boxing123 Posted January 18, 2009 Posted January 18, 2009 Not all hot women are like the ones I described - the ones that don't grow up. Some are, but others aren't. I'm not sure what you're getting at, richguy. There's a difference between being beautiful and going on a never-ending quest to enhance your beauty with surgery, tons of make-up, etc. I often blame women on these threads for being unrealistic, but in this case I have to say young men also are. Not in a bad way, but you will see as you get a bit older. The guys that work for me are thinking they will all land beautiful women to marry, and they are repulsed by the idea that women like money. They all think women stay the same like the ones they are dating today that are 18 years old. They say the exact same thing. "Not all hot girls are like that, only gold diggers. I want a hot wife" There are not many attractive, intelligent, slender women in the USA that are drug free, balanced, have good morals,single, no kids etc. The small % that are find guys with money. Sure, maybe some rare exceptions, but in a nutshell that is what you are looking at.
belladonna Posted January 18, 2009 Posted January 18, 2009 Oh come now. You guys are depressing me! Just wanted to give the perspective of an individual 21 year old female university student. Yes, I like to party and have fun. That is what I do right now (well aside from school and work). I really *really* don't care about money. My last boyfriend was 32 and hadn't had a job in over a year, whenever we wanted to go out I didn't mind paying. We had such good times together that I will never forget. Right now in my life, I'm looking for a specific attitude that is similar to mine along with some sexy features. Obviously, emotions and intelligence are things I look for as well (a guy with soul!) but still I don't care about money, education, age or class. *shrug* maybe I'll change when I get older but this is it for now I just feel like you guys are judging women before you even know them..what happened to individuality? Am I just being naive?
bean1 Posted January 18, 2009 Posted January 18, 2009 As a mature "older" (25-28 year old) female with similar friends, I can assure you that NONE of us would ever be interested in a 20 year old male We have finished college, have careers, some are married with children - why would we want to hang out with 20 year olds? Seriously - any girl older than 25 (or even 22-23) who likes to date 20 year olds is either afraid of commitment or is quite immature herself. She certainly isn't looking for maturity!
Isolde Posted January 18, 2009 Posted January 18, 2009 I've noticed an increasing tendency on this board for people to assume that: All men with looks and/or money can have any women they want; All women with decent looks can have any guy they want. Neither statement is true!!!!!
Green Posted January 18, 2009 Posted January 18, 2009 I've noticed an increasing tendency on this board for people to assume that: All men with looks and/or money can have any women they want; All women with decent looks can have any guy they want. Neither statement is true!!!!! actually part of my belief is that women will post "Neither statement is true!!!!" me thinks after the 2nd exclemation mark the lady doth protest too much
Alma Mobley Posted January 20, 2009 Posted January 20, 2009 "rich"guy: Let me put it in terms that you young guys can understand: there's a reason the military is always trying to recruit young men 18, 19 -- because "old" 30 year old guys like me can easily see that the risks of the military are obviously not worth it. The military doesn't care about "risks" or who can weigh them -- they want young, impressionable people. They want to rip them up so they can rebuild them into something new -- a soldier. And a soldier doesn't weigh risks, a soldier follows orders. I'd say it's best to avoid women as they reach past 25 -- that's when they start to develop that knowing, experienced look that is a repellent to guys on the other side of 30. Yes, please avoid women over 30 so we can be spared your juvenile BS. Avoid us women with jobs, and degrees, so we don't have to deal with you, thanks. I LOVE younger men, but not this bitter, woman-hating type, who wants to "teach me a lesson!" Ugh. Go prey on those 17-year-olds.
Lizzie60 Posted January 20, 2009 Posted January 20, 2009 Lizzie -- I think we need to talk. Oh yeah!... I'm opened..
Alma Mobley Posted January 20, 2009 Posted January 20, 2009 Oh yeah!... I'm opened.. Damn it! I can't PM you..
RichGuy Posted January 20, 2009 Posted January 20, 2009 "rich"guy: That's the thing about "older" women, their starting assumption is that the guy sitting across the table is a lying scumbag... The military doesn't care about "risks" or who can weigh them -- they want young, impressionable people... And a soldier doesn't weigh risks, a soldier follows orders. Exactly! The military seeks out young men for the same reason that men seek out young women: they are impressionable and follow orders! "Close your eyes and open your mouth, baby..." Yes, please avoid women over 30 so we can be spared your juvenile BS. Avoid us women with jobs, and degrees, so we don't have to deal with you, thanks. Degrees and jobs are bargaining chips needed by women that already have lost the trump card of youth & beauty. Go prey on those 17-year-olds. Is your daughter single?
Alma Mobley Posted January 20, 2009 Posted January 20, 2009 That's the thing about "older" women, their starting assumption is that the guy sitting across the table is a lying scumbag... Exactly! The military seeks out young men for the same reason that men seek out young women: they are impressionable and follow orders! "Close your eyes and open your mouth, baby..." Degrees and jobs are bargaining chips needed by women that already have lost the trump card of youth & beauty. Is your daughter single? Good job on completely twisting all I was trying to say! Have you actually served? I maintain my viewpoint, however. What are you afraid of? Yes, I have a degree, and I am working on the second. That makes me somehow "unworthy" and what I say dismissed by you? Why? PS I am not old enough yet to have a daughter you could prey on, sorry!
porter218 Posted January 20, 2009 Posted January 20, 2009 I am 20 and looking for older women. Girls my age are not mature and i want to try older. Naples, Florida. women like 25-28 go than a 20 yr old Oh, never-mind. They are more like 40-45, but they do look 25-28(at night in dim light) with all that plastic surgery.
Alma Mobley Posted January 20, 2009 Posted January 20, 2009 OOOHHH YEAH those ebil women... Sorry, a bit tired, so I bid you all farewell.. And Rich, sheesh not all woman are the nighmare you make us out to me. We are all human beings -- don't forget that.
clv0116 Posted January 20, 2009 Posted January 20, 2009 I am 20 and looking for older women. Girls my age are not mature and i want to try older. I am not old enough to go to a bar or something like that but are there diffrent places women like 25-28 go than a 20 yr old? Most gyms are packed to the gills with older women vainly trying to look 15 years younger than they are. It's like shooting fish in a barrel, except you get to use dynamite. Of course those are not 25-28, more like 35-45.
RichGuy Posted January 20, 2009 Posted January 20, 2009 Good job on completely twisting all I was trying to say! Have you actually served? I did not twist anything; I speak the truth of how the world works, and deep inside you know it's true... The truth hurts, I'm sorry. My service status won't change the facts of the world either way. What are you afraid of? Uhh?? Yes, I have a degree, and I am working on the second. That makes me somehow "unworthy" and what I say dismissed by you? I didn't do either of the things that you are projecting on me. Older women just project all these negative emotions onto men, it's unbelievable... I am not old enough yet to have a daughter you could prey on, sorry! How old are you?
Alma Mobley Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 I did not twist anything; I speak the truth of how the world works, and deep inside you know it's true... The truth hurts, I'm sorry. My service status won't change the facts of the world either way. Uhh?? I didn't do either of the things that you are projecting on me. Older women just project all these negative emotions onto men, it's unbelievable... How old are you? Sorry if I misunderstood you, Richguy. I don't want to project stuff onto younger men. (I love younger men, actually.) I did ask you if you served. I am in a military family, though I did not serve. So I asked. I don't think I disparaged service, however.
Shygirl15 Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 You sound young, Brady. Just date your age. You'll be more happy this way. Older women can be complicated sometimes, we need men who are capable of handling that.
Jersey Shortie Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 Does anyone else think it's ironic that a bunch of men here complaining about how shallow (materialistic) and how bitter women are are actually showing their own shallowness and bitterness. It's not making those of you in this thread all that attractive. And I know you aren't trying to be attractive here but perhaps you should think about the kind of comments and thoughts you have of the other gender that is actually the real influence over how women react to you. If you keep telling women how awful they are, how shallow, how worthless they are after 25, please don't expect the cream of the crop to want to be with you. The irony is bashing women and telling them how shallow they are and then excusing your shallowness and bitterness. Bitterness is not attractive in men anymore then it is in men. I am in my 20s but i still want a man to love me. And I certainly don't want to be considered like I matter less because I did something as human as age. If it was up to some of the men in thsi thread, after 25, women deserve to be worthless and have no love in their life. Thank you for letting us know just how little you think of all women. Not just older ones. Because eventally those younger ladies get older too. You could always try showing respect, compasion and understanding and attempting to make a woman feel godo about herself no matter her age then trying to tear her down. And RichGuy, you know who I think you are? I think you're the guy who has always had the young sorority types attracted to your money. Why? You constantly call older women bitter and jaded...and by older women I mean ones as young as 25. Do you think instead of being bitter and jaded, they just aren't into you? Maybe because they've grown out of the phase of liking guys like you who seem to have nothing to them but money? It always seems like you're going for young girls. You say it's because they're innocent and uncorrupted like older women are, but could it be that they're just naive and don't see you in the way older women see you. Maybe they're what you can get... Many kisses and hugs to you Kashmir. I was getting really upset at the outlook of many of the guys here about women in this thread and this post alone really does show your maturity and intelligence. I think the person that gave you the advice about dating one or two years up is good. Also, you have to consider where you are hanging out and what kind of crowd it draws. There are alot of good, sexy, pretty ladies younger and older out there that don't care about money as much as you think. And still have faith that there are men out ther that will give them love and respect and will always think of them as prime rib.
Alma Mobley Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 Does anyone else think it's ironic that a bunch of men here complaining about how shallow (materialistic) and how bitter women are are actually showing their own shallowness and bitterness. It's not making those of you in this thread all that attractive. And I know you aren't trying to be attractive here but perhaps you should think about the kind of comments and thoughts you have of the other gender that is actually the real influence over how women react to you. If you keep telling women how awful they are, how shallow, how worthless they are after 25, please don't expect the cream of the crop to want to be with you. The irony is bashing women and telling them how shallow they are and then excusing your shallowness and bitterness. Bitterness is not attractive in men anymore then it is in men. I am in my 20s but i still want a man to love me. And I certainly don't want to be considered like I matter less because I did something as human as age. If it was up to some of the men in thsi thread, after 25, women deserve to be worthless and have no love in their life. Thank you for letting us know just how little you think of all women. Not just older ones. Because eventally those younger ladies get older too. You could always try showing respect, compasion and understanding and attempting to make a woman feel godo about herself no matter her age then trying to tear her down. Many kisses and hugs to you Kashmir. I was getting really upset at the outlook of many of the guys here about women in this thread and this post alone really does show your maturity and intelligence. I think the person that gave you the advice about dating one or two years up is good. Also, you have to consider where you are hanging out and what kind of crowd it draws. There are alot of good, sexy, pretty ladies younger and older out there that don't care about money as much as you think. And still have faith that there are men out ther that will give them love and respect and will always think of them as prime rib. Jersey, I kinda gave up on talking to men in this thread because of the nastiness towards women over a certain age, whether it be 21, 25 or 30. I did apologize to Richguy as I thought HE thought I was denigrating service, when I was not. However, I don't think their opinions are ALL men's opinions. They're just really, really vocal about it, esp on LS for some reason. But, it's not true. Not all men think this way, trust me!
kashmir Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 Many kisses and hugs to you Kashmir. I was getting really upset at the outlook of many of the guys here about women in this thread and this post alone really does show your maturity and intelligence. Thank you. I find that with girls that are mine and Brady's age, only the really hot ones care about money, and these are usually the girls that only have their looks going for them and are looking for someone like RichGuy to hook and support them. I worked with a girl over the summer who wasn't bright at all, but she was easily a 10 in looks. She uses her wages to go to bars nearly every night. She told me she does cocaine in order to lose weight. She goes to my school, and apparently she only passed 2 classes last year. That's ridiculously bad. She would constantly say how it's her dream to be a playboy playmate. So, in other words, she's going nowhere in life unless she hooks a rich man soon or gets a high paying job that only requires her to look good. I remember one day a guy a year or two older than me pulled in with an Audi. She apparently knew him, and she wouldn't stop talking about how awesome he was because he had an Audi. THIS is the kind of girl that wants money. If you want her, you need to have money, or have characteristics that connect you to money (preppy douchebag kind of look). This girl probably grew up with the notion that she's hot and that she doesn't need to worry about anything but her looks in order to lead a successful life. If that's your kind of girl, by all means take her, because I don't want her. I think the number of these girls are decreasing more and more as the years go by. This is because more girls are NOT being raised on the notion that they can get through life with their looks alone and that they actually need to make something of themselves. This is the independent woman, the kind that I want, and luckily they vary in looks. It's hard to weed out who's who in college. Many girls are here not to get an education, but to hook a hot and wealthy frat boy to potentially marry (though, what's kind of funny about that is many of those guys are going nowhere in life. If those girls were smart, they would try to hook an engineer or someone that's actually getting a real degree ). After college, though, hopefully those girls will go off with their guys and guys like me will enter into real careers, where we'll come into contact with just the smart, independent, and maybe even attractive women. God, I can't wait for that day, especially since I'll probably be going to work and grad school in San Francisco. The women out there have to beat the ones here in Jersey (no offense against you, JS. I'm sure there are much better men out there then the ones here in NJ also. )
BubblyPopcorn Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 Does anyone else think it's ironic that a bunch of men here complaining about how shallow (materialistic) and how bitter women are are actually showing their own shallowness and bitterness. What is also ironic is that (a) they are obsessed with being “rich” so that they can (b) "bang" chicks. Touche’
mr.dream merchant Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 Women of any age are satisfactory to the Dream Merchant, as long as she can get my rocks off. The dumb childish schoolgirls get used. The awesome women with substance get respect and relationship. Keep it like that and keep it movin Brady.
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