InLimbo2 Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 I guess you've been a virgin bride then? - otherwise how could you possibly know unless you've been in that situation? Well, I did marry the guy I had sex with the first time. I do believe I have some relevant knowlege. And yes - we got divorced. And yes - I wondered what it was like with others. And yes - after I had a bit more experience - we had not been sexually compatible. It seems your partial knowledge is acceptable but not hers. You say her logic is flawed, but yet according to epistemology your assertion is much as a belief as hers. So yet, while you say she can't make a determination from lack of experience, you seem to be able to. I'd like to know how that works. See above - I married the first guy I had sex with - very shortly after too. That said - I'll give you the objective knowledge that you're seeking which is in peer reviewed journals - this is not propaganda, it's common knowledge which is much stronger than your own assertions. Sliding down I see that the study you referenced has already been debunked - imagine that. Objectively: If you rate sex higher than your childs welfare and a stable family environment, then no, sex isn't over-rated - but one has to question your fitness the purpose for child rearing if you rate sexual pleasure above the stability of a marriage and health of a child. Talk about an illogical leap! Who said anything about children??? Much less about putting sex at a higher importance than the health of one? FYI - I was always the primary caretaker of both my children - was a SAHM for 11 years - and then been a single mom for 10+ years - having sole custody of them and total responsibility for them for years. And - about the effects on kids and them dropping out of school - my oldest graduated from high school at 16 with straight A's and is in college and works - my youngest is still in high school. And those are according to independent stats which equates to common knowledge rather than belief which according to the epistemic logic that you're a fan of using to make your argument, ironically makes your argument significantly weaker than hers. A whole lotta words that said nothing. That would be that debunked study again right? Link to post Share on other sites
InLimbo2 Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Again - who said anything about children? Plenty of people don't want kids. Marriage is not synonymous with breeding ya know. The point is that healthy marriage is more likely to lead to healthy well adjusted children. If you want to fulfill your own needs according to what gives them a better life that's fine, but I think people should give greater consideration as to whether those life choices gives them suitable parenting skills. Link to post Share on other sites
InLimbo2 Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Don't forget masturbation - a lot of these rigid virginal people don't believe in that either. So what exactly is your definition of virgin? what kind of physical contact do you/have you had with your partners? do you consider virginity vaginal penetration? or just any physical nude contact? would fondling and "heavy petting" be considered a breach of virginity in your book? Link to post Share on other sites
Author MissTiger Posted November 21, 2008 Author Share Posted November 21, 2008 Great questions... actually wondering this myself about you MissTiger. I do not agree with you about sex until marriage, and I think you're going to find it almost impossible to find a virgin man who'll wait to lose his virginity (if he already hasn't lost it) until marriage. At the same time, I think you're putting the pussy on the pedestal, you are making assumptions about something you've never done so it's like a man telling a woman what a period feels like. I'm not willing to do any of that stuff before marriage; no handjob, no bj's no nothing. It's not right. I want to deal with the heavy emotions the right way and that's in my marriage. For those of you who say I'll have a crappy sex life, I disagree because I don't want to compare my husband to somebody else. I'll never wonder what it would be like to have sex with another man,becaue I'll be with the right man. So what exactly is your definition of virgin? what kind of physical contact do you/have you had with your partners? do you consider virginity vaginal penetration? or just any physical nude contact? would fondling and "heavy petting" be considered a breach of virginity in your book? I've never dated. What you just listed above is somewhat a breach of virginity. Fondling and "heavy petting" leads to sex so my limits would be simple and that would be, only holding hands and kissing;like a light peck on the lips and that's it. I'd never be in a room alone with him. My nude body is for my husband's eyes only. Bottom line. Link to post Share on other sites
elaina Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 ...and I'm proud of it. Sex is overrated and I see my virginity as a rare and precious gift, like a diamond. I want my husband to be the only lover I'll ever know. I want my husband to be a virgin as well. I'd be disappointed if he didn't wait for me,our marriage bed would be pretty "crowded" if you know what I mean. Any virgins here agree with me? And is there anybody who doesn't? That's awesome! I was a virgin till I got married, cause of my spiritual beliefs, and believe me, that was one of the most difficult things I've ever done.. staying a virgin till marriage! Anyways, I am glad I did, even though sad to say we are divorced. My ex-husband is a wonderful man but no he was not a virgin when I met him... but that's not why we got divorced. Marriage is more than just sex, and we had cultural issues. (We are from different countries and that made it quite difficult in our case. It does not mean however that people from different cultures or countries will have have a hard time... it all depends on the couple. Many marriages where the couples are from the same country/culture also have a hard time.) I disagree with you in the comment "Sex is overated" because I personally think sex is awesome!!! But I think it is easy for people to get so wrapped up in the feel good part of sex that they don't care so much about caring for the other person in ALL areas of life, though yeah sex is by far one of the best! So it is good to meet someone who loves you and you love and commit to each other before having sex, cause there are many people who just use other people. It is sad but true. They don't care for the person but just want to feel good and then cast that person aside when some "meat" that they deem is "better' comes along. Also, even though some people don't really care about getting sexual diseases, others do. My sister married a guy who has herpes but didn't know about it. She found out she caught herpes from him when they were pregnant with their first child, and believe me it was a very tough time for them. I don't have herpes or any sexual disease that I know of but my sister would cry from the pain, so I am guessing herpes is not all that pleasant. It is good for couples to be tested first I think. Many times people have sex with others and then pass a disease on to their significant other (boyfriend,girlfriend, husband, wife, whatever), which is very sad. So... Stay strong. I am sorry but I don't think there are many men who will stay virgin... but there are some. Just remember though when you get married that relationships take both persons being committed, being respectful and caring for each other, and willing to make things work even through difficult times. I congratulate you on taking a stand! Link to post Share on other sites
InLimbo2 Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 20 never even dated won't even be in a room alone with a man you are positive about how you'll think and feel years from now At 16 my daughter thought she knew herself, at 18 she looked back at that time and laughed about how much about herself and life she didn't know - she's 20 now and she looks back at herself at 18 the same way. Every year she grows and evolves and knows herself better. if you are the same person emotionally at 30 that you were at 20, you've wasted 10 years of your life. I'm not willing to do any of that stuff before marriage; no handjob, no bj's no nothing. It's not right. I want to deal with the heavy emotions the right way and that's in my marriage. For those of you who say I'll have a crappy sex life, I disagree because I don't want to compare my husband to somebody else. I'll never wonder what it would be like to have sex with another man,becaue I'll be with the right man. I've never dated. What you just listed above is somewhat a breach of virginity. Fondling and "heavy petting" leads to sex so my limits would be simple and that would be, only holding hands and kissing;like a light peck on the lips and that's it. I'd never be in a room alone with him. My nude body is for my husband's eyes only. Bottom line. Link to post Share on other sites
Brimstone_Angel Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 ...Any virgins here agree with me? While I am working on my second virginhood, I do agree with you. I wasted my virginity on a woman who I thought would be there forever, and she did not stay even a month, even though she enjoyed the sex. Sex is highly overrate (at least fornication sex) and I am telling you this, NO ONE knows what good or bad sex if they are a virgin and wait until they have sex when they are married. You don't have other people to compare your loved one's actions to. Sex is more natural that way and you two learn to work together. You don't have to readjust yourself to another's sexual styles, likes, or dislikes. You don't run the risks of getting diseases or becoming pregnant with someone you may not decide to stay with you. If I were you and you are serious about saving yourself for your husband, I being a man who has betrayed myself and am paying for it, it is not worth it. Save yourself and ignore those who will tell you otherwise. And a man who is not willing to wait for you is NOT worthy of you. Your sex and sexuality is a gift and a treasure and you should respect it as such. My last love interest was 33 and she had never had sex. Why? Because she respects it, herself, and for who it should be shared with. Link to post Share on other sites
Lovelybird Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 :laugh: I don't think you will ever convince each other, there are completely two different beliefs. Misstiger, I applaud your courage and strong self-control. It would be a bit difficult to hold back intimate act with the one you love, but totally worth it. As for people who don't believe in God, don't believe in sex is sacred in marriage, of course they would try to test sex before marriage, pragmatism, totally fit into the world value because they don't see why not. And do things instantly satisfy own sexual needs. YOu can have sexual compatility and still have a messed up relationship. As for people who believe in God, waiting sex for marriage is a beautiful thing. That means life commitment to the one you are going to marry. You don't sleep with any guys that you had romantic feelings, but with the one who not only you have romantic feelings, but also both make serious commitment to each other. Waiting for marriage is to put God first. A relationship makes God the centre is a beautiful relationship. Think about that, if a husband constantly wants to please God, he must be a perfect husband, because he has to overcome his own selfishness to love, because God wants him to learn love, and this husband can learn from Lord if he has a close relationshp with Lord. The same thing with the wife. I think a husband who is humble before Lord, and want to constantly learn from Him is a great husband. Waiting for marriage is to respect your future husband AND yourself. I like a poster use that term "working on his second virginity". if you aren't virgin, please don't feel pressured, you still can make decisions that waiting for marriage. I don't see how far can pragmatism or instant sexual satisfaction go in a marriage. There has to have something bigger than physical, even bigger than self in a marriage. Link to post Share on other sites
orangehose Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 I'm not willing to do any of that stuff before marriage; no handjob, no bj's no nothing. It's not right. Well, at least you're not one of those 'everything but' virgins who thinks it's okay to do everything but one thing. I have some friends who for religious or other reasons are /were in that category, and I can't help finding them laughably hypocritical. Yeah, premarital sex goes against the will of God, but getting naked in bed regularly with a person of the opposite sex to do all sorts of other activities, now that's perfectly godly. Gimme a break. Link to post Share on other sites
Lovelybird Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Well, at least you're not one of those 'everything but' virgins who thinks it's okay to do everything but one thing. I have some friends who for religious or other reasons are /were in that category, and I can't help finding them laughably hypocritical. Yeah, premarital sex goes against the will of God, but getting naked in bed regularly with a person of the opposite sex to do all sorts of other activities, now that's perfectly godly. Gimme a break. that cannot say waiting for marriage, before act the heart purity go first If one really believe in God, don't they know God knows everything? even the husband doesn't Link to post Share on other sites
InLimbo2 Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 While I am working on my second virginhood, I do agree with you. I wasted my virginity on a woman who I thought would be there forever, and she did not stay even a month, even though she enjoyed the sex. LOLOL - virginity is a one shot deal so to speak - it's not like a computer you can reboot and do over. People who claim this 'born again virgin' or 'second virginhood' are totally in denial that it's gone, kaput, POOF - it's the experience of a lifetime - good or bad - and you only get one shot at it. You can go celibate, but you can't go virgin again. Sex is highly overrate (at least fornication sex) and I am telling you this, NO ONE knows what good or bad sex if they are a virgin and wait until they have sex when they are married. You don't have other people to compare your loved one's actions to. That's the silliest thing to say. Even a virgin knows if they are bored in bed, if it doesn't feel good, if they don't have an orgasm. If they lay there counting cracks in the ceiling or wondering what all the fuss is about. Sex is more natural that way and you two learn to work together. And sometimes, no matter how long or hard you work at it - it's still not good. And then you wonder if it's just you - or the partnership - or what. Can lead to some pretty big frustration and doubt. You don't have to readjust yourself to another's sexual styles, likes, or dislikes. Or - put another way - you don't get to find out what turns you on or experience a good sex life if the sex is just bad - you're stuck with it. Not to mention things like fetishes. Had a co-worker decades ago - married as a virgin - the guy was into some real rough stuff - she had no clue - she sure did find out on her honeymoon. You don't run the risks of getting diseases or becoming pregnant with someone you may not decide to stay with you. Oh please - plenty of married folks divorce - when you get pregnant there is always some chance that at some point that your partner may decide to not stay with you. If I were you and you are serious about saving yourself for your husband, I being a man who has betrayed myself and am paying for it, it is not worth it. Save yourself and ignore those who will tell you otherwise Oh please - more than likely AFTER the fact - hindsight - you regretted things you did - that's not nearly as flowery as 'betrayed myself' - but it's reality. You had sex outside of marriage and regret it. Millions have sex outside of marriage and don't regret it. Everyone has a right to their opinion. People are trying to give the OP both sides of the scenario - so maybe she's a bit more educated and can consider both options. Save yourself and ignore those who will tell you otherwise. And a man who is not willing to wait for you is NOT worthy of you. Your sex and sexuality is a gift and a treasure and you should respect it as such. Well, given your theories - you aren't worthy of a virgin - or her gift and treasure either. Guess you know that - and hence the attempt to regain your virginity/being in denial. That says you can't even stand up to your own judgment - do you really think you have the right to judge others or decide if they are right or wrong? My last love interest was 33 and she had never had sex. Why? Because she respects it, herself, and for who it should be shared with. More likely she's just terrified of finally doing it - or of establishing true intimacy with a partner. Link to post Share on other sites
Green Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 you sound like a nun if your 20 and havn't even kissed a guy or been on a date. Why have you never been on a date? Link to post Share on other sites
Brimstone_Angel Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 InLimbo, Of course I would not expect you to understand or agree, that is why I was not commenting to you. And trust me on this, the discussions me and my ex had, she was very much unafraid of sex. She has a certain standard she expected for herself, what she wanted for her life, and she stuck to it. I wish I had that resolve. And again, I know from studies, that those who waited until they were married on more average than not, had BETTER sex lives than those who were out there and then did it after they were married. Lastly, it is also obvious you don't understand the term second virginity... It is of a mental and spiritual concept vice a physical one. Just for your education. So OP, if you want true wisdom and experience from your stand point. Take it from someone who knows people who have done what you did. And from personal experience from someone who HAS had awesome sex outside of marriage, but on the inside knows and feels like he betrayed himself. It is not worth it if that is your goal. Now if you really don't care or you want to just try it to see what it is like before you get married. You do that if you want to as well. But, make sure that you are willing to deal with all the consequences that comes from it. Link to post Share on other sites
Brimstone_Angel Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Another thing you have to think about is this... If you have a reference point, could you truly be objective of the man who loves you if you know that his sex is different from another person's style? Could you really not think about how someone else does something to make your toes tingle? Let me give you another peace of my history to illustrate this... Between the 4 women I dated that I had sex with, the 1 night stand, and the 4 prostitutes I had. I would prefer to have a wife who knew how to have sex like the prostitutes. Why? Because they did things to me and allowed me to do things to them that the other 5 would not. So, while the sex with them was great, I still could not put completely out of my mind some of the things I would like these non-prostitute women to do with me. Is that fair on them, am I really accepting them for who they are without comparing them? No. It is like have 5 people cook you spaghetti and meat sauce, but your reference for the greatest tasting spaghetti and meat sauce dish is how mom use to make it. 5 different are going to cook it according to how they know how to cook it and you are going to get 5 different flavors, and while you appreciate it and gobble it up something fierce, some where in your mind you are going to be thinking, its still isn't like mom's. This is why I just don't eat anyone elses' chitterlings than from my family. My family knows how to do it just right. And this is the same concept with sex, relationships, or what have you. Without a reference point, we can't really have a bias opinion or unfair judgment of others or their skills. Link to post Share on other sites
Trimmer Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 It is like have 5 people cook you spaghetti and meat sauce, but your reference for the greatest tasting spaghetti and meat sauce dish is how mom use to make it. 5 different are going to cook it according to how they know how to cook it and you are going to get 5 different flavors, and while you appreciate it and gobble it up something fierce, some where in your mind you are going to be thinking, its still isn't like mom's. This is why I just don't eat anyone elses' chitterlings than from my family. My family knows how to do it just right. Hee hee... it's probably because I had sex before marriage, but I can't help reading the above with the realization that the poster is making an analogy comparing premarital sex with eating his mom's spaghetti. And then with that as a starting point, doesn't the whole paragraph just read somewhere between deliciously hilarious and a little bit creepy? ("My family knows how to do it just right." Yeah.) But I think I'm actually having trouble undertstanding the analogy. Are you saying that tasting your mom's spaghetti has ruined you, because nobody else's will be like hers? And to continue the "stay a virgin" analogy, wouldn't that imply that you shouldn't ever have eaten mom's spaghetti because now, when you get married, you'll always be thinking about mom while you're having sex, or... wait... I'm getting confused. And this is the same concept with sex, relationships, or what have you. Without a reference point, we can't really have a bias opinion or unfair judgment of others or their skills. Essentially, then, ignorance is bliss? Don't ever risk the possibility of tasting really good spaghetti, and you'll eventually be able to settle and be happy with mediocre spaghetti, because (thankfully!) you won't know any better. Link to post Share on other sites
Brimstone_Angel Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 ....Essentially, then, ignorance is bliss? Don't ever risk the possibility of tasting really good spaghetti, and you'll eventually be able to settle and be happy with mediocre spaghetti, because (thankfully!) you won't know any better. Certain types of ignorance is bliss. Sticking with speghetti, and sense you want to take the whole idea out of content and make fun of it, I'll change it so that it suits you and others who may not get the parable of what I am saying...Instead of your mom, lets say an old lover or friend. There was something special about how they made that speghetti that no one could ever immulate, even if they copied the instructions to a "t". Now 5 other people you fall in love with try to make you the same meal. Now that you have this other person as a reference, while you may politely and/or genuingly love the other's cooking, it will never be the same as so and so or how so and so did it. This is the concept about sex. What really makes good sex or bad sex? Except for that fact there should always be some concern about what you two are doing, making sure you are showing your partner respect, etc., etc., etc. But, we really would not know what good sex is because, why? We are not only learning our own sexuality, but we are learning the sexuality of another. Yes certain basics are constant, but the uniquiness and true pleasure comes with finding that special thing that makes each of us tick. Some people can find it and some can't, this does not mean they are a good or bad lover, it just mean their abilities and habits are different than yours. And through communication and sexperimentation do we discover ways to fulfill those needs with each other. And that is why many studies show that more paired virgins have better sex lives than those who have been out there and now are settled down with a partner...Sex is not familiar that soon. Link to post Share on other sites
SushiX Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 ...and I'm proud of it. Sex is overrated and I see my virginity as a rare and precious gift, like a diamond. I want my husband to be the only lover I'll ever know. I want my husband to be a virgin as well. I'd be disappointed if he didn't wait for me,our marriage bed would be pretty "crowded" if you know what I mean. Any virgins here agree with me? And is there anybody who doesn't? Every virgin I knew before said the exact same thing as you until they lost their virginity. lol You'll later realize that being a virgin is overated not the other way around. Link to post Share on other sites
Touche Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 sexperimentation :lmao: Ok, sorry but that made me laugh. As to the whole spaghetti/sex thing...I don't really get it. I mean my first love made a mean spaghetti but was just an ok lover. My one and only true love (my H) is a great lover but just makes a so-so spaghetti? What does this mean? Link to post Share on other sites
Touche Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 ok, I just wanted to add another thing...what does it mean that on the nights my husband makes rigatoni, he doesn't perform as well in bed? Please, help. I'm so very confused on this issue. I will tell you that when I make lasagna I'm particularly outstanding in bed but when I make linguine I'm usually not as feisty for some reason. Angel hair pasta is pretty good for me though. Oh and when I make fettucini, I'm usually not the best lover. It knocks me out. What could this mean? Raviolis and tortellinis are good for sex but only after a decent nap. Sex after fusilli is probably the best. Especially if it's the spinach kind for some reason. Anyway, I think it's good to hold off on sex if you can. Eating pasta can sometimes be more satisfying. Although eating pasta can sometimes be over-rated too. But what do I know anyway? P.S. If eating pasta, don't get the boxed kind. You must make it yourself. But then some people think the homemade kind is over-rated. Link to post Share on other sites
InLimbo2 Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Of course I would not expect you to understand or agree, that is why I was not commenting to you. And trust me on this, the discussions me and my ex had, she was very much unafraid of sex. She has a certain standard she expected for herself, what she wanted for her life, and she stuck to it. I wish I had that resolve. Yeahhhh right - standard so high was impossible to achieve - uh huh - virgin at 33. Discussion is one thing, doing is totally different. And again, I know from studies, that those who waited until they were married on more average than not, had BETTER sex lives than those who were out there and then did it after they were married. oh yeah? what studies? not that I think studies are the end all on a topic like this but curious - cuz how would those people know they are havin great sex or not Lastly, it is also obvious you don't understand the term second virginity... It is of a mental and spiritual concept vice a physical one. Just for your education. And just for your education - it's denial - plain and simple - physically, mentally, emotionally - you can only have that experience once So OP, if you want true wisdom and experience from your stand point. Take it from someone who knows people who have done what you did. And from personal experience from someone who HAS had awesome sex outside of marriage, but on the inside knows and feels like he betrayed himself. It is not worth it if that is your goal. And she should take it from the rest of us too - the opposing viewpoint - and have all the real facts and opinions. And so far on this thread that 'opposing viewpoint' appears to be the majority. Now if you really don't care or you want to just try it to see what it is like before you get married. You do that if you want to as well. But, make sure that you are willing to deal with all the consequences that comes from it. Yep, protect against disease and pregnancy and best for it to be someone you really care about - love -maybe even be thinking about marriage. But doesn't have to be someone you are married to - cuz if it's bad - then you're stuck. Link to post Share on other sites
InLimbo2 Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 If you have a reference point, could you truly be objective of the man who loves you if you know that his sex is different from another person's style? Could you really not think about how someone else does something to make your toes tingle? Totally objective? This is sex and love you're talking about. I've had lovers that have caused some serious toe tinglin lol. The man I'm with now, the guy I intend to spend my life with, not only does he make my toes tingle, he makes my soul tingle! My previous sexual and relationship experiences don't diminish that - he's the entire package. Let me give you another peace of my history to illustrate this... Between the 4 women I dated that I had sex with, the 1 night stand, and the 4 prostitutes I had. Did you just say your only sexual experiences have been a 1 night stand and prostitutes??? No wonder your viewpoint is so whacked! You've never had a close intimate loving relationship that included sex. And this is the same concept with sex, relationships, or what have you. Without a reference point, we can't really have a bias opinion or unfair judgment of others or their skills. What you mean is that without a reference point you can't have a real idea of what you're getting so ignorance is bliss - but trust me, when you're getting bad sex - you know it's bad - you just don't know why if it's all you've ever had. Link to post Share on other sites
InLimbo2 Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Certain types of ignorance is bliss. Sticking with speghetti, and sense you want to take the whole idea out of content Too funny - as if spaghetti itself wasn't entirely out of context in a discussion of premarital sex Link to post Share on other sites
InLimbo2 Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Translation: if you are a virgin when you marry and are having bad sex, you won't ever know it because you have nothing to compare to (until you talk to others that rave about great sex that is and wonder what the hell you're missing). Really funny idea that it's better and more satisfying because then it's 'not familiar too soon' - I've been excited by every new lover I had - each person is an individual - it's not like you only get a limited quantity of 'not familiar' to use up in a lifetime before it gets 'familiar' and the implied 'boring' or 'routine'. What really makes good sex or bad sex? Except for that fact there should always be some concern about what you two are doing, making sure you are showing your partner respect, etc., etc., etc. But, we really would not know what good sex is because, why? We are not only learning our own sexuality, but we are learning the sexuality of another. Yes certain basics are constant, but the uniquiness and true pleasure comes with finding that special thing that makes each of us tick. Some people can find it and some can't, this does not mean they are a good or bad lover, it just mean their abilities and habits are different than yours. And through communication and sexperimentation do we discover ways to fulfill those needs with each other. And that is why many studies show that more paired virgins have better sex lives than those who have been out there and now are settled down with a partner...Sex is not familiar that soon. Link to post Share on other sites
Author MissTiger Posted November 21, 2008 Author Share Posted November 21, 2008 you sound like a nun if your 20 and havn't even kissed a guy or been on a date. Why have you never been on a date? I'm shy around guys and guys don't come up to me. I'm not ashamed that I haven't done any of those things yet. The time will come when that happens. By InLimbo2: Translation: if you are a virgin when you marry and are having bad sex, you won't ever know it because you have nothing to compare to (until you talk to others that rave about great sex that is and wonder what the hell you're missing). Really funny idea that it's better and more satisfying because then it's 'not familiar too soon' - I've been excited by every new lover I had - each person is an individual - it's not like you only get a limited quantity of 'not familiar' to use up in a lifetime before it gets 'familiar' and the implied 'boring' or 'routine'. Comparing is bad. I don't want to compare anything, why would I want to? That's what the different sex books are for, to inprove your sex life. I don't want to hear my friends and others rave about their sex lives. For the new lovers that you had did you love them? I'd rather wake up next to the man I'll be married to for the next 50 years instead of a man that I've only know for 5 days, weeks, or months. It's not like he and I will always be in one position forever. Link to post Share on other sites
You'reasian Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 ...and I'm proud of it. Sex is overrated and I see my virginity as a rare and precious gift, like a diamond. I want my husband to be the only lover I'll ever know. I want my husband to be a virgin as well. I'd be disappointed if he didn't wait for me,our marriage bed would be pretty "crowded" if you know what I mean. Any virgins here agree with me? And is there anybody who doesn't? Congratulations to you MissTiger. I can imagine this isn't easy - but you are taking a difficult, yet honorable path. Most individuals will have some sex experience in their background, though and that's to be expected. If you found the right person, whom wasn't a virgin, would you consider letting them be the one? If so (or no) why? Link to post Share on other sites
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