You'reasian Posted January 26, 2009 Posted January 26, 2009 Would a woman be weirded out if they found out that i was carrying a gun. Its very uncommon for me to be out of the house and not have a gun on my person. Ive carried one since i was old enough to. Also, i live in Georgia where probbaly 1 in 5 people have a gun on themselves. I was just talking to a female friend of mine the other day and somehow it came in conversation that i was carrying a gun and she became very nervous. If a date found out about it would she freak out? I carry it on the inside of my pants and it is not in plain sight, you couldn't see it if you were looking for it. A woman's reaction would depend on alot of things: 1. There own personal view of the right to bear arms. 2. Your profession: does it legitimately require you to have it? 3. Whether you live in a conceal/carry state. 4. Whether she carries a concealed weapon. Seeing you live in Georgia, I would imagine atleast half of the women you'd encounter would be ok with it, if 3 out of 4 of the above check out. I would love to bring my woman to a range and get her accquainted with firing.
You'reasian Posted January 26, 2009 Posted January 26, 2009 Yeah that makes your country great really. Lots of child victims. Kids that get a gun to shoot their nanny. School massacres. Great country! People with guns are sad, I would never ever date someone who has one. Not freaked out with it, I just don't see why people would carry one. People carry guns for different reasons in countries that allow them to be carried legally. People carry guns for self-defense. Some carry it to enforce law. Others carry them for power.
kashmir Posted January 26, 2009 Posted January 26, 2009 I love it when the Europeans come in and trash America for our laws and politics. They HATE the thought that we saved their asses numerous times (or some of them feel guilty for starting wars that were far deadlier and more destructive than our wars in Iraq or Vietnam ever were), thus they feel the need to belittle America as much as possible to satisfy their insecurities.
Joyvke Posted January 26, 2009 Posted January 26, 2009 I love it when the Europeans come in and trash America for our laws and politics. They HATE the thought that we saved their asses numerous times (or some of them feel guilty for starting wars that were far deadlier and more destructive than our wars in Iraq or Vietnam ever were), thus they feel the need to belittle America as much as possible to satisfy their insecurities. I made a proper reply, but then realised I couldn't be arsed. I doubt we HATE the thought you guys helped us when we needed it. I doubt we feel guilty for starting wars. People who start or participate in wars are sad people. Willing to kill one another. Same goes with carrying a gun. I find those people sad. I know not every American is sad. Just the comment of "Yeah take that whiney Europeans", just cause we don't carry guns, nor have some rule that allows it is just as belittling. But ofcourse, that's all normal to say right. After all we're "just" Europeans.
Cherry Blossom 35 Posted January 26, 2009 Posted January 26, 2009 I would seriously wonder why the man felt the need to protect himself at all times by carrying a gun. I can understand having a gun in the home for self-defense, but honestly, I would think that you are paranoid. Paranoid and somewhat obsessed by violence. I'm not saying you are a violent person. I am saying that you must think about it a lot, and you must see many daily activities as potentially life threatening. That would scare me.
lovestruck818 Posted January 26, 2009 Posted January 26, 2009 I think weirded out is an understatement- I would be freakin' terrified.
kashmir Posted January 26, 2009 Posted January 26, 2009 I made a proper reply, but then realised I couldn't be arsed. I doubt we HATE the thought you guys helped us when we needed it. I doubt we feel guilty for starting wars. People who start or participate in wars are sad people. Willing to kill one another. Same goes with carrying a gun. I find those people sad. I know not every American is sad. Just the comment of "Yeah take that whiney Europeans", just cause we don't carry guns, nor have some rule that allows it is just as belittling. But ofcourse, that's all normal to say right. After all we're "just" Europeans. Some people carry guns for bad reasons. Other people carry guns to protect themselves from these other people. I know if I ever got a gun, it wouldn't be to inflate my ego, intimidate people, or shoot birds off my back porch for the hell of it. It would be meant to open a last resort option in case I ever needed to use it. It's not being paranoid - it's being prepared, even if I'm just preparing for something very unlikely. Things do happen, though. My brother was nearly killed a few years ago at night time in the city. If he had a gun, he could have prevented a serious beating that was intended to kill him. If the gang that attacked him had a gun, I'm sure they would have shot him, so him having a gun wouldn't have increased the chance of himself getting shot. I agree with others, though, that always carrying a gun transcends far above being prepared and instead is being paranoid. America is different from European countries. I made my Euro-bash comment because I'm sick of hearing European people throwing statistics at us and trying to prove that their laws or culture is better. Maybe it's better for them, but they're comparing apples and oranges, IMO. If it works for you guys, great, just save your breath and don't bother preaching to us how we should run our country.
zenith Posted January 26, 2009 Posted January 26, 2009 I think Europeans are cooler than Americans and for me, Europe doesn't include British Isles
Author imstuckinatree3 Posted January 26, 2009 Author Posted January 26, 2009 I know that people have their own different views on guns. When i carry i never make it known, it defeats the point of concealing it, and stands the chance of starting commotion. Im not going to try and push my beliefs onto other people, but its sad that so many people fear guns. I would like to think that if my date did happen to find out about my gun that she would feel safer, and trust that she made the right decision that she is out with someone that would only ever use it as a last resort. The ugly truth is that times are tough and getting tougher, so the crime rate will go up, and people need to protect themselves. And not to be sexist but, women need to protect themselves. Again, not to be sexist, but women are targets. Both my mother and sister carry guns, and though they have never fired upon a person, they have had to pull them. I cant even bein to think what would have happened if they had not had a gun. So again, i know a lot of people dont agree with guns, but id like to think that a date wouldnt judge me or my personality on my carrying a gun.
Brady_to_Moss Posted January 26, 2009 Posted January 26, 2009 I would seriously wonder why the man felt the need to protect himself at all times by carrying a gun. I can understand having a gun in the home for self-defense, but honestly, I would think that you are paranoid. Paranoid and somewhat obsessed by violence. I'm not saying you are a violent person. I am saying that you must think about it a lot, and you must see many daily activities as potentially life threatening. That would scare me. Ever since i had a gun pointed in my face and thought i was going to die. i have changed..like i said before...if you were ever robbed or carjacked..you would probally consider to carry
movingonandon Posted January 26, 2009 Posted January 26, 2009 Just the comment of "Yeah take that whiney Europeans", just cause we don't carry guns, nor have some rule that allows it is just as belittling. But ofcourse, that's all normal to say right. After all we're "just" Europeans. C'mon, let's lighten up, shall we? I wish that it was acknowledged that the admittedly tongue in cheek "whiney" comment was preceded by a reasonable position on guns: I did not (do not, and will not) advocate carrying guns anywhere, but I do appreciate the opportunity to own one (and the political heritage that allows me to do so)*, although I currently do not. Yes, people die of gun irresponsible handling of guns all the time, as do people who irresponsibly handle cars. Just because a gun is not as essential to the everyday life as a car, does not automatically mean that we should outlaw them. *the oldest constitution-based regime in the world, by the way.
Surfer Dude Posted January 26, 2009 Posted January 26, 2009 Some people carry guns for bad reasons. Other people carry guns to protect themselves from these other people. America is different from European countries. I made my Euro-bash comment because I'm sick of hearing European people throwing statistics at us and trying to prove that their laws or culture is better. Maybe it's better for them, but they're comparing apples and oranges, IMO. If it works for you guys, great, just save your breath and don't bother preaching to us how we should run our country. Hey bro, don't worry about statistics, I'm sure many Europeans don't know this, but Finland has more guns than the US. I've never been to the US and I don't want to make unwarranted claims, but I'm sure we got better beer than you! I think Europeans are cooler than Americans and for me, Europe doesn't include British Isles There is Britain and there's mainland Europe. Both is Europe, geographically and culturally. Ever since i had a gun pointed in my face and thought i was going to die. i have changed..like i said before...if you were ever robbed or carjacked..you would probally consider to carry I was at a gunpoint once and made it out alive. Still don't feel a desire to carry a gun. It's just unnecessary stress.
zenith Posted January 26, 2009 Posted January 26, 2009 There is Britain and there's mainland Europe. Both is Europe, geographically and culturally. not here to argue, but as I stated earlier, I don't see Britain as part of Europe... just because they're into their own things
kashmir Posted January 26, 2009 Posted January 26, 2009 I've never been to the US and I don't want to make unwarranted claims, but I'm sure we got better beer than you! Can't argue with that.
D-Lish Posted January 26, 2009 Posted January 26, 2009 Hey bro, don't worry about statistics, I'm sure many Europeans don't know this, but Finland has more guns than the US. I've never been to the US and I don't want to make unwarranted claims, but I'm sure we got better beer than you! All the good beer in North America is imported.
Tomcat33 Posted January 26, 2009 Posted January 26, 2009 No that's not weird at all. I carry Anthrax envelopes in my purse, it is the perfect guise that way it looks like I am always taking care of business. 'cause you never know....
SoulSearch_CO Posted January 26, 2009 Posted January 26, 2009 It depends on the woman, her family life, and the area she lives. Knowing several cops that carry concealed off-duty, having had a biological father that carried concealed, and living two towns away from a town named after a weapon (hence...seriously, tons of people concealed-carry around here), and having a CCW permit myself - it's not that big of a deal to me. I'm comfortable around them, and I can understand why some people carry them. But I would have to say that for the majority of women - most likely, yes, they will freak.
mark982 Posted January 26, 2009 Posted January 26, 2009 you can be against them all you want, until one comes in very handy. then you'll never leave home without it. you honestly can't depend on the police, their over purdened. gotta take care of your self preservation.
Cherry Blossom 35 Posted January 26, 2009 Posted January 26, 2009 Ever since i had a gun pointed in my face and thought i was going to die. i have changed..like i said before...if you were ever robbed or carjacked..you would probally consider to carry I was robbed, in 1995. I was carjacked in 1993 (I did get away) . My house was broken into in 1994. I was attacked on spring break by a fellow college student on spring break in 1992. Those were some bad years, so please do NOT ASSUME, Brady to Moss. In none of those particular situations would a gun have helped me. In the first two cases I was taken by surprise. Perhaps if I were an FBI agent or trained police officer, I may have had the calm and skill to whip out a firearm, but but not in my case. Also, I was subdued in the first case by a man much stronger than myself so that would have been impossible. In the 3rd case I was not home, so that wouldn't have helped. In the last case, I had been drinking so that could have been a fatal situation for myself. I am not anti-gun, in fact I support the turn on the handgun ban in the District, where I live. The OP made some good arguments for carrying in a recent post. All I'm saying is that the fact that he straps a gun on every time he leaves the house does sound somewhat paranoid. I would wonder what would happen if I was in a car with him and another driver cut him off. I would wonder what would happen if someone cut in line in front of him at McDonald's. Again, I'm not saying that the OP is violent or that he would respond with violence. As a date, however, I would probably not know him very well. Therefore, I would not know his motives or what he is like under stress. OP, I think that perhaps you should not disclose this information right away. Let her get to know you a bit first, so that she has some knowledge about who you are in which to base her opinion.
anne1707 Posted January 26, 2009 Posted January 26, 2009 But, even so, that's one of the things that make this country great , and since when carrying a gun become a sign of insecurity? Take that whiney Euros :laugh:. . I made my Euro-bash comment because I'm sick of hearing European people throwing statistics at us and trying to prove that their laws or culture is better. Maybe it's better for them, but they're comparing apples and oranges, IMO. If it works for you guys, great, just save your breath and don't bother preaching to us how we should run our country. And I made my post about statistics because of Movingonandon's post. The country bashing started with his post saying that the USA was better than Europe.
SoulSearch_CO Posted January 26, 2009 Posted January 26, 2009 I would love to bring my woman to a range and get her accquainted with firing. How about if she's already well-acquainted with firing and quite possibly better-acquainted than you are? Would she then earn extra points for that?
You'reasian Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 How about if she's already well-acquainted with firing and quite possibly better-acquainted than you are? Would she then earn extra points for that? Hell Yeah! If she's a better shot than I am, she can teach me - but that's not hard as anyone spending years can shoot above a recently acquired lower-level sharpshooter. "That reminds me of this one time, at bootcamp...."
dreamergrl Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 Ever since i was carjacked....once i get my carry liscence,i will always carry my gun in my car Great, so the next time someone breaks into your car, they get a gun too So are hammers, screwdrivers and hacksaws, but I don't think many women would comfortable if you brought one on a date. As in, is that a screw driver in your pocket, or are you just ready to screw? You want to hammer me all night long? And I'm not going to touch the hacksaw I would seriously wonder why the man felt the need to protect himself at all times by carrying a gun. I can understand having a gun in the home for self-defense, but honestly, I would think that you are paranoid. Paranoid and somewhat obsessed by violence. I'm not saying you are a violent person. I am saying that you must think about it a lot, and you must see many daily activities as potentially life threatening. That would scare me. I agree with this, and to add, it would make me wonder why you feel the need to carry. I would ponder if you get into some bad trouble and you need to protect yourself? First date, I would wonder if you could possibly be a rapist, killer, robber, ect ect. No that's not weird at all. I carry Anthrax envelopes in my purse, it is the perfect guise that way it looks like I am always taking care of business. 'cause you never know.... There's an idea. Will you be mailing or attempting the destruction of man kind?
boldjack Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 First off, Dude, who do you think you are Wyatt F888ing Earp? Are you a cop or soldier, member of the mob? What's the point of the gun? Ive carried everything from a Tommy gun to an M-4. I have probably 30 or more firearms and have never felt the need to pack heat. I've lived in Big Cities (Chicago, San Antone, etc) and have never had to "jerk leather",I've lived in the boondocks, (West Texas, Vietnam, Cambodia, Montana, and the U.P. of Michigan) and still can't understand WHY? Does it make you feel tough, more manly or is it something spiritual, some kind of "talisman"? There are only 3 legitimate reasons for carrying a gun; 1) War 2) hunting 3) self-defense. Which of those is yours? Just carrying a gun to be carrying it is stupid, dangerous and possibly criminal. My son is a cop and HAS to carry one. My other son was a sniper in Iraq and wouldn't carry one on a bet. I served in the Army ( airborne) and don't carry one any nearer than the tool box of my P.U. I suggest you seek counseling, you are a true "gun Nut'.
You'reasian Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 I do think bringing a gun on a date isn't classy and even somewhat crazy. Trying to think outside of the box...if the original poster lived in a very troubled area with a high crime rate, it could make sense - but I can't see other circumstances warranting the carrying of one.
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