Dating the younger woman - any seduction ideas?

[Balthazar]

There are tickets, but I am already going with someone and I don't want to change plans.

 

It will have to be Sunday.

 

Thanks folks!

[Green]

Baltazar never put the p*ssy on the pedestal, she'll drink and she'll enjoy it!

[CaliGuy]

There are tickets, but I am already going with someone and I don't want to change plans.

 

It will have to be Sunday.

 

Thanks folks!

 

Don't change your plans with friends. Tell her you already have plans with friends and you'll have to reschedule then leave it to her to contact you with new arrangements.

[Jilly Bean]

As for tonight, I have arranged dinner and some dancing at an RnB club.

 

PS- How do you know I'm megawatt hot JillyB?

I could be Quasimodo's long lost brother for all you know.

 

Because you're 6'2", thats why.

 

And Im free tonight!

 

Well, let her know you have plans for SAT, and see if you can make your date for SUN.

[Green]

Because you're 6'2", thats why.

 

And Im free tonight!

 

Well, let her know you have plans for SAT, and see if you can make your date for SUN.

 

I'm taller then that I'm often the tallest man in the room

[Jilly Bean]

I'm taller then that I'm often the tallest man in the room

 

K - you ARE the most interesting man on the planet, like the commercial.

 

Have a Dos Equi.

[Jersey Shortie]

From my own experience, I've dated older guys when I was younger. I was never nearly as serious about them as they were about me. They were fun, we did have chemistry, they took me out to nice places. But now that I am a little older , and had fun with the older men, I now enjoy men closer to my own age and have much more excitment with them. When I was younger, the differences were exciting. But now that I am older and know what it takes to make a relationship work better, the similiarities are more exciting. Hence the reason dating someone closer to my own age has been way more exciting and have had deeper connections.

 

I would just date her for fun. Do not treat her with disrespect. Do not preasure her to give you things she doesn't. Do not think that just because you see her as more serious, that she thinks of you the same way.

 

The older guys I dated were always trying to take it to the next level with me..have me move in with them....make more of a commitment. And I never wanted it to go there with them.

[Balthazar]

I understand the implications of dating a 21 year old woman as I have done so before.

She is not exactly LTR material, but that is not my expectation in any case.

 

DO I view her seriously?

 

Well, I view her as a potential sexual partner.

I like to have fun as much as anybody, and I am certainly not averse to a sexual relationship with her if that is possible.

 

I don't know how seriously she views me, but that is not really my concern.

If she is offering to go out on Saturdays and Sundays, I have to assume there is a certain level of interest.

 

The whole purpose of the thread is not if I should date the 21 year old.

That is a given - I will date her because we both want it.

 

What I need is to break through that small bit of resistance which I sense in her and which stems from our age difference and to do so without exerting pressure or losing control.

 

Like I said before, I feel she will assist in her seduction; but I DO have to seduce her. She will not just fall in my lap.

 

A Sunday date will be arranged and we'll see how things go.

[Isolde]

 

I don't know how seriously she views me, but that is not really my concern.

 

I have to disagree with this. When you're planning to seduce her, then it does become your concern and if she's expecting this to turn into more, then please don't seduce her. 21 is very young still and she probably feels like you're exciting and all and what you're planning is fine IF she feels the same way you do about keeping this casual.

[Green]

your such a bragger well I sir have some great seduction ideas... I've thus far been yelling get her drunk! drunk! drunk! but now I will give you another piece advice on how to seduce her if you can afford it go on vacation with her somewhere cool like Europe you'll laid for sure

[Balthazar]

KMT, your advice is good advice.

I know that alcohol and dancing are two great seduction methods.

 

It is not that I have been avoiding you, it is just that she doesn't drink.

So getting her drunk will be difficult.

And I wouldn't want her drunk anyway; just a bit mellower.

[Jersey Shortie]

I understand the implications of dating a 21 year old woman as I have done so before.

 

Then why ask how to date/seduce one?

 

I think considering her more conservative backround, that you shouldn't seduce her into anything she might regret later. I also think it's best to be upfront with that you don't consider this a long term thing. She is 21, you have more responsiblity in this since you are older. It basically sounds like you want advice how to pray on her weaknesses so you can get what you want from her. Not cool. *shrug*

[Lucky_One]

If you can't get a woman to go to bed with you without getting her drunk, then I think you may need to re-examine yourself.

[Balthazar]

Then why ask how to date/seduce one?

It basically sounds like you want advice how to pray on her weaknesses so you can get what you want from her. Not cool. *shrug*

 

Jersey Shortie, once again you seek to put words in people's mouths and start fights(as you have many times before).

I understand you are bitter and some guy may have played a number on you, but I am not that guy, so refrain from launching public attacks.

 

I would appreciate if you avoided commenting on my threads as you have nothing to offer but slander.

 

Peace,

[Balthazar]

If you can't get a woman to go to bed with you without getting her drunk, then I think you may need to re-examine yourself.

 

Re-read my post Lucky One and you will see that I don't really wish to follow the drink route either.

[Jersey Shortie]

You asked for advice on a public message board. I offered my thoughts. I did not call you names or said you were a bad person. I however do disagree with you wanting to seduce her and don't think it's cool. What exactly is Slanderous about any of that?

 

You are posting about how to "seduce" a 21 year old girl when you are an older man and have said you have no plans for a LTR. You yourself said that she is somewhat sheltered and serious minded. I really believe you to have more responsibilty in this situation as the older man. Do you disagree?

 

The definintion of "seduce": lure or entice away from duty, principles, or proper conduct.

 

21 year olds of today are not like the 21 year olds 40 years ago. 21 year old today have less responsiblities are are less mature in most cases. I understand that you are attracted to her and you think she is attracted to you. My advice is to not use her for your own gains. If you want to be with her, be honest about your intentions. A 21 year old is just not going to be of the same mind set as someone your age. You just haven't logically had the same life experienes. No matter how mature she is for her age.

 

Seduction is a devious game. And for someone her age, and someone your age, you wouldn't be playing fair. I am not telling you not to be with her. Only to be honest with her. Seduction does imply praying upon the weakness in someone else to get what you desire. It's a game meant to entice them into what you desire and want.

[Green]

your a woman you don't know what its like

[Lucky_One]

Re-read my post Lucky One and you will see that I don't really wish to follow the drink route either.

 

I was gearing my response to any man who thinks that getting a girl drunk is a better way to get her in bed rather than being charming, interesting, intelligent and witty.

[Jersey Shortie]

your a woman you don't know what its like

 

I'm a woman and that is why I know exactly what it's like.

[Balthazar]

Once again Jersey Shortie you seek to present matters in ways that serve your feminist agenda, and seek to sidetrack threads.

 

Concerning the meaning of seduction, go back to your American Heritage dictionary and keep on reading.

 

You will see the following.

 

 

1. To lead away from duty, accepted principles, or proper conduct.
   
2. To induce to engage in sex.
   
3. 
   
   1. 
      
   2. To entice or beguile into a desired state or position.
      
   3. To win over; attract.
      

 

As you can see, I could very well point out another definition to yours. This is the root of the problem with you JErsey SHortie.

 

You constantly seek to attack men on these forums.

 

You always assume the worst(as this serves your purpose) and offer nothing constructive.

 

You mention that I sought advice, that much is true.

Did you actually offer any advice?

or did you just seek to launch a personal attack on my preferences for young women and how I seek to "use" them?

 

By the way, have you ever commented in this fashion to other female LS posters who "use" young men?

 

Oh I forgot, when a "sister" is seducing a young guy we are in "You go Girl!" mode.

 

And that is the gist here, isn't it?

You don't like the fact that an older guy is going out with a younger woman.

I Understand;it is the problem most US woman have;

despite 40 years of feminism you can't accept that many of us guys will always like the young chicks.

Your attempts to reprogram natural male instincts aren't really working are they?

 

You are still getting dumped like a sack of potatoes for the hot young chick.

Then you enter LS and attack dudes for dating young.

 

You say not to "use" this young woman for my own gains.

If I have sex with this young lady, we will be "using" each other, and there is nothing wrong about that.

 

SO what if it doesn't lead to an LTR?

Does every copulation lead to marriage?

Does it have to?

 

Seduction is not preying on the weak.Far from it.

 

It means making a woman feel desired and romancing her. Taking her to a world where only the two of us exist and reaching a point where resistance is a moot issue. A point where there is no resistance because she wants to make love as much as I do.

 

I make no excuses about my needs as a man.

I desire this young woman, and I want to make love to her;

I feel she is reserved and needs me to help the process along.

 

As I said, I think she is aiding in her seduction; she is not unwilling.

 

It takes a woman like you Jersey to twist this and make it appear as if I am doing something evil.

 

Finally, I will repeat what I said in a previous post.

I find your posts are just private attacks and serve no use.

Even now, you have diverted this thread from the original question.

It seems you thrive on male-female gender wars.

 

I do not.

I appreciate women and always show them a good time.

But at the end of the night, I still want to f*ck them(if they are willing).

 

This is what makes me a guy and I don't think women would have it any other way.

 

In any case, refrain from giving me "Advice" in any of my future threads.

[CaliGuy]

So B, did she reschedule? What's the deal?!

[Balthazar]

Yes, we are set for Tuesday night. I have a bit of a cold so I had to cancel tonight.

 

Let's see how this goes Cali....

[Shygirl15]

JS, like Aria recently advised you, you may want to start your own thread to give us a better perspective on why you're so bitter and would use every opportunity on every thread to bash out at men. It's getting a little bit too much now, it's boring.

 

Anyway.

 

B, I'm sure you've received plenty of advice already, so just to wish you luck on your date next Tues (shame you had to cancel tonite!). Have fun and don't forget to update us!

[pretty professional]

You are awfully defensive, which says something, Balthazar, but Jersey did answer your question.

You need to be honest with her and tell her that you have no interest in her beyond a sexual partner before you become sexually involved.

It doesn't seem as if integrity is a quality you care to display, however.

[Green]

You are awfully defensive, which says something, Balthazar, but Jersey did answer your question.

You need to be honest with her and tell her that you have no interest in her beyond a sexual partner before you become sexually involved.

It doesn't seem as if integrity is a quality you care to display, however.

 

No he doesn't have to do that he just shouldn't say he wants a relationship.