NoIDidn't Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 The 3% figure came from a study of 1500 traveling businessmen that were willing to answer the questions. At the time the researchers felt that if anyone was cheating it was traveling businessmen! So they felt that their study of their habits would open the understanding of what happens after the cheating is over. But nothing about this sample was random and it was a very narrow group - mostly white males and white collar workers. I am of the opinion that in people of color the cheating is far more rampant. But it is just my opinion.
bentnotbroken Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 The 3% figure came from a study of 1500 traveling businessmen that were willing to answer the questions. At the time the researchers felt that if anyone was cheating it was traveling businessmen! So they felt that their study of their habits would open the understanding of what happens after the cheating is over. But nothing about this sample was random and it was a very narrow group - mostly white males and white collar workers. I am of the opinion that in people of color the cheating is far more rampant. But it is just my opinion.[/quote] Yes, that is an opinion. Low or no morals come in every color, SES and gender.
JamesM Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 Yes, that is an opinion. Low or no morals come in every color, SES and gender. So you are saying that there are equal number of affairs in every category? No matter the color, no matter the sex, no matter the religion, no matter (fill in the blank)...EVERY category has the SAME percentage of cheaters? Can that be even possible? That in itself would be a statistical anomaly.
2sure Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 Well, I don't know if my theory of what the 78% represents is good news or not , but... After years of marriage, and depending on the age groups of those polled...Many people , if anonymously asked would say that they're marriages are not completely happy. Most people, in fact, would say they are not 100% happy with every aspect of their lives all of the time. So the 78% that say their marriages are not completely happy could be basing that not only on infidelity - but any and all of the disappointments, crisis, changes, etc that simply make up anyones life or marriage. Its easy, as anyone who has been there to know, that when a crisis or argument arises to reach back and pull out the infidelity - I know I do, even when it isnt warranted.
JamesM Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 Good points, 2sure. And if someone asked me if my marriage was happy, I would say no. My wife might say yes. Who is right? Depends on what your criteria are for happiness. And just because my marriage is unhappy, does that mean it does not have happiness and should end? No. Today's unhappiness could become tomorrow's joy. So while today my answer is "unhappy," tomorrow it will be different. The problem with many couples is that they cannot stick it out until tomorrow.
Author Owl Posted January 23, 2009 Author Posted January 23, 2009 Heck...if you asked most people if their marriage is happy or not, the odds are high that the answer will vary day by day...based on how they're feeling AT THAT MOMENT.
NoIDidn't Posted January 24, 2009 Posted January 24, 2009 Yes, that is an opinion. Low or no morals come in every color, SES and gender. Bent, I love your "black" pride, but I did say PEOPLE OF COLOR for a reason. And while it was my opinion based on personal relationships directly and indirectly, it would seem that statistics bare (??) me out. Its been statistically shown that Latinos and folks of African descent AND others included in the PEOPLE OF COLOR spectrum have higher levels of infidelity than those that fall outside of this group. And while this is purely conjecture on my part, I think the HIV/AIDS stats on AA and Latino women might be related in some way to infidelity in our communities as well. I don't look down on people with the "low morals" talk. I am a mathematician (with a degree to prove it), so this is just about numbers for me.
OWoman Posted January 24, 2009 Posted January 24, 2009 Its been statistically shown that Latinos and folks of African descent AND others included in the PEOPLE OF COLOR spectrum have higher levels of infidelity than those that fall outside of this group. Reference, please. I can ask five of my friends which cricket team is the best, and if three or more of them say Bangladesh, I can claim (truthfully) that "it's been shown statistically that Bangladesh is the best cricket team" on the basis of my "study". However, anyone who knows anything about research - especially social research - would know that my "study" was anything but rigorous if they looked at the study design, and so would call into question my claims and could refute it using other studies, more rigorously designed and executed. I never believe any claims that anything has been shown / proven by research until I read the research for myself. Most "research" out there is shoddy and biased and aimed at providing evidence for the claims of marketers, politicians or policy makers. GOOD research aims to establish the facts, whether they're what the researcher expected / wanted or not.
bentnotbroken Posted January 24, 2009 Posted January 24, 2009 Bent, I love your "black" pride, but I did say PEOPLE OF COLOR for a reason. And while it was my opinion based on personal relationships directly and indirectly, it would seem that statistics bare (??) me out. Its been statistically shown that Latinos and folks of African descent AND others included in the PEOPLE OF COLOR spectrum have higher levels of infidelity than those that fall outside of this group. And while this is purely conjecture on my part, I think the HIV/AIDS stats on AA and Latino women might be related in some way to infidelity in our communities as well. I don't look down on people with the "low morals" talk. I am a mathematician (with a degree to prove it), so this is just about numbers for me. Awe, you assume I was only speaking of my "black":confused:pride. I was speaking of my Native American pride, my Asian pride and my White pride. I am people of color. Numbers can be gathered and skewed to say whatever. What was actually measured? How were the questions of cheating phrased? Did include thoughts of infidelity, porn, blow up dolls, vibrators, actual intercourse? How was infidelity defined? What were the age groups studied? Because one of the fastest growing age groups is the elderly in nursing homes, predominately white. That's all I am saying. What are your numbers based on. Fidelity is a moral decision, do or not. Therefore low morals cross age, race, SES, and gender.....depending on how you define infidelity.
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