotations associated with them. Everyone knows the crack whore on the street likely has problems and should be avoided. But what about the high end escorts servicing our Congressmen, Senators, and Wall Street businessmen? I personally see them as smart, savvy business women using what they have to their advantage. What most people probably don't realize is that if you look back in history, prostitutes (specifically the hetaera of ancient Greece) were the first real independent, intelligent, and free women. So it's somewhat ironic to see some women on here putting down a profession that literally opened doors for females and made strides for women in gaining the freedom and rights they now enjoy.
clv0116 Posted February 27, 2009 Posted February 27, 2009 These women have to be shamed because they make the one currency women always have, sex, a commodity with a known value. Once that pussy cat is out of the bag the gig is up.
sand26 Posted February 27, 2009 Posted February 27, 2009 It's funny to me how prostitutes are viewed so negatively nowadays and have all sorts of negative connotations associated with them. Everyone knows the crack whore on the street likely has problems and should be avoided. But what about the high end escorts servicing our Congressmen, Senators, and Wall Street businessmen? I personally see them as smart, savvy business women using what they have to their advantage. What most people probably don't realize is that if you look back in history, prostitutes (specifically the hetaera of ancient Greece) were the first real independent, intelligent, and free women. So it's somewhat ironic to see some women on here putting down a profession that literally opened doors for females and made strides for women in gaining the freedom and rights they now enjoy. No doubt there are the Heidi Fleiss characters and Bunny Ranch elite that are business savvy and independent. Unfortunately, many prostitutes are controlled from young ages by pimps and have no sense of family or love outside of the life. Others are shipped in from second and third world countries and made into sex slaves. Too the OP.... You ask what kind of man finds himself with prostitutes, but it shouldn't matter at this point to you. This isn't the guy for you. You have already changed the way you perceive him. There are folks who have sexual fetishes/diviances/persuasions/addictions and those that don't. There are people that care about their partners past and current sexual encounters/deviances and people that don't. I think you are incompatible and I think you feel the same. the mfk
calazhage Posted February 27, 2009 Posted February 27, 2009 Sure, in perfect world men would be making love to that sweet woman they love every day. But what should men do for sex in this culture? It has become a feminized country. Women are more "independent" and many do not even want a relationship in which a man gets steady /daily sex. Women are not marrying at 18 years old anymore. Oh, I know. Let women have 100% control over what a man does with his body. Instead of paying a woman for sex, pay for a woman's dinner! Make sure the man jumps through hoop after hoop just to get sex, and THEN use the sex as a weapon to get more of what you want. Women whom are against prostitution are control freaks. They judge the women and men for making each other feel good. A true and honest mutually beneficial arrangement. If men could spend money to have sex with attractive women, INSTANTLY the woman whom is against prostitution sees her value drop. No longer does she have all the control of what men want, as other women have put a monetary value on it. These same women HATE women whom have one night stands. It is as if they wish to monopolize Pu%^& to control all men. In their minds men should be reduced to groveling masturbators begging for some sex.
Geishawhelk Posted February 27, 2009 Posted February 27, 2009 These women have to be shamed because they make the one currency women always have, sex, a commodity with a known value. Once that pussy cat is out of the bag the gig is up. Well, not for nothing is it called the World's oldest profession. If there were no market, there'd be no sales. If men can keep it in their pants, pussy won't get stroked. Whilst men are willing to pay for it - women are willing to live on it.
Ruby Slippers Posted February 27, 2009 Posted February 27, 2009 It's funny to me how prostitutes are viewed so negatively nowadays and have all sorts of negative connotations associated with them. Everyone knows the crack whore on the street likely has problems and should be avoided. But what about the high end escorts servicing our Congressmen, Senators, and Wall Street businessmen? I personally see them as smart, savvy business women using what they have to their advantage. What most people probably don't realize is that if you look back in history, prostitutes (specifically the hetaera of ancient Greece) were the first real independent, intelligent, and free women. So it's somewhat ironic to see some women on here putting down a profession that literally opened doors for females and made strides for women in gaining the freedom and rights they now enjoy. Would you date or marry a current or former hooker? How about the rest of the men here -- all of you saying it's no big deal to date or marry a man who's hired them?
clv0116 Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 Would you date or marry a current or former hooker? I have and I would.
Lizzie60 Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 Well, not for nothing is it called the World's oldest profession. If there were no market, there'd be no sales. If men can keep it in their pants, pussy won't get stroked. Whilst men are willing to pay for it - women are willing to live on it. Well said.. I feel sad for women who do it for free.. and finally get hurt...
fral945 Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 Would you date or marry a current or former hooker? How about the rest of the men here -- all of you saying it's no big deal to date or marry a man who's hired them? Sure, why not? It would depend on the person. Probably not a crack whore on the street but there are some high end escorts that would be highly datable if they weren't hooking.
fral945 Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 Would you date or marry a current or former hooker? How about the rest of the men here -- all of you saying it's no big deal to date or marry a man who's hired them? Ruby, Out of curiosity, have you or any of the other women here ever met or dealt with an escort/hooker?
chrislovestosurf Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 OMG.. you have no idea what you're talking about. How about the good-looking married guy who use one.. Youre a ****in loser if you are a good looking married man and you buy a whore. End of story. And I do know what I am talking about because I have a dick.
JamesM Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 Youre a ****in loser if you are a good looking married man and you buy a whore. End of story. And I do know what I am talking about because I have a dick. Are you a good looking married man? Have you "bought a whore?" If you answer no to either question, then how is it you have experience to know what you are talking about?
chrislovestosurf Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 Honestly, I laugh at dudes who pay for sex that arent either disabled or so fat/ugly that a woman is grossed out just by looking at you. I think its pretty sad and people WILL judge you. So guys, please dont admit to ever buying a whore to ANYONE, especially your SO. Prostitutes = disease in many peoples eyes, even if you are safe.
chrislovestosurf Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 Are you a good looking married man? Have you "bought a whore?" If you answer no to either question, then how is it you have experience to know what you are talking about? So its cool to cheat on your wife with a hooker? I dont need to be married or good looking to know that, guy.
JamesM Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 Honestly, I laugh at dudes who pay for sex that arent either disabled or so fat/ugly that a woman is grossed out just by looking at you. I think its pretty sad and people WILL judge you. So guys, please dont admit to ever buying a whore to ANYONE, especially your SO. Prostitutes = disease in many peoples eyes, even if you are safe. So you are not married and have not visited an escort. So your experience is that you have a dick and you laugh at dudes who pay for sex. But if the guy is disabled or fat and ugly (in your mind) then it is okay if they do. Yes, people judge men who visit escorts. The question becomes...which is worse....visiting an escort, having an affair or attempting to steal another man's wife? Visiting an escort is an honest action. Cheating in any form is not.
Jersey Shortie Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 Well, I think it's silly that some of the guys on here that are telling women how judgemental and critical they are for not liking the idea of the the guy they are interested in being with escorts. Isn't that judgmental and critical in itself? Look, here is the deal. No woman wants to think a man had to pay for sex. Does it happen more than women think? Probably. Do "normal" men go to escorts? Probably. That doesn't mean it's ever going to be an attractive thing to women. Why should it be? Any man that is paying for sex, regardless of his job status or society status is still paying for sex and it comes off very very weak. Hugh Grant was with a hooker and alot of women considered him less than a man for it. Maybe other men didn't but men aren't dating other men are they? They are dating women. And we all have standards and ideas about the opposite sex that we hold them up to. Men have their own standards. Would any man look positive on a woman that paid for sex or was an escourt? No. They wouldn't. That is even less tolerated. So I really hope the men here that are being rather cruel stop their own critism and judgmental attitude and trying to force the OP to accept something she does not agree with. No woman has to accept that her partner was with an escourt. It's his right to go to one. It's her right to conclude that that is not the man for her. Calling women bitches or other names because they do not agree with this activity is really judgmental and immature. You can always lie about it. But than she can always lie about her previous activities as well. Paying for sex shows that a man is either lazy, does not want the effort to put into maknig a real relationship or desperate. I know men would like to think that this would still make a man attractive but the reality is it doesn't. I don't pay women for sex, I pay them to leave in the morning." - Charlie Sheen Only someone that really dislikes women and has no respect for them and alot of bitterness for them would say something like that. Charlie Sheen isn't exactly a healthy and good repersentation for men wouldn't you agree. I'm still not sure how you found out? I would never admit it to anybody in real life, just because the world is full of quilt-ridden judgemental bitchez who will make character assumptions based on these minor transgressions. I'm not proud of it, but I also see nothing to be ashamed of. In any case, I'm keeping it to myself, just in case. Please see the irony in this man talking about judgmental women when he himself seems to be riddled with a judgmental attitude towards women. I think most women would prefer to have their head in the sand when it comes to the sexual outlets men use (like hookers and porn). I think it is pretty obvious to acknowledge that when men don't get their sexual needs met through conventional (i.e., socially acceptable) methods like a wife, GF, multiple ONS, FWBs, etc. they are going to look for other methods. The only two alternatives I can think of are hookers and porn. I for one don't like to be with men that have multiple one night stands or really even FwB..or porn and hookers. Does that make me wrong? No. It isn't about having our head in the sand. It's about having certain standards that we want to live by and we hope our men want to live by. Please don't pretend that you don't have your own standards about what you want in a woman. Would you seriously date a woman that had been or is an escourt? What would you think of a woman that paid for sex? What most people probably don't realize is that if you look back in history, prostitutes (specifically the hetaera of ancient Greece) were the first real independent, intelligent, and free women. So it's somewhat ironic to see some women on here putting down a profession that literally opened doors for females and made strides for women in gaining the freedom and rights they now enjoy. Wow. So many issues with this where do I begin. First, men do not look more kindly on prostitutes and hookers or escourts than women do. The only time a man speaks highly of such professions is when he is trying to defend them to women who are not escourts. Most men wouldn't date and escourt or take one seriously. If men really believe these women were so independent and intelligent and free, you would think more men would be jumping at the bit to date them. And if you look back on this post the amount of men that refered to these women as whores exceeds the number of women that did so. Secondly, I have no issue with the profression and I think that if a woman wants to offer it, that is her business. However, I don't want to date a man that has been with an escort. I am entitled to that an that doesn't make me a bitch. Third, What opened doors for women's freedom wasn't prostitution. Please go back to history class and read up on what women really had to go through for strides in freedom. I can infact send you a nice clip that tells a piece of history about what women had to go through for the right to vote. And it wasn't selling their bodies. That isn't equality or freedom and if you think it is , I think you really need to go back and read some books on the subject. The fact that you even think that escourts paved the way to women's freedoms of today is entirely incorrect.
clv0116 Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 I know guys who use escorts and in their cases it's never that they "can't get laid"; I'm sure that might be true for some but not all customers. Let's face it, a guy that can afford $500 a few times a week for an escort isn't gonna have trouble getting a date in general. The guys I know just don't want complications.
clv0116 Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 Most men wouldn't date and escourt or take one seriously. If men really believe these women were so independent and intelligent and free, you would think more men would be jumping at the bit to date them. And if you look back on this post the amount of men that refered to these women as whores exceeds the number of women that did so. Secondly, I have no issue with the profression and I think that if a woman wants to offer it, that is her business. However, I don't want to date a man that has been with an escort. I find this very interesting. I have dated women who were or had been hookers. I'm curious if your dating ban on 'men who have been with an escort' applies to all men who have been with an escort or specifically to men who have hired escorts, and why. Not being nasty, just curious.
fral945 Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 woman. Would you seriously date a woman that had been or is an escourt? Sure, why not? What would you think of a woman that paid for sex? Wouldn't have a problem if they chose to. But women don't have to pay to get the sex. It's already readily available.
Jersey Shortie Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 I know guys who use escorts and in their cases it's never that they "can't get laid"; I'm sure that might be true for some but not all customers. Let's face it, a guy that can afford $500 a few times a week for an escort isn't gonna have trouble getting a date in general. The guys I know just don't want complications. The thing is, men aren't dating other men. So it doesn't matter what reasons men preceive other men to be having sex with hired hookers/escorts for. It matters, in this case, how women preceive it. After all, it's women's opinions of the men they are dating that matter to the men, not his friends, in this case. You can talk all you want about how it's not about how men can't get laid. But you know what, that's the reality of the perception and is infact sometimes and often the truth. Men who pay for it can't get laid, or are lazy, or are incapable of engaging a relationship with a woman. All qualities that are a turn off to women. Come on. You can't really blame women for not being attracted to men that have hired hookers. Most men would not be attracted to women that did the same. A man can play it off like he is so incontrol and he doesn't want the complications. And maybe that's true. But that is just another reason why that man would be unattractive to a woman that is looking for a serious partner that wants to put in the effort and is a mature enough human being to realize that relationships with other people do take complications and work. I find this very interesting. I have dated women who were or had been hookers. I'm curious if your dating ban on 'men who have been with an escort' applies to all men who have been with an escort or specifically to men who have hired escorts, and why. Not being nasty, just curious. If he is clean, my dating ban would be on men who have hired escorts. I don't want to be with a man that paid for sex. That doesn't make me a bitch. It's about my personal wants. Most men wouldn't date hookers, so good for you for not being a man that is hypocrtical and thinking women that are hookers are less people then the men that use them. I am glad you don't think they are. But perhaps you should lay off qoutes that say men don't pay women for sex, they pay them to leave. Not cool.
darby1 Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 What he did in his past is just a case of you finding out! haha. I don't mean to be insensitive, but a bet he is NOT the first guy who had escorts in the past you know.. he's just the first guy ya found out about. Always wear protection in any case.. and if you want to be more intimate.. get tested together. He prefers you over escorts I assure you. And you can't get 'heart broken' about things he did in that department before he even knew you! that is silly. and trust me ... It seems every day I am finding out about my best guy freinds that I've known for 10 years who circumstancially admit they've ordered a hooker b4. ITs a trip to learn! but it's way more common than anyone wants to think.
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