Potatocakes Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 We don't HAVE to do those things. In fact, I don't do any of those things. I also initially told my boyfriend that I liked him, and then after that let him do the pursuing. It was pretty easy. All that being said, I do think it's harder to be a woman for other reasons. Very true, no heals and butt floss for me thanks. Oh course I took the same road by being the 'upfront' one in the relationship and all it did was freak him out. He didnt like when girls made the first move. He ended up persuing me though so it worked out but I agree those are optional for woman and not really the hardest things just more of a hassel.
soserious1 Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 Oh, PLEASE. Much harder for a guy. Much Much. While you guys worry about make up, what kind of underware to wear, and all that crap, we're expected to have high paying jobs, let you have a free ride, and then in the end figuring out how to approach the girl, all the while she's just eggin you on cuz she's got somebody else but you're a sucker for her. And that status last, at max till a woman is about 35 and that's only if she's a physical stunner. I'm in my early 50's beginning the process of divorcing a husband who felt I was too old to still be having sex, he's out there now boning women 20 years younger than I am,buying them dinner and drinks with the alimony check I must write for him. Me? I'm basically sitting here wondering how I'm going to live for the next 30 or so years, totally alone knowing that I am at best invisible and at worst considered visually and sexually repulsive to men because of my age.My ex has years of fun ahead of him,I have years of working and paying alimony and praying I die sooner rather than later.
Jilly Bean Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 It's easier being a chick IF YOU ARE HOT. If not, then it's probably easier being a dude.
Trimmer Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 it's easier being a chick if you are hot. If not, then it's probably easier being a dude. ... if you are hot.
Treasa Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 And that, friends, is why it's hard to be a man. Plus, we die sooner. Yes, usually.
Isolde Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 I agree to an extent. Women can't win. If we're assertive we're being masculine. If we're not assertive we're being coy and unsexy or even "playing games." *rolls eyes* That said, if I ask a guy out, I leave it up to him to follow up. Works better that way I think
Jersey Shortie Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 I've been feeling like women can't win lately. Even when you have a relationship with a man, he will still be desiring and wanting other women other then you. So really the message is women jsut can't win no matter what they do.
Treasa Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 I've been feeling like women can't win lately. Even when you have a relationship with a man, he will still be desiring and wanting other women other then you. So really the message is women jsut can't win no matter what they do. Speak for yourself. My boyfriend only wants to be with me.
TheSilentType Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 so my conclusion is it is HARD BEING A CHICK! Is anyone with me? or am I on my own here??! I hereby declare this balderdash. Try having to go upto someone and then having them reject you....no explanation, nothing....just a lie and thats it Plus you could be a butt ugly girl and still get action as long as you're willing to spread it
monkey00 Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 :rolleyes: No one believes that crap. It's much harder for a male to go anywhere in the dating scene because females are ultra-picky (since they must pick the best father to inseminate their eggs). Not only that but conversely, males are so rabidly eager to shoot their load in a vagina that they'll very easily compromise on their standards to get it on with a girl. The fierce competition between guys for any available female combined with natural female pickyness (and their recent empowerment in the last few decades) makes it so that many are left to bite the dust. Look at the "In Search Of..." section. You see like 4-5 new stories of "I can't get any girl interested in me, I get rejected, blablabla" every single day. It's the same in virtually any community that pertains to dating. On the other hand you see almost no example of girls complaining that they absolutely can't get any male interest. Their dilemma isn't getting A guy interested in them, it's getting THE right guy. All females have to do most of the time is pick a guy from the ones that court her. Look at the dating sites. So many horror stories that you see with guys that PM hundreds and hundreds of females, only to never get any positive reply, or in some cases, not even one reply. If you're a guy and wait for females to PM you, you're most probably NEVER going to get a single reply. Unless you look like Baba Yaga or are old, if you're female, go into a bar for a whole evening. Go drink alone. Wait and watch what happens. I'm going to have to agree with several of your points. In the old days, men had a pretty rough time. They had high expectations to uphold the family, work hard, bring the bacon home, and get a good education. Nowadays any guy can do whatever the hell he pleases, drink beer all day long and play xbox on his bed. You know what the funny thing about society, independence and a materialist society is? The more choices and options we're given, the more problems that come along with it. Society as a whole takes too much for granted. However, I can agree that kids nowadays have a much harder time with their peers and themselves. With the abundance of social networking sites, cell phones, emails, computers. Kids are expected to mature more quickly than they have in the past, especially girls. Now that's a serious pressing issue we should discuss here.
Geishawhelk Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 Right, so we have several inferences going on, here.... Let's see if we can split this up, because wires are gonna get crossed otherwise.... Is it harder being a chick in the dating game?Is it harder being a chick on the professional work circuit?Is it harder being a chick in the domestic circuit?Is it harder being a chick combining the professional work and domestic circuit?Is it harder being a chick raising a family?is it harder being a chick during sex?Is it harder being a chick on the religious front? There you go. Answers on a postcard please. Work must be original and of no more than 20 words. Work will be marked on syntax, spelling, grammar, punctuation and composition. GO!!
Author beautiful_stranger Posted September 23, 2008 Author Posted September 23, 2008 It's easier being a chick IF YOU ARE HOT. If not, then it's probably easier being a dude. That may be the case... ONLY temporarily. In today's society, to stay in a decent relationship, a woman must keep the man interested. That means to stay attractive physically, be intelligent AND to maintain an awesome personality. Because why? A hot chick can never stay hot, she will get old, once over 30 years of age, she's left to compete with those in their 20s. This goes for both married and single women. This society puts more than enough emphasis on looks. Just look at the way media portrays women, can you think of any music video with a butt ugly chick in it?? Any major female celebrity who's not drop dead gorgeous? and how much are these women paid for being good looking? On the otherhand, there are less good looking male actors who are awarded mainly because of their talent. Thus a hot chick's awesomeness is much much short-lived than that of a guy. So then it seems a chick must outsmart the man in order to keep him, because she knows her looks will not stay... even if she is Jessica Alba. =D Now that's what I mean by hard! To make this even harder, most hot chicks are pampered with male attention from a very early stage of their lives. They are used to getting what they want without much effort, yet when they reach an age where they realize that there are many younger girls who are equally hot or better still even hotter, she's left utterly bewildered... This is in the case of a hot girl. The less hot girl must learn to jade her personality at a younger age, this in a way provides her an advantage, but not an absolute one.. There's always younger and hotter girls out there who would have her man gawking at them. And so, in order to KEEP a man, a chick must be either ultra lucky such that her man loves her for only her or ultra smart so as to beat the influence of this superficial society... My other point is that, women are subject to the constraint of social norms in terms of pursuing a man. i.e. some women talk about initiating the pursuit of a man, and then she leaves it to the man to do the chase, leaving the ball back in his court, this is not a full pursuit. I personally would chase a man, BUT i also understand anything more aggressive than initiation will "chase the guy away". Whereas a guy's persistence can and usually does change a girl's mind (unless he has some other major flaws) and not be regarded as being desperate. Therefore, it is harder being a girl, coz she's not completely free to pursue a guy, and her only option is to wait to be picked...
Krajt Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 And that, friends, is why it's hard to be a man. Plus, we die sooner. With women like shygirl it is a blessing in disguise. I understand why Kurt Cobain committed suicide and I don't blame him. A woman like Courtney Love or suicide? Suicide wins eveytime.
Krajt Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 Speak for yourself. My boyfriend only wants to be with me. I bet he fantasises about other women. Most men do, if your man doesn't then there is something wrong with him. I have a girlfriend, but that doesn't stop me fantasising over her mother, her best friends and this gorgeous banker who serves me all the time. It's wrong, I know, but I'm looking and not touching and I bet women are wired like this too, they just won't admit it.
CommitmentPhobe Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 life is hard, unless you are capable of deluding yourself. that doesn't make it bad though.
Treasa Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 I bet he fantasises about other women. Most men do, if your man doesn't then there is something wrong with him. I have a girlfriend, but that doesn't stop me fantasising over her mother, her best friends and this gorgeous banker who serves me all the time. It's wrong, I know, but I'm looking and not touching and I bet women are wired like this too, they just won't admit it. I know what he fantasizes about. I won't share it because it's not typical (in fact, most people might find it odd) and I promised him I'd never tell anyone about it, but let's just say that it's NOT about me, and I'm fine with it. I don't always fantasize about him either. However, he's never going to cheat on me or leave me for someone else. That I know for sure.
Krajt Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 However, he's never going to cheat on me or leave me for someone else. That I know for sure. Where have I said that was his objective? You seem to be showing your insecurity there and who are you trying to convince he will never leave you? Me or you? All I have said is that men and women will fantasises about other people regardless of their marital status.
Treasa Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 Where have I said that was his objective? You seem to be showing your insecurity there and who are you trying to convince he will never leave you? Me or you? All I have said is that men and women will fantasises about other people regardless of their marital status. You replied to a reply of mine to this statement: "I've been feeling like women can't win lately. Even when you have a relationship with a man, he will still be desiring and wanting other women other then you. So really the message is women jsut can't win no matter what they do." I told her to speak for herself. My boyfriend isn't going to start wanting other women more than me. It has nothing to do with fantasies. You're the one who brought up fantasies, to which I replied that I know what his fantasies are, and am fine with them, and still stick with my original statement that my boyfriend isn't going to start wanting to be with other women more than me.
geekinthepink Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 Contrary to popular belief, it is actually alot harder being a girl. Guys are always in an assertive position, because they can choose and pick whoever they wish to pursue. Whereas girls are always passive in a dating situation, if they really like the guy they need to somehow hint the guy to do the chase.. even if the girl initiated the chase, she will have to let the guy take the lead eventually in developing the relationship.. otherwise she will appear freaky/overpowering... just imagine a girl initiating sexual advances on a guy... so my conclusion is it is HARD BEING A CHICK! Is anyone with me? or am I on my own here??! I AGREE 100% i am so glad someone else feels this way Double standards are so annoying.
Treasa Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 I think it all depends on the type of guy you pursue. Me, I like the geeky dudes who spend their time writing, playing D&D, etc. I told my boyfriend I liked him, and he in turn asked me out, and we've been together for the past 4.5 years. I also don't believe in fitting myself into a shape that society creates for me. I have no interest in being married or having kids, I like looking at naked women (being bi and all) and was raised to put myself and my own accomplishments before focusing on a relationship. I spend myself working out, going to martial arts and Weapons classes, and playing video games. I tend not to wear makeup or dresses unless it's a special occasion. My boyfriend isn't very typical either. Not by a long shot.
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