Trialbyfire Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 I answered this before, they are not the same. I know a few Asians, I always treat them with respect and they reciprocate it, but there is a definite understanding that we are different. Under the us law everyone is treated the same, assuming they are legally here. Beyond that, no one has any obligations to treat anyone else in a specific way. If a Asian hates white people, that is fine with me I don't expect to be liked by everyone and I understand people will dislike me for a variety of reasons. You're avoiding my question. Let's rephrase my question again into a two part question. 1. On a scale of 1 - 10, where 1 is the worst and 10 is the best, what would you rate a caucasian American? 2. Using the same scale, what would you rate an asian in America? This is assuming they're equal in everything else but race. Link to post Share on other sites
Sks Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 You're avoiding my question. Let's rephrase my question again into a two part question. 1. On a scale of 1 - 10, where 1 is the worst and 10 is the best, what would you rate a caucasian American? 2. Using the same scale, what would you rate an asian in America? This is assuming they're equal in everything else but race. I answered the question, you just don't like my answer. They are incomparable, in the way you want them to be compared. Your race shapes who you are(both physically and metaphorically), you can't compare the two as they will never be the exact same. I like diversity, that diversity goes away when you have people abandon their race and culture. Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 I answered the question, you just don't like my answer. They are incomparable, in the way you want them to be compared. Your race shapes who you are(both physically and metaphorically), you can't compare the two as they will never be the exact same. I like diversity, that diversity goes away when you have people abandon their race and culture. Wrong. Culture shapes you. Race is superficial. You can have an asian male who's been adopted in America as a baby, grow up to be exactly like any other caucasian boy, except that environmentally, he's being treated differently. Fix the environmental differences aka get rid of racism and segregationalism and there will be no difference. It's like saying this chinese boy would automatically gravitate towards rice because he's chinese. That's a big pile of cow poo. Link to post Share on other sites
CandyGirlXO Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 I answered the question, you just don't like my answer. They are incomparable, in the way you want them to be compared. Your race shapes who you are(both physically and metaphorically), you can't compare the two as they will never be the exact same. I like diversity, that diversity goes away when you have people abandon their race and culture. Okay now answer my question where do you live? Link to post Share on other sites
Sks Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 WTF?!?! How is this relevant to what TBF was saying? Where do you live, you seem very ignorant. You seem to be the white power type...umm it's 2008 and believe it or not there are more minorities in the US then white. You are the minority. Eventually everyone will be a mixed race, most already are. Whites make up about 75% of the US population, you are correct that a decent subsection of that population has some minor ancestry which is not European, but those traits are generally recessive and do not appear outwardly in the person. The white demographic will never die off, we aren't increasing in population as rapidly but, we will always exist. I don't think anything I have said demonstrates a desire to dominate or kill off anyone else. I simply believe in accepting who you are, instead of fighting it. Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean-Blue Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 Whites make up about 75% of the US population, you are correct that a decent subsection of that population has some minor ancestry which is not European, but those traits are generally recessive and do not appear outwardly in the person. The white demographic will never die off, we aren't increasing in population as rapidly but, we will always exist. I don't think anything I have said demonstrates a desire to dominate or kill off anyone else. I simply believe in accepting who you are, instead of fighting it. You are entitled to your stance, Sks. Just steer clear of making generalizations. Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 You are entitled to your stance, Sks. Just steer clear of making generalizations. No, I don't agree. There should be zero tolerance for racism. Link to post Share on other sites
Sks Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 Wrong. Culture shapes you. Race is superficial. You can have an asian male who's been adopted in America as a baby, grow up to be exactly like any other caucasian boy, except that environmentally, he's being treated differently. Fix the environmental differences aka get rid of racism and segregationalism and there will be no difference. It's like saying this chinese boy would automatically gravitate towards rice because he's chinese. That's a big pile of cow poo. Africans, have a much higher bone density then Asians. That is one obvious difference which is beyond superficial, the same goes for height and even personality. Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean-Blue Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 No, I don't agree. There should be zero tolerance for racism. At least he's being upfront about it. I'd rather a raging racist be upfront than on the sly. That said, I should mention that while I understand that people have preferences when dating and especially when choosing a partner for marriage, for Sks it seems his "feelings" go beyond a mere "preference" (as evidenced by his various posts on LS). I say, let him keep posting his thoughts. Such people are bound to penetrate LS. Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean-Blue Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 Africans, have a much higher bone density then Asians. That is one obvious difference which is beyond superficial, the same goes for height and even personality. I'm curious to know how your response is related to TBF's post. Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 At least he's being upfront about it. I'd rather a raging racist be upfront than on the sly. That said, I should mention that while I understand that people have preferences when dating and especially when choosing a partner for marriage, for Sks it seems his "feelings" go beyond a mere "preference" (as evidenced by his various posts on LS). I say, let him keep posting his thoughts. Such people are bound to penetrate LS. I have major issues with allowing racists to post freely about segregation. It's like LS allowing neo-nazi propaganda to be freely posted. I have major issues about using insiduous terms like personal preferences, when it comes to racism. It's this type of affrontery, that racists and bigots hide behind, while spewing seeming logical statements which are based on irrational hatreds and fears. It's nothing but stroking the fearful chittering monkey inside of them. Link to post Share on other sites
Sks Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 I'm curious to know how your response is related to TBF's post. She said everyone is the same - the differences are only superficial, I gave an example where the differences were beyond outward appearance. It took a long time for each unique race and culture to develop, evolution is amazing and it only makes sense each group of people would have different traits depending on where they lived, and the conditions that they were in. I don't see why people are in such a hurry to destroy all that work. Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean-Blue Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 I have major issues with allowing racists to post freely about segregation. It's like LS allowing neo-nazi propaganda to be freely posted. I have major issues about using insiduous terms like personal preferences, when it comes to racism. It's this type of affrontery, that racists and bigots hide behind, while spewing seeming logical statements which are based on irrational hatreds and fears. I understand what you're saying. However, I think it's important to understand why racists think the way they do. For example, Sks has not been able to substantiate anything he's said in this thread with facts. Instead, he has thrown out generalities that are not grounded in reality. This leads me to the conclusion that Sks is not speaking from independent thought but merely repeating what he's learned, what he's absorbed via the opions of others around him. Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean-Blue Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 She said everyone is the same - the differences are only superficial, I gave an example where the differences were beyond outward appearance. It took a long time for each unique race and culture to develop, evolution is amazing and it only makes sense each group of people would have different traits depending on where they lived, and the conditions that they were in. I don't see why people are in such a hurry to destroy all that work. You still did not answer her question. Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 I understand what you're saying. However, I think it's important to understand why racists think the way they do. For example, Sks has not been able to substantiate anything he's said in this thread with facts. Instead, he has thrown out generalities that are not grounded in reality. This leads me to the conclusion that Sks is not speaking from independent thought but merely repeating what he's learned, what he's absorbed via the opions of others around him. No doubt he's reading from some kind of script. You hear the same type of garbage on the internet everywhere. Most sites shut it down to ensure the non-spread of racist propaganda. Link to post Share on other sites
Sks Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 I have major issues with allowing racists to post freely about segregation. It's like LS allowing neo-nazi propaganda to be freely posted. I have major issues about using insiduous terms like personal preferences, when it comes to racism. It's this type of affrontery, that racists and bigots hide behind, while spewing seeming logical statements which are based on irrational hatreds and fears. It's nothing but stroking the fearful chittering monkey inside of them. You seem to be the one with all the hate, not me. The thing is many people have been brainwashed into being afraid of pointing out obvious difference or promoting individuality. Calling me a "Neo-Nazi" is like calling people who only like Labs dog abuser's. Hitler promoted supremacy and destruction of difference, communism did the same. I promote the opposite, I support preservation not destruction. Link to post Share on other sites
Sks Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 You still did not answer her question. Which one? Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 I'm seriously hearing "Back o' the bus", aren't you OB? Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean-Blue Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 You seem to be the one with all the hate, not me. The thing is many people have been brainwashed into being afraid of pointing out obvious difference or promoting individuality. Calling me a "Neo-Nazi" is like calling people who only like Labs dog abuser's. Hitler promoted supremacy and destruction of difference, communism did the same. I promote the opposite, I support preservation not destruction. Do you believe the white race is the supreme race? In simpler terms, do you think white people are superior to all other races? And if you say that they are "different" from other races, that no two races are the same, elaborate. What do you mean by "different". Can one be different from, yet be equal to another? Link to post Share on other sites
Sks Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 I'm seriously hearing "Back o' the bus", aren't you OB? You may be hearing it, but it simply means you are interpreting what I said incorrectly. Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 "I won't date you because your bones are denser than mine!" Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean-Blue Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 I'm seriously hearing "Back o' the bus", aren't you OB? Not sure yet, TBF. I look forward to his answer to my above question. Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 You may be hearing it, but it simply means you are interpreting what I said incorrectly. No, I'm hearing you loud and clear Sks. You're clearly talking about segregation. Link to post Share on other sites
Sks Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 Do you believe the white race is the supreme race? In simpler terms, do you think white people are superior to all other races? And if you say that they are "different" from other races, that no two races are the same, elaborate. What do you mean by "different". Can one be different from, yet be equal to another? I don't believe in a supreme race, what I do believe is that each race has its unique traits both genetically and culturally. Those traits I want to preserve. I of course believe that they are both equally important, and that no race can justify killing off or actively persecuting any other race. But that does not mean they are interchangeable. Lets look at China again, the Chinese people are amazing, all their heritage including their race - it makes them unique. Why would I want to destroy that? On the other side, why would a Asian coming into Europe, want to destroy all the unique history and genetic heritage which exists there? Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean-Blue Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 I don't believe in a supreme race, what I do believe is that each race has its unique traits both genetically and culturally. Those traits I want to preserve. I of course believe that they are both equally important, and that no race can justify killing off or actively persecuting any other race. But that does not mean they are interchangeable. Lets look at China again, the Chinese people are amazing, all their heritage including their race - it makes them unique. Why would I want to destroy that? On the other side, why would a Asian coming into Europe, want to destroy all the unique history and genetic heritage which exists their? If you mean this sincerely and are not using semantics to guise your real thoughts, then you are not a racist. But you can understand why you come across like one (refer to your posts on here). Link to post Share on other sites
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