elaina Posted November 24, 2008 Posted November 24, 2008 Um... princess to me is a beautiful word that takes me back to being a little girl, dressed up in a pretty "princess" dress, watching a Disney movie where the heroine is a gorgeous and nice royal lady who sings with birds and animals, cleans dwarf cottages, and is carried off by the Handsome Prince to live happily ever after. Why is "princess" a term now for a haughty person who thinks she is entitled to everything? Can't we think of another way to define that uncomplimentary characteristic please? There are true princesses in the world... I'm not just meaning Princess Diana. There are women I know who are friends and women who are role models who are beautiful and kind and helpful and who either have met their Prince or who are hoping that someday their Prince will come... Also, this term "Princess" is still very special to many females... just take how popular Taylor Swift's "Love Story" song is! She mentions the terms "Princess" and "Prince" in the lyrics of that song. Do guys really hate it if a woman wants to be a princess in that way?
Trialbyfire Posted November 24, 2008 Posted November 24, 2008 There, I changed my avvy to when I was three. I've always been a little princess to my father. As for the term being used in a negative fashion, that's okay. You'll find that there are men who don't feel they need to do anything in a relationship, marry a girl, then expect to be serviced. Most often, this is the kind of guy who uses this term negatively towards women.
kashmir Posted November 24, 2008 Posted November 24, 2008 What are you, some kind of princess? It's just a word. Who cares if you're not referred to as princess if you're being treated in a special way? Princess, to me, suggests a woman who doesn't really DO anything, but instead sits up in her tower for the world to admire her and for her knight in shining armor to come. Though, I feel the same way about the word dick. Being a dick used to be a good thing. Every guy wanted to have the balls to be a dick. The dick would always be the guy to come in and seriously f**k everything up, including a few *******s who were just ****ting all over everyone else. Now being a dick seems to be a bad thing. Nobody likes a guy who's a dick anymore.
Green Posted November 24, 2008 Posted November 24, 2008 bend over princess I'm going to do you like a dog (doggie style)
Jersey Shortie Posted November 24, 2008 Posted November 24, 2008 Elaina, I think it's for a couple reasons. One reason is alot of women over abuse the concept of "princess" and think they rule the roost because they wear Uggs, get their nails down and can treat others like crap all the while saying "they deserve it" and that they are a "princess". Another reason is that so many men don't understand the true nature of a woman's heart and what makes us feel like women. They rather make fun of that and belittle it then understand why being a "princess" and being "cherrished" makes us feel special and loved. Unfortunetly, these same men probably complain that women try to make them feel like less of a man because women can do the same thing. For somen women being a "princess" is about hoping a man out there thinks we our pretty enough, special enough and have value enough to be treated with love and kindness. I hope more men try to understand that there are things that make us feel like a woman and they are not always the things men wished were true about us that actually are more about trying to get us to act more like men but in a woman's body.
Trialbyfire Posted November 24, 2008 Posted November 24, 2008 Yup, yup, I get not only my nails done but also massages, pedicures, waxings, facials AND get my eyebrows shaped. It allows me to be treated special and be cherished because I deserve it!
Jersey Shortie Posted November 24, 2008 Posted November 24, 2008 Nothing wrong with getting those things done Trial. It's the certain attitude and sense of entitlement that I think turns men off. Although, men should keep in mind that there are things they do that turn women off as well.
Trialbyfire Posted November 24, 2008 Posted November 24, 2008 I enjoy my ivory tower because the stairs that lead up to it allow me to keep my legs in shape. Since there's only 50 stairs, I have to do two laps, every second day. Sometimes I do four laps, if I'm feeling energetic!
Author elaina Posted November 24, 2008 Author Posted November 24, 2008 What are you, some kind of princess? It's just a word. Who cares if you're not referred to as princess if you're being treated in a special way? Princess, to me, suggests a woman who doesn't really DO anything, but instead sits up in her tower for the world to admire her and for her knight in shining armor to come. Though, I feel the same way about the word dick. Being a dick used to be a good thing. Every guy wanted to have the balls to be a dick. The dick would always be the guy to come in and seriously f**k everything up, including a few *******s who were just ****ting all over everyone else. Now being a dick seems to be a bad thing. Nobody likes a guy who's a dick anymore. I wish Well, see, I think the reason you think of the term Princess different is cause men and women think so differently... I consider what you described to just be "selfish" not a true princess About the word Dick, to me it's amusing when a man is named Dick. It creates the opporunity for all kinds of hilarious jokes! KMT, first you'd have to slay the firebreathing dragon... AND fight my knight in shining armor good luck TrialbyFire, you're so pretty!!! I don't have any pictures downloaded of when I was a child, but yeah that's something most men don't understand... what a princess really means to women who are romantics at heart. Jersey Shortie..." Another reason is that so many men don't understand the true nature of a woman's heart and what makes us feel like women. They rather make fun of that and belittle it then understand why being a "princess" and being "cherrished" makes us feel special and loved" So true that!!! Good night ya'll
Trialbyfire Posted November 24, 2008 Posted November 24, 2008 TrialbyFire, you're so pretty!!! I don't have any pictures downloaded of when I was a child, but yeah that's something most men don't understand... what a princess really means to women who are romantics at heart. Thanks. You weren't supposed to realize that. I was trying so hard to be the negative image princess, although much of what I said was true, just twisted in a particular fashion. I do live a bit of a princess lifestyle, although it's offset with a hella' lot of hard work and if seriously viewed, is a pretty simple lifestyle overall. Everything I have, I've worked hard for, although it does entitle me to this lifestyle!
Woggle Posted November 24, 2008 Posted November 24, 2008 It has become a negative because many women expected treated like a princess when they have done nothing whatsoever to deserve that kind of treatment.an should not get special treatment just because she is female.
Bells Posted November 24, 2008 Posted November 24, 2008 Um... princess to me is a beautiful word that takes me back to being a little girl, dressed up in a pretty "princess" dress, watching a Disney movie where the heroine is a gorgeous and nice royal lady who sings with birds and animals, cleans dwarf cottages, and is carried off by the Handsome Prince to live happily ever after. Why is "princess" a term now for a haughty person who thinks she is entitled to everything? Can't we think of another way to define that uncomplimentary characteristic please? There are true princesses in the world... I'm not just meaning Princess Diana. There are women I know who are friends and women who are role models who are beautiful and kind and helpful and who either have met their Prince or who are hoping that someday their Prince will come... Also, this term "Princess" is still very special to many females... just take how popular Taylor Swift's "Love Story" song is! She mentions the terms "Princess" and "Prince" in the lyrics of that song. Do guys really hate it if a woman wants to be a princess in that way? If I see a profile with any kind of keyword indicating royalty, ie - "PR Queen" or "Sexy princess" or whatever. I tend to move on....this is usually indicative of an entitlement complex...and if you ever got involved with a woman like this....a man would wind up miserable. lol It doesn't stop at just online profiles...I've seen it on some women's T-shirts and tanktops, on tops of windsheilds on cars, etc.
Alma Mobley Posted November 24, 2008 Posted November 24, 2008 The term "princess" should be reserved for actual princesses, who, btw, are not always beautiful with flowing gowns and living in a sparkly tower. As a woman living in the West, I don't want to be a "princess." I earn a living like the rest of you. I am not descended from royal blood, so why would I want to be treated like a princess or act like I am one? Ew.
Trialbyfire Posted November 24, 2008 Posted November 24, 2008 Treat me like a princess, I don't mind!
bayouboi Posted November 24, 2008 Posted November 24, 2008 This topic will become interesting if we ever have a man post that "princesses" are a good thing and he isn't obviously just trying to get laid. Or once it becomes a flame fest My $ is on the latter happening first
You'reasian Posted November 24, 2008 Posted November 24, 2008 I enjoy my ivory tower because the stairs that lead up to it allow me to keep my legs in shape. Since there's only 50 stairs, I have to do two laps, every second day. Sometimes I do four laps, if I'm feeling energetic! I'll race ya? (should be a piece of cake, considering the sled pulling). To answer the OP, I think its nice that a woman can idealize her relationship/persona as a princess, so long as it doesn't create more difficulties with her relationships. If it does, she is not a princess...
MN randomguy Posted November 24, 2008 Posted November 24, 2008 It has become a negative because many women expected treated like a princess when they have done nothing whatsoever to deserve that kind of treatment.an should not get special treatment just because she is female. +1 I think the dual definitions are what makes it work. "Oh, I'm a princess! Buy me a car!" "That's right you are a princess, I'm going to delete you out of my phone!" The guys who are dicks in a bad way, still don't call themselves dicks. The definition of words change. Ever see the metrosexual Southpark episode? The part where Mr. Garrison asks Chef what to do when the mainstream adopts your cultural identity. There does need to be a new term for noble, classically beautiful, elegant, kind women. What label would you give this? Other than princess, that word has been diluted.
Dexter Morgan Posted November 24, 2008 Posted November 24, 2008 Um... princess to me is a beautiful word that takes me back to being a little girl, dressed up in a pretty "princess" dress, watching a Disney movie where the heroine is a gorgeous and nice royal lady who sings with birds and animals, cleans dwarf cottages, and is carried off by the Handsome Prince to live happily ever after. Why is "princess" a term now for a haughty person who thinks she is entitled to everything? Because there is a difference to calling a child princess to calling an adult one. Can't we think of another way to define that uncomplimentary characteristic please? Its not so much calling someone a princess who is truly a great person, but rather the way an entitlement tart thinks of herself. Thats why I always use the full term, "entitlement princess" rather than just "princess".
kashmir Posted November 24, 2008 Posted November 24, 2008 Also, the age of royalty is done with. We don't have kings, queens, princes, and princesses anymore, and if they do exist they're only there for show and aren't taken seriously. The idea that a person should get special treatment and privileges because they were born with royal blood and a divine right is regarded as utterly ridiculous now. While women who want to be thought of as princesses aren't suggesting they have a god-given right (well, MOST of them aren't ), their desire and belief of entitlement for special treatment is derived from old obsolete ways. No woman deserves to be a princess, just as no man deserves to be a king or prince (but you hardly hear guys stating their desire to be called that anymore). My point is, since so many revolutionary movements have happened over the past few centuries that were formulated and executed by second-class citizens (non-royalty), they rightfully blemished the image of royalty from being a magnificent gift and power to being an oppressive role that was characterized by greed and selfishness. That's why the term "princess" is a bad one now, and in my opinion, rightfully so.
Isolde Posted November 25, 2008 Posted November 25, 2008 Also, the age of royalty is done with. We don't have kings, queens, princes, and princesses anymore, and if they do exist they're only there for show and aren't taken seriously. The idea that a person should get special treatment and privileges because they were born with royal blood and a divine right is regarded as utterly ridiculous now. While women who want to be thought of as princesses aren't suggesting they have a god-given right (well, MOST of them aren't ), their desire and belief of entitlement for special treatment is derived from old obsolete ways. No woman deserves to be a princess, just as no man deserves to be a king or prince (but you hardly hear guys stating their desire to be called that anymore). My point is, since so many revolutionary movements have happened over the past few centuries that were formulated and executed by second-class citizens (non-royalty), they rightfully blemished the image of royalty from being a magnificent gift and power to being an oppressive role that was characterized by greed and selfishness. That's why the term "princess" is a bad one now, and in my opinion, rightfully so. Excellent analysis, however, I think the OP was arguing that there needs to be room for a more benign meaning of the word. After all, being born a princess doesn't make you a bad person. On another note, "princess" makes an excellent pet name due to its ambiguity!
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