dreamergrl Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 So last night I was watching 17 and counting. For those of you who never heard of it, it's about a family with 17 kids (actually 18 now), and they are quite religious. The oldest one had gotten engaged and married. Their first kiss was at the alter. This boy (and obviously girl too) believes in waiting until then to share a kiss. Now, I don't come down on those with different beliefs then my own... but holy cow! No kissing until marriage? His mom makes a comment saying "I hope this inspires others to wait until marriage to share the first kiss". I personally would have a hard time waiting to have sex until getting married, I can't imagine waiting for that kiss!
reservoirdog1 Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 Hell, no sex until marriage (or within the first couple of months) would be a complete deal breaker for me. But no kissing? If a woman believes that, she shouldn't even bother approaching me.
kashmir Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 I heard somewhere that some couples don't even look at each other until they reach the alter.
Star Gazer Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 Not kissing until marriage = craziest thing I've ever heard of. Truly.
Enema Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 The frightening thing about these fundamental religious families is that they invariably have large numbers of offspring. My brother is the same way, he has 6 children because they're using "Catholic" contraception. (If god wants them to stop having kids, he'll take care of it!) Then, they pass their beliefs onto their children and so-on, and so-on. Their ideology spreads through reproduction. Theology is a disease.
Author dreamergrl Posted January 27, 2009 Author Posted January 27, 2009 Even though some of them are twins and what not, I still could not imagine having 18 kids. Then having 18 kids running around saying, no kissing until marriage! I started watching it because I like Jon and Kate plus 8, but she's only given birth twice, just in sets of multiples, and isn't getting knocked up every year. I wonder how this family of 20 survived before t.v. aired them, because that's the only way I can think of feeding, clothing, and all for that many people. I'm also curious if one of those kids has sex before marriage, what kind of reaction the family would have.
Cherry Blossom 35 Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 I know a guy who didn't TOUCH his fiance until he got married. They wouldn't lay on the couch together to watch a movie, he didn't hold her hand or give her long lingering hugs....totally wacked! He is an orthodox jew, btw.
Author dreamergrl Posted January 27, 2009 Author Posted January 27, 2009 I know a guy who didn't TOUCH his fiance until he got married. They wouldn't lay on the couch together to watch a movie, he didn't hold her hand or give her long lingering hugs....totally wacked! He is an orthodox jew, btw. See, how can you know if someone is the one if you can't find out if there's good intimacy?
39388 Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 I wouldn't have to worry about how far into a relationship I should first kiss a woman. One positive! Focus on the positive because this rule would have about a million negatives.
D-Lish Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 Even though some of them are twins and what not, I still could not imagine having 18 kids. Then having 18 kids running around saying, no kissing until marriage! I started watching it because I like Jon and Kate plus 8, but she's only given birth twice, just in sets of multiples, and isn't getting knocked up every year. I wonder how this family of 20 survived before t.v. aired them, because that's the only way I can think of feeding, clothing, and all for that many people. I'm also curious if one of those kids has sex before marriage, what kind of reaction the family would have. Imagine how ruined Kate's vagina is.... no wonder she is nasty all the time.
Author dreamergrl Posted January 27, 2009 Author Posted January 27, 2009 :lmao:Imagine how ruined Kate's vagina is.... no wonder she is nasty all the time. But only two births, so how can this other mom who has had waaaay more, be so overly chipper? Her goods have to be way more beat up.
Trialbyfire Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 I'm also curious if one of those kids has sex before marriage, what kind of reaction the family would have. Based on their contraceptive style, they would be welcoming the next generation!
BobSacamento Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 Lets be totally honest, the only requirement these deranged people have is making sure the woman is completely subservient to the husband.
Ocean-Blue Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 Holy cow! I can't imagine depriving yourself of that simple pleasure. But I have to be honest, as a little conservative child, I used to think kissing was bad. I wanted to wait until marriage for that.
fishtaco Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 I went to a friend's wedding. First the priest delivered a scathing sermon about the evils of this godless generation, with many of his godless friends who came out to share his celebration in the audience. Then proclaimed they shouldn't love each other, because they should love god only, god allowed them to wed. Then finally he got to kiss the bride... oh wait... they can't kiss... hug the bride. The reception consisted of church singing and watching slide shows of how he and his new bride found god. I wasn't sure if I was going to make it out alive, being a godless infidel, and I didn't touch the apple sauce.
Ocean-Blue Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 I went to a friend's wedding. First the priest delivered a scathing sermon about the evils of this godless generation, with many of his godless friends who came out to share his celebration in the audience. Then proclaimed they shouldn't love each other, because they should love god only, god allowed them to wed. Then finally he got to kiss the bride... oh wait... they can't kiss... hug the bride. The reception consisted of church singing and watching slide shows of how he and his new bride found god. I wasn't sure if I was going to make it out alive, being a godless infidel, and I didn't touch the apple sauce. :lmao:
SoulSearch_CO Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 Imagine how ruined Kate's vagina is.... no wonder she is nasty all the time. LOL...I'm pretty sure she probably had c-sections both times. That's USUALLY how it goes with multiples, but I'm not positive on how common it is with twins. But I agree -she can be downright nasty. I saw the one tonight where they had a yard sale at the church and she was freaking out about the tables, then the signs, then the table coverings.
lovelorcet Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 Theology is a disease. It really is... And this is just another example of how absurd it is...
Author dreamergrl Posted January 27, 2009 Author Posted January 27, 2009 LOL...I'm pretty sure she probably had c-sections both times. That's USUALLY how it goes with multiples, but I'm not positive on how common it is with twins. But I agree -she can be downright nasty. I saw the one tonight where they had a yard sale at the church and she was freaking out about the tables, then the signs, then the table coverings. Did you see the one where they all went to make cupcakes after church? The kids weren't allowed to eat anything. I still love that show though, at least they aren't telling everyone "don't kiss before marriage"
carhill Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 she <Kate> can be downright nasty. I saw the one tonight where they had a yard sale at the church and she was freaking out about the tables, then the signs, then the table coverings. Yeah, you probably saw her cleaning the fridge in their new house in a recent episode. I thought she was going to go 5150 on that one. Total germaphobe. It was like she had found Hoffa's body in there :D Good thing Jon is so laid back. On-topic, my wife watches that show on the Duggars. Suffice it to say I think they're wound up a bit tight. Makes for good alternative (to the Springer-style reality shows) TV I guess. Different strokes for different folks.
movingonandon Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 1) God loves you and you will burn in hell 2) Sex is a horrible, horrible thing and you should save it for someone you truly love
sid3 Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 or God hates me and yet I will still never see hell. sex is dirty, intercourse is only intended to enlarge the size of the parish. and if you don't give a complete 10% of what you make to the church, all I can say is boy it's going to be hot down there, dress apropriately! This thread has inspired me to ask the next batch of Jehovah's that come to my door about kissing before marriage. Provided they are the same cuties that have been canvasing my neighborhood these last few days.
Author dreamergrl Posted January 28, 2009 Author Posted January 28, 2009 or God hates me and yet I will still never see hell. sex is dirty, intercourse is only intended to enlarge the size of the parish. and if you don't give a complete 10% of what you make to the church, all I can say is boy it's going to be hot down there, dress apropriately! This thread has inspired me to ask the next batch of Jehovah's that come to my door about kissing before marriage. Provided they are the same cuties that have been canvasing my neighborhood these last few days. I had a friend in that religion. No sex before marriage, and most of the time dates were accompanied by another person to resist temptation. Oh, and divorce is highly frowned upon, as well as marriage outside the religion.
Trialbyfire Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 I can respect people if their religious beliefs stop them from having sex before marriage. I have difficulty respecting people who are hypocritical, in that they use it as a weapon or foist it on everyone else.
sid3 Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 Well I've never heard of 'no kissing until your married'. A few days ago I would have been surprised, now that I've recently had my own brush with 'until marriage' nothing surprises me. I can't imagine dating someone and not being able to kiss them. Even though I wait until the third, fourth or fifth date, I just can't imagine marrying someone and not knowing what it's like to kiss them. It seems like some people take religion way to extreme. Just as the radicals use it as an excuse for their hatred and murder, the extremist use it to manipulate, serve their own agendas and often negatively impact the lives of others. I suddenly feel like going to church and find out just what they are putting in the kool aid. Both wack jobs that were waiting until marriage that I had this misfortune of geting to know are both known to frequently miss actually going to church for the lamest excuses as to why. Maybe the normal religuous people do go to church and the uber pyschos figure since they're cramming it down everyone else throats all week long, they don't need to go on Sundays. Just a thought
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