Attention whores

[VivaciousSoul]

Well I'm not sure what my top 3 requirements would be in order of importance. But I'll tell you this, aside from the obvious like being a kind, honest person, traits I would want in a man are educated, smart, ambitious, active, makes a decent living and someone who values their family. In addition I would never date a man who was religious, opposed gay marriage, hunted or fished or sat on his ass in front of the tv all day. There are of other issues but these are some main ones. Of course, I need to need attracted to him and feel chemistry as well.

 

What does religious mean?

[movingonandon]

What does religious mean?

 

 

This one's easy - it means judgemental lowlife who is unable or unwilling to use their own effin head.

 

I also would not date anybody who is religious, in a sense to explicitly adjust their life according to whatever **** is written in thei brand of fairy tales. I have no problem with people who go to church out of habit, convention, to socialize, whatever, but missionaires are out of the question.

 

So, my policy towards religion is: "Believe in whatever crap you want, just don't tell me about it":). In fact, this should be the federal policy towards religion. Well, it actually started that way, but somehow the right wing wackos crept back into public space . It is always enjoyable to insult other people's beliefs , but hey - the keep asking for it:laugh:

[motive2002]

This one's easy - it means judgemental lowlife who is unable or unwilling to use their own effin head.

What a nice way to veer off topic by completely offending anyone that has any religious beliefs.

"Believe in whatever crap you want, just don't tell me about it"

Maybe you should follow your own damn advice here and keep it out of my thread. It's off-topic and yes, it is insulting.

[Cherry Blossom 35]

What a nice way to veer off topic by completely offending anyone that has any religious beliefs.

Maybe you should follow your own damn advice here and keep it out of my thread. It's off-topic and yes, it is insulting.

 

 

Yes, I agree.

[Isolde]

I just find this whole idea of "settling" (or the euphemisms that some people use like "settling down" or "being more realistic") redundant. Everyone settles for something less than ideal in every part of life. I settled for my hair, lol!

 

I think the goal should always be to settle as little as possible and change whatever you can change.

 

Also, some people are more patient than others. There are men/women that can hold out ten years to meet what they consider the right man/woman, and some that can't be single more than a few months. No matter what people say, being patient IS more likely to bring results than going with the first option that seems ok (of course, some people take this way too far, but that's their prerogative--some people WOULD rather spend all their lives single than be with someone who doesn't make them happy).

 

Try seeing shades of grey instead of black and white. As I said in a previous thread, there doesn't need to be a vast gulf between the "unrealistic ideal" and the "realistic compromise." Being with someone who makes your mind and perhaps eye wander can't be healthy.

[orangehose]

I'm still shocked by the bitterness of some men here. It's something I was unaware of before joining LS. But so many men here are down right angry at women for having preferences, likes/dislikes and standards. I've also seen men here get angry at a woman for not being interested in him because he thought she had no right to reject him and can't do any better. Who are they to dictate what is an acceptable reason to reject someone and what isn't. I don't get it. I had no idea that this was such a common attitude among the men who have less success with women They act as if a woman should thank her lucky starts that some man wants her, despite how she feels about him and gratefully be his. And then I see them reminisce about the "good 'ol days" when women had to marry by a certain age and be obedient housewives with little input and power

 

I agree, this thread is one long disturbing rant about the existence of female choice.

 

Women have the right to be as picky or unreasonable as they want. They have the right to be single their WHOLE LIFE, if that's what they want. The only problem I see is when a woman is rejecting men right and left and complaining about not getting a man. If you're going to be picky, they don't complain about being single.

 

But I sense some of these men resent the very existence of single women who might even prefer to be single, or at least have a higher activation energy for getting involved with a man because they can support themselves financially and are reasonably content on their own.

 

It's like these guys would prefer a culture in which women are forced into arranged marriages in their teens. They must look at a single woman and think, "what an awful waste of p****. She ought to be strapped into a relationship where at least one bloke will have the right to sleep with her".

 

*shudder*

[Isolde]

I agree, this thread is one long disturbing rant about the existence of female choice.

 

 

Yes, and men should realize that it is much nicer to be wanted/desired than simply needed. Do they really want a woman who won't give them her full attention?

 

A woman who marries someone she's crazy about is actually far more likely to be obedient, faithful, and take care of the house than someone who feels trapped and bitter.

[motive2002]

I agree, this thread is one long disturbing rant about the existence of female choice.

 

Actually it has more to do with not making a choice at all.

 

Ok ladies. What would you think if the great, nice handsome guy you just met is busy dating 5 or 6 different women while chatting up others online and isn't looking for anything serious at all? Would you pursue this type of man? What if that was the 4th or 5th man you've met like that this year? Would you be.. a little frustrated by that? What if it seemed like every guy you met was like this?

I guess I'm asking the wrong crowd, based on the kinds of posts I'm getting.

[movingonandon]

What a nice way to veer off topic by completely offending anyone that has any religious beliefs.

Maybe you should follow your own damn advice here and keep it out of my thread. It's off-topic and yes, it is insulting.

 

 

Yup, this country was founded on the principle of religious freedom, which includes the freedom of no religion at all. As for the insults - I only bust them out when there is a christian in my face judging me and telling me what to do. I don't care what people do in their private lives, but when you see a politician praying for rain - THAT is disturbing and yes - insulting to ME.

 

While veering off-topic, this was merely an articulation of one possible sentiment justifying having "not religious" on their dating list, which was mentioned by 2 other posters to begin with.

[Adri Ana]

Actually it has more to do with not making a choice at all.

 

Ok ladies.

1-What would you think if the great, nice handsome guy you just met is busy dating 5 or 6 different women while chatting up others online and isn't looking for anything serious at all?

2-Would you pursue this type of man?

3-What if that was the 4th or 5th man you've met like that this year?

4-Would you be.. a little frustrated by that?

5-What if it seemed like every guy you met was like this?

I guess I'm asking the wrong crowd, based on the kinds of posts I'm getting.

 

1- just 5-6 ? Oh! would ask him to date more!

2-NO.

3-It wont be the 4th-5th man like that as am not dating or chatting with 4-5.So there would be no chance to meet 4-5 of such or of any other type.

4-I would be confused how Immature men like this may be.

5-I would not become lesbi . I would anyway seek mine one,that would like to be with one .

 

 

 

Ok,Motive2002,

I get your point of view .

And actually I understand you .

Ok.

But lets look at this somehow from another angle .

(First of all ,

me myself am not seeking anyone)

I know some women who really date every week another guy,who chat online with some others ,

and they do complain . You know what they complain of ?

They complain of guys that date too many women,are never serious about settling and just have fun on online dating sites dating in real every week a new lady ! This is what they complain of .

So what you have to say now ?

You think , if a lady meets someone one who just is eager to settle,she will lose him ?

[510]

I'm still shocked by the bitterness of some men here. It's something I was unaware of before joining LS. But so many men here are down right angry at women for having preferences, likes/dislikes and standards. I've also seen men here get angry at a woman for not being interested in him because he thought she had no right to reject him and can't do any better. Who are they to dictate what is an acceptable reason to reject someone and what isn't. I don't get it. I had no idea that this was such a common attitude among the men who have less success with women They act as if a woman should thank her lucky starts that some man wants her, despite how she feels about him and gratefully be his. And then I see them reminisce about the "good 'ol days" when women had to marry by a certain age and be obedient housewives with little input and power

Yes girl, they are out there and experiencing a lot of discomfort. Actually I have never seen so many moody men in my life. I asked my parents who have been married for 57yrs if this went on back in the day and they said no. I think we're experiencing a generation of folk who think they deserve the best without giving their best and when it doesn't happen they place blame.

 

But, yes there a men that are way too anxious and get angry about a woman not wanting to be with them..

[motive2002]

Yes girl, they are out there and experiencing a lot of discomfort. Actually I have never seen so many moody men in my life. I asked my parents who have been married for 57yrs if this went on back in the day and they said no. I think we're experiencing a generation of folk who think they deserve the best without giving their best and when it doesn't happen they place blame.

 

But, yes there a men that are way too anxious and get angry about a woman not wanting to be with them..

 

So a shift in men's attitudes must come from somewhere. A shift in women's attitudes would be my first guess

[Cherry Blossom 35]

I think we're experiencing a generation of folk who think they deserve the best without giving their best and when it doesn't happen they place blame.

 

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I think you see this attitude in love, in the workplace, etc. It is all too commonplace. It's all about what you're getting and not what you're giving.

[Cherry Blossom 35]

So a shift in men's attitudes must come from somewhere. A shift in women's attitudes would be my first guess

 

 

Blaming women again!

[motive2002]

Blaming women again!

 

Most of the feedback I'm getting from women, it that's it's a man's problem if he can't handle a woman that's "entitled to her choices".

That's all fine and well, but this pattern of behavior I'm outlining is cold and reckless.

 

Maybe I'm teetering on being a misogynist.

[allina]

Yup, this country was founded on the principle of religious freedom, which includes the freedom of no religion at all. As for the insults - I only bust them out when there is a christian in my face judging me and telling me what to do. I don't care what people do in their private lives, but when you see a politician praying for rain - THAT is disturbing and yes - insulting to ME.

 

While veering off-topic, this was merely an articulation of one possible sentiment justifying having "not religious" on their dating list, which was mentioned by 2 other posters to begin with.

 

I agree with this, sorry but I do. And then you have these bible thumpers preventing gay people from marring people they love because they think THEIR religion is against it, WTF is that?! They don't want science to be taught in school, they want to keep people ignorant on the topic of safe sex, want it to be illegal to have an abortion, even when the woman is raped! I may put down the (idiotic in my book) things they believe but I'm not the one who wants to pass laws taking away their rights.

[orangehose]

Actually it has more to do with not making a choice at all.

 

Ok ladies. What would you think if the great, nice handsome guy you just met is busy dating 5 or 6 different women while chatting up others online and isn't looking for anything serious at all? Would you pursue this type of man? What if that was the 4th or 5th man you've met like that this year? Would you be.. a little frustrated by that? What if it seemed like every guy you met was like this?

I guess I'm asking the wrong crowd, based on the kinds of posts I'm getting.

 

I'm being nit-picky, but I think NOT making a choice is indeed making a sort of choice - choosing to remain single for whatever reason.

 

Look, when you have a few rough experiences with the opposite sex, it's hard not to generalize. After getting dumped by a guy who wanted to play the field, I could just as well complain about men who are 'players', or whatever. Only Loveshack helped me from falling into easy trap of condemning all men, because it showed me how much BOTH sexes suffer in the pursuit of romantic love.

 

As for meeting a string of women who are multi-dating and uninterested in relationships... I meet guys all the time who aren't interested in serious relationships or marriage. That's just where they're at, for whatever reason, or maybe they haven't found someone who'll make them change their mind. No big deal...

 

Love is hard to find, and you sometimes get beat down or cynical in the process, as you do when going after any major goal. You just have to keep truckin', if it's what you really want...

[orangehose]

this pattern of behavior I'm outlining is cold and reckless.

 

 

Oh, and if you feel someone is using you for attention, cut your losses and move on. Don't feed the attention whores

[stillafool]

A woman who marries someone she's crazy about is actually far more likely to be obedient, faithful, and take care of the house than someone who feels trapped and bitter.

 

 

Exactly! And, the sex is so much better and she will want to have sex all the time!

[kizik]

My rule of thumb is to be nice to everyone, but to forget them if they don't show the same constant care and concern that I give.

[stillafool]

I'm still shocked by the bitterness of some men here. It's something I was unaware of before joining LS. But so many men here are down right angry at women for having preferences, likes/dislikes and standards. I've also seen men here get angry at a woman for not being interested in him because he thought she had no right to reject him and can't do any better. Who are they to dictate what is an acceptable reason to reject someone and what isn't. I don't get it. I had no idea that this was such a common attitude among the men who have less success with women They act as if a woman should thank her lucky starts that some man wants her, despite how she feels about him and gratefully be his. And then I see them reminisce about the "good 'ol days" when women had to marry by a certain age and be obedient housewives with little input and power

 

 

I agree. My how times have changed. They are actually angry that women don't want to settle down. While some of them still play the field they don't want women to.

[stillafool]

Actually it has more to do with not making a choice at all.

 

Ok ladies. What would you think if the great, nice handsome guy you just met is busy dating 5 or 6 different women while chatting up others online and isn't looking for anything serious at all? Would you pursue this type of man? What if that was the 4th or 5th man you've met like that this year? Would you be.. a little frustrated by that? What if it seemed like every guy you met was like this?

I guess I'm asking the wrong crowd, based on the kinds of posts I'm getting.

 

 

I would think he has too many options and move on to someone else. If it kept happening, I would take a break and look at myself and the types of people I am choosing. Then I would lower my standards to someone who isn't in such demand. Lastly, if I were looking for a serious relationship I would say so up front and find out if that is what the other person wants before I got involved. Seems pretty simple to me.

[Dexter Morgan]

I'm still shocked by the bitterness of some men here. It's something I was unaware of before joining LS. But so many men here are down right angry at women for having preferences, likes/dislikes and standards.

 

Not bitter or angry at all. Its great that they have preferences and its great that those preferences also come with many undesirable traits.

 

I just find it funny when they get what they want, then whine about the guy later because he turned out to be a player as if it were some sort of shock.

 

 

I had no idea that this was such a common attitude among the men who have less success with women

 

 

Its not a common attitude for me. I have fine success with women. Hell, lately I have had a few come to me. Attractive as hell, but in a small town, I know their character and I aint interested. I turned down 2 women that I knew to be the kind that likes bad boys. I had to straight up tell one of them, "why do you want me? I'm not your type".

 

I'm just tired of hearing the crying going on because a woman goes for the bigger better deal in the looks or bad boy department, then calls the guy a playboy jerk when its all said and done. Its comical:)

[animo]

It's like every woman I meet these days. The more guys they get attention from the better. Meanwhile their standards and expectations become so lofty for anything long term, but hey why worry about long term when there's dozens of guys you can flirt with and no strings attached?

 

The get the validation they want, the sex they want and are holding out for, not Mr. "right" but instead Mr. "perfect".

 

It's getting old fast and I hope there's some other guys that have noticed this trend. Maybe I'm just.. being my neurotic self?

 

Aww... let me venture a guess... You're NOT Mr. Perfect? ;-)

 

So how did you find out about all this? About what women want? sounds interesting, I'd love to learn more... Not that I care, but I'm sure it's entertaining.

[animo]

I'm still shocked by the bitterness of some men here. It's something I was unaware of before joining LS. But so many men here are down right angry at women for having preferences, likes/dislikes and standards.

 

You misunderstand...

 

They aren't angry at women for having standards, hell they aren't even angry at women. They're angry at society for all the lies they were told about the kind of man they should aspire to be. They're angry at society for telling them that it's 'ok' to just sit back and rely on consumer products to solve their every problem, satisfy their every need... They're angry because they're being punished for doing what society told them to do. They're also angry with themselves for being stupid enough to swallow all that nonsense... but usually they wont take responsiblity for it, so they end up directing their anger at the things they want, but have absolutely no idea how to get... Like women...