chris250 Posted February 14, 2009 Posted February 14, 2009 Yes dating is a business/customer service. A business mentality is necessary in dating. Most things in life involve a business mentality/relationship. Therefore a man needs to be willing to sign away his rights to be in a relationship. The doormat act is necessary when dealing with customers as it is with dating women That's why I wear a suit & tie on the 1st date. It's my job interview. She's the customer and therefore it's in her hands to hire me. I'm the seller. I would think that women would be more concerned about me standing up for them when someone else attacks them. It's more important for a man to stand up for his girlfriend than standing up TO his girlfriend. Just like I stand up for my customers in the workplace when another co-worker is acting unprofessional I will stand up for my girlfriend when someone talks bad about her. I will always take the customer's side/girlfriend's side over everybody else. If my friends come to me with complaints about her I don't want to hear them. So yes there is a time to take a stand in the workplace but it's standing up to others who are hurting customer service. I'm willing to sell my customers my product at a very cheap price.
dreamergrl Posted February 14, 2009 Posted February 14, 2009 I'm willing to sell my customers my product at a very cheap price. :lmao::lmao: Do they have to pay on return shipping?
zenith Posted February 14, 2009 Posted February 14, 2009 I'm willing to sell my customers my product at a very cheap price. so... you're a man-whore now?????
dreamergrl Posted February 14, 2009 Posted February 14, 2009 Why are you telling us this, Chris? I'm wondering why we keep reading it .. I went out with a doormat this week (one that openly admitted it, and I started wondering if it was Chris
JamesM Posted February 14, 2009 Posted February 14, 2009 Yes dating is a business/customer service. A business mentality is necessary in dating. Most things in life involve a business mentality/relationship. This is actually true. When we date, we need to remember to be courteous and pleasant in the same way we would to customers. Therefore a man needs to be willing to sign away his rights to be in a relationship. The doormat act is necessary when dealing with customers as it is with dating women No, this part is not true. A man and a woman need to be "on their best behavior" and treat the other with kindness. I am not sure where you get that only guys need to be this way. BUT...having said that, we also need to learn to be our normal self around each other. If we cannot be that way, then the person we are dating is not the one for marriage. That's why I wear a suit & tie on the 1st date. It's my job interview. She's the customer and therefore it's in her hands to hire me. I'm the seller. True. Yet I don't think you need a suit and tie. There are many job interviews where a suit would be out of place. For instance, if you interviewed to be a construction worker, then a suit would make you appear unqualified. This is a good attitude. The women you date should feel that way, too. Part of the problem is that after we get married, we become "normal." and if our partner never saw us as normal, then we are marrying a different person than expected. I would think that women would be more concerned about me standing up for them when someone else attacks them. It's more important for a man to stand up for his girlfriend than standing up TO his girlfriend. Yes and no. Yet a woman determines how strong her man is by how well he can handle her as well. I let my then GF (now wife) "walk all over me" at first when we dated...or at least it seemed that way to me. After a breakup and a get back together again, I became myself. Because of this our relationship improved alot. How can a woman expect her bf to stand up to someone who intimidates her if he cannot even stand up to HER? I will always take the customer's side/girlfriend's side over everybody else. If my friends come to me with complaints about her I don't want to hear them. Loyalty is good, but blind loyalty is dangerous. For example, if your friends tell you that your gf is sleeping around, and you ignore them, then it may lead to a life of pain and turmoil. It would be advisable to listen to those known as your trusted friends when they have some criticisms that are given in obvious concern for your welfare. So yes there is a time to take a stand in the workplace but it's standing up to others who are hurting customer service. No, because the COMPANY needs to survive, too. Giving away the profits and losing may make one customer happy for the moment, but in the long run you damage the company and the good relationship with the customer. So it is with a relationship with a woman. Standing up to her when it is necessary may actually be much better for the long term relationship than if you "gave in to her." I'm willing to sell my customers my product at a very cheap price. There is a saying..."You get what you pay for."
Kamille Posted February 14, 2009 Posted February 14, 2009 Therefore a man needs to be willing to sign away his rights to be in a relationship. The doormat act is necessary when dealing with customers as it is with dating women That's why I wear a suit & tie on the 1st date. It's my job interview. She's the customer and therefore it's in her hands to hire me. I'm the seller. There are different kinds of customer service. Here you sound like a call centre employee, passively receiving complaints. If you really want to borrow on customer serive, you should conceive of yourself as a salesman: great salesman aren't doormats; they believe in their products. They taunt and tease the undecided customers, making the customer feel that in the end the choice is theirs, but that they might be missing out if they pass on an opportunity.
BCCA Posted February 14, 2009 Posted February 14, 2009 Chris, I'm going to lay it out for you... Dont you think its a tad ridiculous to give out your 'advice' when youre single and dont meet anyone? Do you think maybe, just MAYBE this philosiphy of yours is part of the reason for your lack of success with women?
chrislovestosurf Posted February 14, 2009 Posted February 14, 2009 Chris, I think Dreamergrl has a crush on you.
dreamergrl Posted February 14, 2009 Posted February 14, 2009 Chris, I think Dreamergrl has a crush on you. Dreamergrl thinks .. Um oh h3ll no.
socialight Posted February 14, 2009 Posted February 14, 2009 gee, and all this time I thought we were supposed to start a first date by reciting "bitch better have my money" from I'm Gonna Get You Sucka.
Geishawhelk Posted February 14, 2009 Posted February 14, 2009 gee, and all this time I thought we were supposed to start a first date by reciting "bitch better have my money" from I'm Gonna Get You Sucka. You know, much as I hate that kind of thing, I'd still warm more to this approach than to Mr Amorous's here.....
Author chris250 Posted February 14, 2009 Author Posted February 14, 2009 The customer is always right. Therefore the woman you date is always right. Never a good idea to tell your girlfriend that she's wrong. That would be like telling the customer they are wrong. Yes even if your customer is being rude to you do not retaliate or she will create a lot of trouble for you! In this sense yes you would need to put on a doormat act in exchange for quality customer service. No my customers do not have to pay shipping and handling. This keeps them wanting to come back for more goods. To charge ridiculously expensive fees will drive them away.
wuggle Posted February 14, 2009 Posted February 14, 2009 Chris, have you ever seen those books in stores like "100 worst road signs" or "50 worst caravan wheels" ? I think you should write a book entitled "100 crappy pieces of advice" you would make a furtune. Stop giving this sh*t away and sell it.
Enema Posted February 14, 2009 Posted February 14, 2009 If the customer is always right, why do you ignore all the women here that say your dating strategy is pathetic?
sand26 Posted February 14, 2009 Posted February 14, 2009 If the customer is always right, why do you ignore all the women here that say your dating strategy is pathetic? Exactly. Chris, stop posting all your rules and guides and start listening to your fellow loveshackers advice.
Author chris250 Posted February 14, 2009 Author Posted February 14, 2009 If the customer is always right, why do you ignore all the women here that say your dating strategy is pathetic? Because the women here encourage men to stand up to them. I think that's wrong. The women are basically incriminating themselves by saying "we're not always right." That's pretty stupid. If I as a customer am not interested in the product you are selling I don't expect you to show your face on my doorstep ever again. That would tell me that you can't take no for an answer. That's a sign of weakness. You would be a nuisance salesman. It's the same thing when I sell myself to women. I don't try to persuade them to buy my product. I take no for an answer.
anne1707 Posted February 14, 2009 Posted February 14, 2009 Because the women here encourage men to stand up to them. I think that's wrong. The women are basically incriminating themselves by saying "we're not always right." That's pretty stupid. . So the customer is not always right then?
dreamergrl Posted February 14, 2009 Posted February 14, 2009 Because the women here encourage men to stand up to them. I think that's wrong. The women are basically incriminating themselves by saying "we're not always right." That's pretty stupid. If I as a customer am not interested in the product you are selling I don't expect you to show your face on my doorstep ever again. That would tell me that you can't take no for an answer. That's a sign of weakness. You would be a nuisance salesman. It's the same thing when I sell myself to women. I don't try to persuade them to buy my product. I take no for an answer. I bet if you stopped showing up at this store, you wouldn't have to worry about having this product shown to you anymore
blondesmiler Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 Yes dating is a business/customer service. A business mentality is necessary in dating. Most things in life involve a business mentality/relationship. Therefore a man needs to be willing to sign away his rights to be in a relationship. The doormat act is necessary when dealing with customers as it is with dating women That's why I wear a suit & tie on the 1st date. It's my job interview. She's the customer and therefore it's in her hands to hire me. I'm the seller. I would think that women would be more concerned about me standing up for them when someone else attacks them. It's more important for a man to stand up for his girlfriend than standing up TO his girlfriend. Just like I stand up for my customers in the workplace when another co-worker is acting unprofessional I will stand up for my girlfriend when someone talks bad about her. I will always take the customer's side/girlfriend's side over everybody else. If my friends come to me with complaints about her I don't want to hear them. So yes there is a time to take a stand in the workplace but it's standing up to others who are hurting customer service. I'm willing to sell my customers my product at a very cheap price. Cool, then I'd like a complete refund for the total lack of service and also all the faultly goods that have been delivered and for the goods not received.
tincanman99 Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 Suit and tie for a first date? Please. I wear one every day in NYC and no one will care you have one on. They are as common as dirt. You wont stand out or be impressive, you will just be another "suit" in Manhattan. In California if you wear a suit in the valley they will think you are just uptight guy from the east coast. You wont win any browny points. Get a grip on yourself. Second, no woman I know wants a doormat. Dont kid yourself. They want you to have your own opinions, ideas and attitude. The last thing they want is a male image of themselves. Its not about customer service, its about being yourself and clicking with the other person. Women want a guy that is fun, confident, make them laugh and will show them a good time.
Woggle Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 Now I know why I never did well in costumer service jobs, I am shocked that I got through my job a s asupermarket cashier back in the day without killing somebody. If you want to be a doormat for women fine with me but I have more respect for myself than that.
Author chris250 Posted February 16, 2009 Author Posted February 16, 2009 Suit and tie for a first date? Please. I wear one every day in NYC and no one will care you have one on. They are as common as dirt. You wont stand out or be impressive, you will just be another "suit" in Manhattan. In California if you wear a suit in the valley they will think you are just uptight guy from the east coast. You wont win any browny points. Get a grip on yourself. Second, no woman I know wants a doormat. Dont kid yourself. They want you to have your own opinions, ideas and attitude. The last thing they want is a male image of themselves. Its not about customer service, its about being yourself and clicking with the other person. Women want a guy that is fun, confident, make them laugh and will show them a good time. No woman wants a man who is so self righteous that he thinks he's God's gift to women. There is a such thing as overconfidence. What you define as confidence I see as self righteousness. Self righteousness will push women away faster than self loathing behavior. It's better for a man to see himself as inferior to women than superior to women. I have never claimed to be God's gift to women.
Author chris250 Posted February 16, 2009 Author Posted February 16, 2009 So the customer is not always right then? Customer is always right. It's just apparent that some customers here are not aware of their rights. They are not aware that it doesn't matter how you talk to the salesperson they still need to put your needs first.
Author chris250 Posted February 16, 2009 Author Posted February 16, 2009 By the way I don't think women necessarily want a man who has his own opinion about things. If she has low interest level in him then she's not going to value his opinion in the first place. If she doesn't value his opinion then she won't care whether he has an opinion or not so why should he risk giving his opinion? For me I don't think it's a good idea to give my opinion during a discussion during my dates because more than likely she may react with a "who asked you?" attitude. I think it's just basic manners and class not to give my opinion unless I'm asked for it. Here on a message board it's ok to give one's opinion since presumably everyone is looking for opinions on situations in their life.
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