Trialbyfire Posted October 9, 2008 Posted October 9, 2008 Ah, but a few posts back you see fit to take a swipe at my love life based on my own threads in another section of LS, most likely as an attempt on your part at a low-blow against my comments here--Yes, an attempt at insult as a means of argument for those with little to say...How desperate, how low brow... sad... And to your earlier comment, "Yeah Right".....Yes, right, indeed. A Ph.D. from Columbia University in Classics. I'll pm you my thoughts in Greek and Latin if you would like... And no ADHD, and no monstrous 22,000 posts....Yikes... Hmmm.. Come to think of it...I have to question how "fine" a love life can be if one is that anxious... DOM Dominique, what's our first interaction in this thread? It's you telling me to lighten up and to make assumptions about me, which you don't have a clue about. Methinks you need to examine your own motives for starting the offensive. I don't have a clue about your previous threads because I haven't bothered to look them up. I can tell you right now that you're not one bit impressive for making crap up in your head and getting offended about it. Ugh.
Author fral945 Posted October 9, 2008 Author Posted October 9, 2008 So a career primary woman is a turn off to you? I can't see why that is any sort of a problem as you are free to date or not date anyone as you see fit. You obviously didn't read my original post. The question was for men: Are career women attractive to you? I gave my opinion and wanted to see how other men felt. That is all. The question wasn't meant for women, but I'm getting a lot of female opinions anyway. Or ones who pretend to agree with you? Of course, I love when everyone agrees with me, don't you?
Dominique Posted October 9, 2008 Posted October 9, 2008 Dominique, what's our first interaction in this thread? It's you telling me to lighten up and to make assumptions about me, which you don't have a clue about. Methinks you need to examine your own motives for starting the offensive. I don't have a clue about your previous threads because I haven't bothered to look them up. I can tell you right now that you're not one bit impressive for making crap up in your head and getting offended about it. Ugh. Your short term memory is quite severe, I see... Our "first interaction" was your quoting a post of mine, in which you cryptically asked "So, no serious career?--smiley-face" as if to imply that either a) I did not have one or b) that I did not think that important for a woman. Either is hardly true, of course... Then, you asked in another post, "BTW, how is your love life?" again with the winking smiley face, which I interpreted as a reference to my threads. What was the point of your asking? You should lighten up--that was a constructive piece of advice. Whether you are telling another poster to take his brain for a work-out ("try it sometime!") or reminding everyone a hundred times over that you are a driven career woman (thank God from home--what would a boss think of those 22,000 posts).... Try some breathing exercises...also a good work-out for the mind... DOM
Rooster_DAR Posted October 9, 2008 Posted October 9, 2008 Dominique, what's our first interaction in this thread? It's you telling me to lighten up and to make assumptions about me, which you don't have a clue about. Methinks you need to examine your own motives for starting the offensive. I don't have a clue about your previous threads because I haven't bothered to look them up. I can tell you right now that you're not one bit impressive for making crap up in your head and getting offended about it. Ugh. I'm going to have to side with Dominique, you seemed to have made a snide remark to me as well (So where has this gotten you so far?) or something like that.
Trialbyfire Posted October 9, 2008 Posted October 9, 2008 Your short term memory is quite severe, I see... Our "first interaction" was your quoting a post of mine, in which you cryptically asked "So, no serious career?--smiley-face" as if to imply that either a) I did not have one or b) that I did not think that important for a woman. Either is hardly true, of course... Then, you asked in another post, "BTW, how is your love life?" again with the winking smiley face, which I interpreted as a reference to my threads. What was the point of your asking? You should lighten up--that was a constructive piece of advice. Whether you are telling another poster to take his brain for a work-out ("try it sometime!") or reminding everyone a hundred times over that you are a driven career woman (thank God from home--what would a boss think of those 22,000 posts).... Try some breathing exercises...also a good work-out for the mind... DOM Ah but my advice to you could also be viewed as constructive. Perhaps it's time for you to consider how your attitude is making you happy in life. I don't know you from a hole in the ground and at this point in time, don't particularly care to. I neither need or requested your advice since this isn't my thread. Perhaps I should find a thread of yours or another post of yours and offer you some insight about learning how to differentiate between reality and something your mind creates out of thin air. Btw, lighten up!
Trialbyfire Posted October 9, 2008 Posted October 9, 2008 Of course, I love when everyone agrees with me, don't you? Not if it's fake. I'm going to have to side with Dominique, you seemed to have made a snide remark to me as well (So where has this gotten you so far?) or something like that. You're right. I did give you a smart-arse remark and apologize for it. Dominique on the otherhand started the ball rolling with her remarks to me and I won't back down from someone who makes things up in her head.
Rooster_DAR Posted October 9, 2008 Posted October 9, 2008 Not if it's fake. You're right. I did give you a smart-arse remark and apologize for it. Dominique on the otherhand started the ball rolling with her remarks to me and I won't back down from someone who makes things up in her head. No problem, muchos gracias!
Dominique Posted October 9, 2008 Posted October 9, 2008 Ah but my advice to you could also be viewed as constructive. Perhaps it's time for you to consider how your attitude is making you happy in life. I don't know you from a hole in the ground and at this point in time, don't particularly care to. I neither need or requested your advice since this isn't my thread. Perhaps I should find a thread of yours or another post of yours and offer you some insight about learning how to differentiate between reality and something your mind creates out of thin air. Btw, lighten up! ??? Um, as I said, you were the first to instigate exchange with my posts. Go back and re-read them through... ...And no, you wouldn't know me from a hole in the ground since I am nearly 6 feet tall... And cool down a bit while you are at it. Talk about attitude problems, good grief....! DOM
Trialbyfire Posted October 9, 2008 Posted October 9, 2008 ??? Um, as I said, you were the first to instigate exchange with my posts. Go back and re-read them through... ...And no, you wouldn't know me from a hole in the ground since I am nearly 6 feet tall... And cool down a bit while you are at it. Talk about attitude problems, good grief....! DOM Lighten up Dom! Our posts are displayed clearly in this thread. You can't rewrite history.
Kamille Posted October 9, 2008 Posted October 9, 2008 Lighten up Dom! Our posts are displayed clearly in this thread. You can't rewrite history. Dom, unless you were posting under another name, you were the first to cite and take issue with one of TBF's posts.
Siciliana Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 There are men like this. But they exist only in DC comics, on the planet Krypton. Wow, you certainly have a lot of criteria! And what qualities would you think this superman would expect in a woman? You consider that a lot of criteria? I assume that you aren't an over achiever in the way of trying to make your woman happy. But, I will take a stab at your game and say that Superman's lady should exibit the same love, compassion, consideration, respect and other qualities that he does. And, instead of being able to wrench the car, kill the bugs and fix the toilet, she should be able to cook a good meal, maintain the family's finances, plan the family vacations, coordinate the kids' activities, and family holidays. I dunno, call me a superhero for thinking that people like this exist.
dannydrifter Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 But, I will take a stab at your game and say that Superman's lady should exibit the same love, compassion, consideration, respect and other qualities that he does. And, instead of being able to wrench the car, kill the bugs and fix the toilet, she should be able to cook a good meal, maintain the family's finances, plan the family vacations, coordinate the kids' activities, and family holidays. And do you Siciliana provide all those qualities?
Untouchable_Fire Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 I know I can never do anything 100% correctly all the time in regards to parenting. We make mistakes. This I know. I am sure when she grows up she will have complaints about what kind of parent I was. My step-sister who had the most perfect life of any kid I have ever seen has complaints about how my dad and stepmom raised her. With that being said, my child has never had a "baby sitter". When I am at school she is with her father. The only other people who watch her are her grand parents or aunts. If the family is not available to watch her, I take her to school with me and she sits in class with me. I refuse to leave her with someone who is not blood. It is simply not worth the risk. During the day she is at school. Her father and I get along very well as far as divorce people go. I do my best to be good to him and show her that he matters to me because he matters to HER. We have dinner together every night as a family and we celebrate all holidays together. I even took him and his entire family out for dinner for his Bday last month. I even pay HIM child support, even though she lives with ME. He cannot afford to live on his own right now and needs help financially. I do this becuase I don't want to see him suffer. It is vital, as you indicated, to my daughters well being that she knows and loves her father. I am one of those women that was permanently broken on the inside because of how my parents allowed their divorce to go down. I learned form their mistakes. You are amazing! You may be the best ex wife ever, and that will be a great benefit to your daughter.
Untouchable_Fire Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 Of course, there is yet another balance to be met and this is that now men are afraid of us more successful types. Maybe they have some growing to also achieve? I know my husband has had to change his views since meeting me. He has to help around the home and we agreed that he only ever work overtime if it is an emergency so that the children really know him. I would rather have had less money (back in the day of my Husbands wage being the primary wage and my part-time income was used for special treats) You should take note that this is a good time... and place for women. Other areas of the world do not afford the same rights and luxuries you enjoy. Do you really think that men are afraid or intimidated by successful women?
Siciliana Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 And do you Siciliana provide all those qualities? I'd do all of that and ten times more.
Siciliana Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 You are amazing! You may be the best ex wife ever, and that will be a great benefit to your daughter. Thank you. It really is all about my daughter. I want to do the best I can so she does not have to go through what I did.
Eve Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 You should take note that this is a good time... and place for women. Other areas of the world do not afford the same rights and luxuries you enjoy. Do you really think that men are afraid or intimidated by successful women? It is usual that when educating other nations as part of relief work/building communities, one of the primary factors is teaching women about their human rights. Maybe traditional marraige only works in poor communities because the women have less access to work? The same as socialism only seems to work when a nation is poor/gaining strength? But we must be aware that there are yet clearer correlations between domestic violence/child abuse in parts of the world where a woman does not have her own income! I dont think that men go around saying 'I am intimidated by such and such' outrightly. Maybe career minded women are too much like hard work for an average male who just wants to come home and chill out?! My Hubby does not like my line of work, though he sympathises. When I am home he wants my full attention, dinner (cooking is shared between us), nice nights out. He is happy that the kids are all ok and will join forces with me to sort them out when they are not ok, but really, he just wants to be with me. There are times when he has to take a back seat though and if he could not deal with this we would be in trouble. I ensure that such times do not damage our relationship but I can see how someone such as my Husband could get irritated/intimidated. An all and out career minded woman would never appeal to my Husband because really he is like a little boy who needs lots of love.. and sex. As I would not be attracted to a career minded man - I must be the number one essence for a marraige to work and would expect nothing less than this.
Dominique Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 Dom, unless you were posting under another name, you were the first to cite and take issue with one of TBF's posts. ....to TrialByFire and those who've endured the cat(ty) and mouse thread-jack here... I was indeed in post #61 the first to criticize, after which TBF responded "in kind". I then reacted to a particular question about my love life, which proceeded to draw things out of hand... My sincere apology... May I blame the Dow for fuzzy research? Okay...Back to scheduled programming.... DOM
mental_traveller Posted November 25, 2008 Posted November 25, 2008 I like career women, with one caveat. Ambitious, smart women are hot, but not if they do that by killing their femininity. Stay at home housewives are generally boring as hell IMO. Basically they need to be ambitious, smart...and wearing hot lingerie under their business suits, which they then strip off to reveal (and take off) as soon as they get back from the office. Battleaxes, ballbreakers, or women who try to be like men to get ahead at work, are a huge turn-off.
Isolde Posted December 7, 2008 Posted December 7, 2008 I'm very interested in how women balance work and family. I'm pretty sure I could not handle working full time and raising kids. For that reason, I'm planning on being a career woman until I have kids, and then switching to part time work or working from home. For me, it's all about being focused NOW (while I'm young) so that I have more options later (when I'm ready to settle down). To me life is about stages and being career minded at one point doesn't mean it's gonna last forever. Many women find themselves having to support kids on a low income when crap happens like the husband gets laid off or someone gets sick or they get divorced. In almost all cases, having two good incomes is like insurance for a family, so to speak. I would be very annoyed if a guy made assumptions about me simply because I'm pursuing a further education and career.
lkjh Posted December 8, 2008 Posted December 8, 2008 I like women to be educated but I' am not attracted to career women. I guess I'm old fashion in that way. Unfortunately now of days it is almost impossible to have a one income home.
norajane Posted December 8, 2008 Posted December 8, 2008 I like women to be educated but I' am not attracted to career women. I guess I'm old fashion in that way. Unfortunately now of days it is almost impossible to have a one income home. Out of curiosity, a question for you and all the others who feel the same way: What exactly is it that you approve of a woman to do before she is married and can rely on her husband to support her? Is it ok that she has a job, because otherwise, how is she to support herself before her knight in shining armor comes along? If it's ok for her to have a job until then, is it ok for her to try to earn as much money for the hours she puts in? Why wouldn't she want to make as much for her time and effort as possible? Doesn't everyone? If it's ok for her to try to make as good a living as she can, is it ok for her to be good at her job and get promoted, so she can earn even more? At what point does a woman who is doing the best she can for herself at her job become a "career woman" and a problem for you?
annieo Posted December 8, 2008 Posted December 8, 2008 It becomes a problem when the laundry isn't getting done
Woggle Posted December 8, 2008 Posted December 8, 2008 All these men that prefer stay at home wives will get a rude awakening when she feels unfullfiled and blames him for everything. Stay at home wives are big balls of resentment who blame their husbands for everything wrong. They are no more likely to be loyal to a man than a woman who earns her own living and they can screw you bad in court. They are no less likely to be a walkaway wife than a working woman and when a working woman turns on you they are less able to ruuin you in divorce court,
Author fral945 Posted December 8, 2008 Author Posted December 8, 2008 I'm very interested in how women balance work and family. I'm pretty sure I could not handle working full time and raising kids. For that reason, I'm planning on being a career woman until I have kids, and then switching to part time work or working from home. For me, it's all about being focused NOW (while I'm young) so that I have more options later (when I'm ready to settle down). To me life is about stages and being career minded at one point doesn't mean it's gonna last forever. Many women find themselves having to support kids on a low income when crap happens like the husband gets laid off or someone gets sick or they get divorced. In almost all cases, having two good incomes is like insurance for a family, so to speak. I would be very annoyed if a guy made assumptions about me simply because I'm pursuing a further education and career. That makes sense and is perfectly reasonable, though you might want to tell guys that up front. Most career women I've met IMO have their head in the clouds and are of the belief that they will be able to work full-time and raise kids.
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