pelicanpreacher Posted December 28, 2008 Posted December 28, 2008 Look, this guy transferred assets out of his name and into his wife's to defraud his creditors, hid behind chapter 7 to escape as much responsibility as he could to avoid paying others who dealt with him honestly, and now he wants to cry foul when the woman who stood beside him throughout his shady machinations defrauds him when he betrays her?!! I don't believe for a moment that his financial woes way back when occurred strictly as the result of a dishonest partner for birds of a feather flock together and he just got outsmarted and beaten to the punch for what he'd do in a heartbeat if given the chance to do it again. If what goes around comes around I hope he ends up penniless and completely destroyed for the remainder of his days when his wife rakes his sorry butt across the coals. Proud man? Don't make me laugh. He's no more than a two bit crook and a wannabe lothario who's chickens have finally come home to roost, LOL. And to add icing to this loser's cake he found a much younger woman's life to steal in assertion of his narcissism, YOURS, while having the nerve to expect everyone around him to understand and cooperate with his outright zeal to be selfish. Remember, his wife's history with him gives her an inside track on knowing just what type of man he is so she has no incentive whatsoever to entangle herself with his financial schemes of setting up trusts and so forth for he has shown himself to be completely and utterly untrustworthy at this point. When his day of reckoning comes don't be surprised if you're the only one to witness his burial. Yep, you got a real winner here lady! Good luck with that!!! 1
Author CAMAYPARK Posted December 29, 2008 Author Posted December 29, 2008 Look, this guy transferred assets out of his name and into his wife's to defraud his creditors, hid behind chapter 7 to escape as much responsibility as he could to avoid paying others who dealt with him honestly, and now he wants to cry foul when the woman who stood beside him throughout his shady machinations defrauds him when he betrays her?!! I don't believe for a moment that his financial woes way back when occurred strictly as the result of a dishonest partner for birds of a feather flock together and he just got outsmarted and beaten to the punch for what he'd do in a heartbeat if given the chance to do it again. If what goes around comes around I hope he ends up penniless and completely destroyed for the remainder of his days when his wife rakes his sorry butt across the coals. Proud man? Don't make me laugh. He's no more than a two bit crook and a wannabe lothario who's chickens have finally come home to roost, LOL. And to add icing to this loser's cake he found a much younger woman's life to steal in assertion of his narcissism, YOURS, while having the nerve to expect everyone around him to understand and cooperate with his outright zeal to be selfish. Remember, his wife's history with him gives her an inside track on knowing just what type of man he is so she has no incentive whatsoever to entangle herself with his financial schemes of setting up trusts and so forth for he has shown himself to be completely and utterly untrustworthy at this point. When his day of reckoning comes don't be surprised if you're the only one to witness his burial. Yep, you got a real winner here lady! Good luck with that!!! OMG what made you so full of venom and so judgemental? I thought this is a forum whereby some honest truths can be dished out and support given when needed to be.
pelicanpreacher Posted December 30, 2008 Posted December 30, 2008 OMG what made you so full of venom and so judgemental? I thought this is a forum whereby some honest truths can be dished out and support given when needed to be. I just call'm like I see'm and sell'm as I bought'm!
Billie63 Posted December 30, 2008 Posted December 30, 2008 You really think it is that simple? love and happiness is much more important at this junture? Love and happiness is the most important thing in life - what else is there? Money and reputation? Your man has been in an unhappy marriage and believes he has a right to happiness - with you. I'm sure he was at fault during the marriage too but there's got to be more to life than staying with someone for financial reasons. You love him and worry about him but you also need to respect him as a man - he's only 54 - he's unlikely to keel over because of the stress of this divorce. Amicable divorces are rare - most couples go through incredible animosity in the aftermath of a break up - before they can be friends and treat each other with respect. You're just witnessing that fall out - but as GEL said - it won't last.
Angel1111 Posted December 30, 2008 Posted December 30, 2008 He's a big boy - he can make his own decisions. Spending 25 yrs in a crappy marriage is enough torture for anyone. I'm sure whatever price he has to pay to get out of it, he's willing to do it.
Author CAMAYPARK Posted December 30, 2008 Author Posted December 30, 2008 Thank you, B63. MM and I had some long discussions over Christmas, I told him about my feelings on the situation and he explained his as well and despite the huge fall out on Christmas Day (I think) with his W, we managed to resolve a lot of issues. Well, I have now strap on those seat belts as you suggested GEL and I am praying for an amicable outcome, I really am. Strange as it sounds, there are parts of me that's really happy that he didn't choose financial security. Thank you all for all your advise and suggestions
GreenEyedLady Posted December 30, 2008 Posted December 30, 2008 Well, I have now strap on those seat belts as you suggested GEL and I am praying for an amicable outcome, I really am. Strange as it sounds, there are parts of me that's really happy that he didn't choose financial security. Just do the best you can and focus on the two of you and your future. That's what's important. It can be a tough time, but I am happy with our outcome and it was worth it. Support each other, forgive each other and love each other. I'm only a pm away. GEL
OWoman Posted December 30, 2008 Posted December 30, 2008 Does anyone know what will happen next? When does it get better? Please tell me that there's a lght at the end of the tunnel It's likely to get a lot worse before it gets better. Your MM's BW sounds rather familiar, sadly. She's likely to stay bitter and likely to keep on at him in the way she's been doing. BTDT. But you have each other, and that's all you need. The light at the end of the tunnel is the glow of your love - it will be as strong and focussed as that.
Author CAMAYPARK Posted December 30, 2008 Author Posted December 30, 2008 Thank you, GEL and OWoman. I will certainly pm u if things get hairy. Hope that you don't mind, its just that sometimes a sounding board is much needed. Thank you
bentnotbroken Posted December 30, 2008 Posted December 30, 2008 OMG what made you so full of venom and so judgemental? I thought this is a forum whereby some honest truths can be dished out and support given when needed to be. Is what PP said true? Did he deceive a lot of people to get from under his financial responsibilities? If that is true, why should the W feel sorrow for him now. He did what he had to do before(true lies and deceit)why can't he do it again? Are you afraid the seeds he sowed will come to fruition before you get your happy ending? 1
Author CAMAYPARK Posted December 31, 2008 Author Posted December 31, 2008 Is what PP said true? Did he deceive a lot of people to get from under his financial responsibilities? If that is true, why should the W feel sorrow for him now. He did what he had to do before(true lies and deceit)why can't he do it again? Are you afraid the seeds he sowed will come to fruition before you get your happy ending? Is it true? According to his brother and sister, no. He used all his savings and emptied his pension pot to pay off all the creditors. The business was already been winding down and winded up. I think the sheer stupidity of his actions then were to employ top notch barristers and solicitors in order to reclaim the monies lost from one of his less than honest partner. He went down with another good friend/partner, when they can no longer afford to pay more legal bills. And then he took the shortest route ever to end all the stress by going for voluntary bankruptcy. His partners and him had a sandwich bar more than 15years ago and a huge wrangling over the lease of the building erupted when the leaseholder wanted to reclaim the lease in order to build luxury apartments/condos. It was whilst going through the paperwork and the accounts, their accountants discovered that one of the partners had been siphoning money out of the business.... And the story goes on Even though I knew his entire story from his siblings, he told me about his situation when we first started out as friends 3/4years ago now.
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