zhsoj Posted February 9, 2009 Posted February 9, 2009 I'm glad you see the cruelty of what he said. As for me, it's not personal at all. I'm just hoping to shed some light for Kashmir as to why he's having such a hard time. He has a lot to learn from this situation - and particularly HIS REACTION - if he wants to. He just refuses to listen. Well I do see the cruelty of his words, however you misunderstood me. I said that most guys can attest to the cruelty of the action. The action not being the words he spoke, but rather her indiscretion. Like I said before, I weigh actions far heavier than words. Also... Honestly, read your last paragraph. "He just refuses to listen" and "As for me, it's not personal at all". Do you really not see how your posts here couldn't be seen as being personally motivated?
zenith Posted February 9, 2009 Posted February 9, 2009 What?? :o That made no sense. I'm glad you understood
Star Gazer Posted February 9, 2009 Posted February 9, 2009 Also... Honestly, read your last paragraph. "He just refuses to listen" and "As for me, it's not personal at all". Do you really not see how your posts here couldn't be seen as being personally motivated? No, I don't. I don't know why you think it's personal... it's totally not. He refuses to listen to any constructive advice, only those who coddle him. I'm not the girl, haven't been in her shoes... not sure how you think it's personal? *shrug*
underpants Posted February 9, 2009 Posted February 9, 2009 Kash, What I took from this is a wash. She liked you and you wanted to keep your options open. Opening hand if you will. She sensed this and kissed some other dude. After you communicated your desire to want to see other people. She may have done this because she gave up on the idea of you two as a couple, or maybe to try to make you jealous (stupid), or maybe she likes the other guy better. However, motives are silly. She liked you and you blew the chance at a relationship with her because you wanted to keep your options open. That is the bottom line. She may not have been deserving of that relationship. You both will never know. Hurt and insecurities were cast on both sides as far as I see.
zhsoj Posted February 9, 2009 Posted February 9, 2009 No, I don't. I don't know why you think it's personal... it's totally not. He refuses to listen to any constructive advice, only those who coddle him. I'm not the girl, haven't been in her shoes... not sure how you think it's personal? *shrug* I should let this go, but I think too highly of you to do so. You say "He refuses to listen to any constructive advice, only those who coddle him" while taking up an argumentative position. You don't see how that smells of being a personal attack in the light of your other posts here in this thread? This isn't the first time I've seen you take up an argumentative position with Kashmir with apparently little regard as to what he said. Instead you have a tendency to jump on him as quickly and as harshly as you can. Maybe you see this as a form of tough love, unfortunately it is also very nearly the definition of the argumentum ad hominem. You don't have to be THE girl for this to be personal. While none of what I have seen has been blatantly personal, the tone that is conveyed with lines such as "He just refuses to listen" most certainly reeks of it. This is meant to be constructive. If you honestly think that your positions as of late against Kashmir were in fact not personal, then I'm not going to convince you otherwise. I would however hope that you be a little more reserved and take into consideration how your posts could be interpreted as being an argumentum ad hominem.
Star Gazer Posted February 9, 2009 Posted February 9, 2009 This isn't the first time I've seen you take up an argumentative position with Kashmir with apparently little regard as to what he said. Instead you have a tendency to jump on him as quickly and as harshly as you can. This is meant to be constructive. If you honestly think that your positions as of late against Kashmir were in fact not personal, then I'm not going to convince you otherwise. I would however hope that you be a little more reserved and take into consideration how your posts could be interpreted as being an argumentum ad hominem. I think what you perceive as personal is merely a coincidence. I "jump" on him because his attitude leaves much to be desired. If he were someone else, I'd be responding the same exact way. Stick around, and you'll see just that from me. I promise.
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