Geishawhelk Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 Disregard above post - I missed a whole darned page - !! :laugh: (FWIW: Tried tro edit less than 10 seconds later. It tells me I can only edit within 240 seconds.... that little programme's up the creek, for a start!! )
chris250 Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 This is known as an argument from ignorance chris http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance You stated it's harmful. Provide your evidence that it's harmful. I did not say it was harmful. I said it was illegal for a 16 year old to sleep with a 30 year old. The point being is that there is a reason we have statutory rape laws on the books. If you say that it shouldn't be illegal for a 51 year old to sleep with a 26 year old because there is no evidence that it hurts society then why should it be illegal for a 30 year old to sleep with a 16 year old when there is no evidence that it hurts society? Why can't 2 consenting human beings of any age difference sleep together then? If you make it legal for one party that has a big age gap then why not make it legal for the other party of another age gap? If we take your argument to its logical conclusion then we might as well do away with statutory rape laws since the 30 year old and 16 year old are both consenting to it. Who gets to decide that the 16 year old is not old enough to consent?
Touche Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 it may only be harmful from the perspective that he's married... so that hardly seems fair to the young gal. i wonder if she knows he's taken... Are you ok, Sunny dear? You uhm, don't seem quite yourself. See above. Tyrone already answered your queries. He's not "taken."
clv0116 Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 Chris' whole life is based on ignorance. To the OP: Talk about whatever common interests you have, or engage in activities that will provide common interest. In can be riding horses, golf, paintball, reading and sharing good books or any number of other activities. If you really have nothing in common that is of interest you might what to consider that a warning sign.
Geishawhelk Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 2sunny......? Sometimes it's best to quit whilst you're behind....
blondesmiler Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 Because at 16 you are not adult enough to make your own decisions, you don't know your own mind enough, your still a child and screwing a child is illegal and always should be. At 26 you should know enough and have some life experience that you can decide for yourself.
CommitmentPhobe Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 I did not say it was harmful. I said it was illegal for a 16 year old to sleep with a 30 year old. The point being is that there is a reason we have statutory rape laws on the books. If you say that it shouldn't be illegal for a 51 year old to sleep with a 26 year old because there is no evidence that it hurts society then why should it be illegal for a 30 year old to sleep with a 16 year old when there is no evidence that it hurts society? Is there no evidence chris? I don't know, you're the one making claims about there being evidence and no evidence. By the way it's not illegal for a 16 year old to sleep with a 30 year old over here Why can't 2 consenting human beings of any age difference sleep together then? If you make it legal for one party that has a big age gap then why not make it legal for the other party of another age gap? Because dear chris, as I've already explained, someone deemed a child doesn't have the capability to make adult rational decisions and needs to be protected. You are getting annoying. If we take your argument to its logical conclusion then we might as well do away with statutory rape laws since the 30 year old and 16 year old are both consenting to it. Who gets to decide that the 16 year old is not old enough to consent? The 16 year old is a child chris. There's plenty of evidence suggesting that people of that age are not matured enough to make decisions about sex. Althoug there's some debate as to where that line should be, 18, 16 ,14, there is no place in the world where it's considered a 26 year old is incapable of making those decisions.
whichwayisup Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 Life is short. If you want her, go for it. Don't let age get in the way. Appreciate eachother and live in the moment.
chris250 Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 Because at 16 you are not adult enough to make your own decisions, you don't know your own mind enough, your still a child and screwing a child is illegal and always should be. At 26 you should know enough and have some life experience that you can decide for yourself. Who gets to decide that at 16 one doesn't know their mind enough to make their own decisions? What's so magical about the age of 18 that we can presume to know that a person knows their mind well enough to make decisions? Who gets to decide what age should be considered adult? And who are you to say that at age 26 a person should know enough? Are you God?!! Well society has decided to be God and be the judge as to what a person should be thinking or doing at a certain age. So why wouldn't it be ok to raise the age of jail-bait then? We might as well.
Touche Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 Chris' whole life is based on ignorance. To the OP: Talk about whatever common interests you have, or engage in activities that will provide common interest. In can be riding horses, golf, paintball, reading and sharing good books or any number of other activities. If you really have nothing in common that is of interest you might what to consider that a warning sign. I agree with this...irrespective of any age difference.
whichwayisup Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 haven't read alot of the posts..Is this guy married? If so, then dump the 26 year old and focus on your wife.
CommitmentPhobe Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 Who gets to decide that at 16 one doesn't know their mind enough to make their own decisions? What's so magical about the age of 18 that we can presume to know that a person knows their mind well enough to make decisions? You are just ridiculous. You are now arguing that there should be no age of consent.
yongyong Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 the point here is that, if you had a daughter at that age and she dates someone around your age, you wouldn't kill the guy? honestly lol
CommitmentPhobe Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 If you find me annoying then DON'T ****ING READ MY POSTS! I DON'T PULL ANY PUNCHES YOU JERK!! Everybody is unique. Not every 18 year old has developed the mental maturity to make wise decisions. I say most don't until they reach their 40s. lol, now now calm down you'll do yourself a hernia! Chris, everybody is unique, but theres enough commonalities. For example, women have tits, men have penises. 15 year olds are children and 26 year olds aren't. Unless of course, there is something genetically inconsistent, but you can't legislate for that.
Touche Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 haven't read alot of the posts..Is this guy married? If so, then dump the 26 year old and focus on your wife. Just a few posts back Tyrone said: The fact is my wife are no longer together -- we mutually agreed to split at Christmas.
whichwayisup Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 So he isn't divorced..Just barely and NEWLY separated.. Can we say rebound relationship?
blondesmiler Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 lol, now now calm down you'll do yourself a hernia! Chris, everybody is unique, but theres enough commonalities. For example, women have tits, men have penises. 15 year olds are children and 26 year olds aren't. Unless of course, there is something genetically inconsistent, but you can't legislate for that. Agreed, you have to set boundries and limits somewhere. At 16 you are still so immature and have alot to learn about when no means no, to be able to speak up, to stand up for yourself in an adult way, to be sensible enough to know what is right and what is wrong. At 18 you probably know somemore having spent 2yrs in the adult world hopefully learning and picking up some stuff along the way. At 16 most of your time would have been spent at school with others of similar age. At 18 you would have spent time probably working and mixing with adults.
Touche Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 So he isn't divorced..Just barely and NEWLY separated.. Can we say rebound relationship? That's what everyone said about my relationship (except my mom.) Is it still considered "rebound" after 14 years? Nonsense. You have no way of knowing that. I was 3 days newly separated when I met my H.
Dexter Morgan Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 Hi I'm a 51 year old guy who's dating a 26 year old girl. We have a great physical relationship but sometimes I find myself struggling on what to talk about. I try to avoid topics that date me and I try not to repeat myself. Any suggestions? Thanks Forget about what to talk about. In less than 10 years, she will realize she is dating her grandfather. I can vouche, my man, that no good will come to you by having someone with this wide of an age gap. When you aren't looking so hot in a while....she'll be trading you in on a younger model. Unless you are rich. And even then she'll test drive a younger model now and then.
Lizzie60 Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 This would be funny if it wasn't so ridiculous. I don't expect she's being led into doing anything against her will. She's an adult, and probably knows how old he is. If they're both consenting adults, the only problem is in your mind. I'm sure the discussion has drifted into such areas, but even if it hasn't, what makes you think that the only one concerned with how to make this work well, is the OP? I'm frankly astonished at how judgemental you're being. Exactly.. everyone is talking like she's 13 or 14.. for dog's sake.. she's going on 30... (26 is closer to 30 than 20)... People need to relax.. and give this guy a break.. geezzz..
Alpha Female Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 i don't think it's judgmental to want the best for a young gal and her future. logically looking at the big picture and her future - it may be cause for concern. Oh, I'm sure the young lady knows what she's doing. She's gold-digging this guy. He admits they only relate physically, and can't even have a conversation about anything, so he's getting what he wants out of it, and I am sure he is compensating her for her time. I wouldn't have sympathy for either of them in this arrangement. Sounds like they are both getting what they want!
clv0116 Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 I agree with this...irrespective of any age difference. Honestly, one can find plenty of people one's own age and have nothing worth talking about in common. My personal belief is that a man should look at women about 10 years junior to him for an optimal pairing but all rules are made to be broken. If two people enjoy the same sorts of things then they should be able to cultivate those things into common passions.
CaliGuy Posted February 20, 2009 Posted February 20, 2009 I personally think that the age for being considered jail-bait should be raised significantly. 18 is too young. It ought to be against the law for a 51 year old man to date a 26 year old daughter. So I don't have any advice on what you should talk to her about because I don't think you should talk to her at all. You are old enough to be her father for Christ's sakes! That fact alone should make it illegal for you to date her. If I had a 26 year old daughter living in my house and she was dating a 51 year old man I would absolutely forbid it especially if he was older than me. I could be in my 40s having a 26 year old daughter. Ah I understand your viewpoint but disagree. 18 is the age of adulthood and you need to let adults make their own decisions. I personally don't see the problem. If two people OF AGE decide they love each other and want to be together, who are we to decide for them what is right or wrong? Sheesh. There are many more important things in life to worry about than the age of two consenting adults...
LeroyJose Posted February 20, 2009 Posted February 20, 2009 I guess there's nothing wrong with your bonding (allow me to call it this way for now.) As what you've said, you're more into "ride the current" ,no directions yet, purely getting to know each other. So, getting to know each other should involve opening yourself to her regarding your interests, hobbies, faves yadi yadi yada yada.. and so does she. You're from different generations and use those gaps to your advantage. Fill in those gaps by the exchange of information between the both of you. You can try it.. Hope it works..
lord alfred douglas Posted February 20, 2009 Posted February 20, 2009 Ah I understand your viewpoint but disagree. 18 is the age of adulthood and you need to let adults make their own decisions. I personally don't see the problem. If two people OF AGE decide they love each other and want to be together, who are we to decide for them what is right or wrong? Sheesh. There are many more important things in life to worry about than the age of two consenting adults... I agree with Chris 250 Of course it can't be against the law but its totally in bad taste. Id have a hard time respecting a guy whos 51 who dates a 26 y/o sorry if that offends
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