chris250 Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 What rights do you think men should have in a relationship? Do you think they have no rights? Do you think they should not have as much of a right to end the relationship at anytime for any reason as women should? Should a man even think about dating if he's not willing to give up all his personal rights? That is his right to hang out with his friends, go to the bars, have free time alone? Well that's how I feel. If I got in a serious relationship right now let alone marriage I would not have any rights. I would not even have a right to sex. I would be required to have sex on the woman's terms only. What say you? should I even think about dating if I want to keep my freedom?
likestolaugh Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 umm... are you into the whole dominatrix thing by any chance?
alphamale Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 Well that's how I feel. If I got in a serious relationship right now let alone marriage I would not have any rights. I would not even have a right to sex. I would be required to have sex on the woman's terms only. What say you? should I even think about dating if I want to keep my freedom? you should go to the doctor and get your testosterone levels checked along with a full thyroid workup (T1, T2, T3 & TSH)... this could be medically based
Isolde Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 you should go to the doctor and get your testosterone levels checked along with a full thyroid workup (T1, T2, T3 & TSH)... this could be medically based :lmao:
dreamergrl Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 you should go to the doctor and get your testosterone levels checked along with a full thyroid workup (T1, T2, T3 & TSH)... this could be medically based hahahahaha :lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:
JennaGennaro Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 Chris, we are all not like that. I, personally, have always hated those women who want nothing than to fix up a man to their own specifications. I have always been of the belief that when I was dating a man (now happily married) that this guy has been dressing himself and making decisions for himself 20+ years before I came along and who the hell am I to tell him how to dress, what to eat, who he can be friends with, so on and so forth? And I am probably in the minority, but I do not even make my husband put the toilet seat down. We both use it, why should HE be the one that has to do something special with it. I also do not tell my husband how to spend his money. He knows what bills he has to pay, if he can't afford to buy something, he is responsible and won't spend foolishly. The only thing I really did not like that my husband did (when he was my BF) was when he went to Las Vegas for work and would go to strip clubs. I hated that, and expressed it. I am not a prude, but those strip clubs just disgust me. I just dealt with it and it is not like it happened again. I know some are reading this and saying "yeah right," but I have a very trustworthy man and it is partly because he was that way when I met him and partly because I have not tried to emasculate him as some women do with their men. So I hope you won't become bitter towards all women. There are good ones out there, but it doesn't always happen over night. And to answer your other question, I believe you should have just as many rights as the woman. It should be shared 50/50.
zenith Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 you should go to the doctor and get your testosterone levels checked along with a full thyroid workup (T1, T2, T3 & TSH)... this could be medically based you only need to test for TSH initially... then IF something is wrong, fT3/fT4...since the free forms indicate active thyroid hormone levels in the body
fishtaco Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 If you're a doormat it's your own fault, not the woman's.
peteyj Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 It's more about who you are rather than what rights you might lose. Yeah a lot of guys are doormats. But then again a lot of females are in miserable relationships. While it's true you can't do the same things you did when you were single all the time, especially when you have kids, you still can go out and have a life of your own. You will have to spend time together, but spending 100 percent of your time doing whatever your spouse wants means you have no self esteem and you dont' think much of yourself and you're a doormat.
Author chris250 Posted January 27, 2009 Author Posted January 27, 2009 Once I'm ready to give control of my life over to a woman then I'll get married.
Trialbyfire Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 should I even think about dating if I want to keep my freedom? My advice to you is to stop dating. Women are scary monsters. Don't get involved!
Author chris250 Posted January 27, 2009 Author Posted January 27, 2009 I'll be too old for the military to take me by the time I want someone else to control my life. So why not pursue marriage by that point?
dreamergrl Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 My advice to you is to stop dating. Women are scary monsters. Don't get involved! Yeah... women are evil. They will do nothing but lock you in a cellar and bring you stale toast (maybe some old butter on it if you're lucky) so you can never ever ever never again leave the house. Oh wait... maybe that is a positive thing for you. Hey OP, you mentioned in your other thread that your religion does not allow own free will anyways.
BikerBeagle Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 Well, this comes to mind - "You have the right to remain silent ...You have the right to an attorney ...anything you say can, and will, be used against you."
Surfer Dude Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 I suppose you're one of those guys who claim they can't get a gf because girls don't like nice guys? Maybe it's best that misogynist men stay away from women.
Lishy Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 Yup Chris that is right, when you are with a woman you must do as you are told and speak only when spoken to! BJ's will happen once a year and you will put up with it ok? Sex is purely at the womans discretion and you will wear what she wants you to wear and never see your friends again. You will have your monthly pay paid straight into her bank account and get some 'pocket money' at her discretion and when she sees fit to hand it over. Your power drill must be charged at all times so that any emergency bookshelves can be put up at any time of day and you will be her human dishwasher! Only when you are willing to put up with the above shall you be ready to commit to the far superior sex!
Author chris250 Posted January 28, 2009 Author Posted January 28, 2009 Sorry but I cannot take advice seriously from posters who think I'm not worthy to be in a relationship.
JennaGennaro Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 "Sorry but I cannot take advice seriously from posters who think I'm not worthy to be in a relationship." I think you need to stay away from dating and women all together for a while. Just about every day you start some crazy thread with some new idea (friends with benefits without sex, etc), when there are COUNTLESS people out here who are trying to give you the cold, hard facts. I don't understand your hangups with women are, but they are not all out to run your life. Perhaps it is YOU who needs to change. Maybe it is YOU that is attracting this kind of woman. Maybe you don't have any real problems and are just messing with us? Maybe you should become a monk and then you won't have any problems with women at all. I don't know. I give up!! And, yeah, there are people here who are not taking yourself seriously and, frankly, why should they? You don't listen, so why should they try and offer advice. So you should not be surprised by the people that reply with sarcasm. I am done trying to give you some good advice because you do not seem to listen to what people have to say - you just complain more. You remind me of my brother who goes looking for advice, but doesn't really want it - he just wants to tell his story. I will be sure to avoid your posts in the future.
chrislovestosurf Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 What rights do you think men should have in a relationship? Do you think they have no rights? Do you think they should not have as much of a right to end the relationship at anytime for any reason as women should? Should a man even think about dating if he's not willing to give up all his personal rights? That is his right to hang out with his friends, go to the bars, have free time alone? Well that's how I feel. If I got in a serious relationship right now let alone marriage I would not have any rights. I would not even have a right to sex. I would be required to have sex on the woman's terms only. What say you? should I even think about dating if I want to keep my freedom? He is right, actually. Us men really do forfeit our rights to do what we want when we get seriously involved. Have to disagree on the "ALL your personal rights" claim though. You still should be able to have maybe 1 hobby, 2 if you are lucky.
JennaGennaro Posted January 29, 2009 Posted January 29, 2009 "Us men really do forfeit our rights to do what we want when we get seriously involved." Pfff, you guys are meeting the wrong women then.
Author chris250 Posted January 29, 2009 Author Posted January 29, 2009 "Sorry but I cannot take advice seriously from posters who think I'm not worthy to be in a relationship." I think you need to stay away from dating and women all together for a while. Just about every day you start some crazy thread with some new idea (friends with benefits without sex, etc), when there are COUNTLESS people out here who are trying to give you the cold, hard facts. I don't understand your hangups with women are, but they are not all out to run your life. Perhaps it is YOU who needs to change. Maybe it is YOU that is attracting this kind of woman. Maybe you don't have any real problems and are just messing with us? Maybe you should become a monk and then you won't have any problems with women at all. I don't know. I give up!! And, yeah, there are people here who are not taking yourself seriously and, frankly, why should they? You don't listen, so why should they try and offer advice. So you should not be surprised by the people that reply with sarcasm. I am done trying to give you some good advice because you do not seem to listen to what people have to say - you just complain more. You remind me of my brother who goes looking for advice, but doesn't really want it - he just wants to tell his story. I will be sure to avoid your posts in the future. Well you have just proven that you do not have my best interests at heart. I don't take advice seriously from people who just want an ego boost. You are just upset because I disagree with the advice you have given. And no I don't hold anything you say in high regard when you think I'm not just as worthy to be in a relationship as anyone else. Unless I'm a hardened crimminal then there's no harm in me dating. So I don't care if you are done giving me advice. I didn't force you to read the threads. I have just as much of a right to pursue dating as anyone else. Discouraging me from dating is not constructive advice.
chrislovestosurf Posted January 29, 2009 Posted January 29, 2009 "Us men really do forfeit our rights to do what we want when we get seriously involved." Pfff, you guys are meeting the wrong women then. This is probably true.
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