beautiful_stranger Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 Contrary to popular belief, it is actually alot harder being a girl. Guys are always in an assertive position, because they can choose and pick whoever they wish to pursue. Whereas girls are always passive in a dating situation, if they really like the guy they need to somehow hint the guy to do the chase.. even if the girl initiated the chase, she will have to let the guy take the lead eventually in developing the relationship.. otherwise she will appear freaky/overpowering... just imagine a girl initiating sexual advances on a guy... so my conclusion is it is HARD BEING A CHICK! Is anyone with me? or am I on my own here??!
Jersey Shortie Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 Here here! Being a chick ain't easy. Plus, we have to walk in heels, have floss up our butt and cake ourselves with make up. (Not that I don't like doing those things sometimes...i can do without the floss though)
westernxer Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 Existence is suffering. LOL - Matthew 78:23
Jersey Shortie Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 Matthew probably never had to wear a thong and even he knew that.
Geishawhelk Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 Actually, underwear didn't become fashionable anywhere until the beginning of the 19th century.... As we have been subjected to living in Patriarchal societies for nearly the whole of western civilisation's existence, it seems old habits die hard. Not only is it difficult being a woman, even now in the 21st century, on a social level, there is still a vast disparity in salaries and high-powered jobs, a huge imbalance in the sharing - or otherwise! - of domestic chores - and let's not even begin to discuss the various religions and all their views and stances of women!
Treasa Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 Here here! Being a chick ain't easy. Plus, we have to walk in heels, have floss up our butt and cake ourselves with make up. (Not that I don't like doing those things sometimes...i can do without the floss though) We don't HAVE to do those things. In fact, I don't do any of those things. I also initially told my boyfriend that I liked him, and then after that let him do the pursuing. It was pretty easy. All that being said, I do think it's harder to be a woman for other reasons.
Legend Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 Oh, PLEASE. Much harder for a guy. Much Much. While you guys worry about make up, what kind of underware to wear, and all that crap, we're expected to have high paying jobs, let you have a free ride, and then in the end figuring out how to approach the girl, all the while she's just eggin you on cuz she's got somebody else but you're a sucker for her.
Geishawhelk Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 yes, but as you created the kind of society that requres this, you've only got yourselves to blame.....
Geishawhelk Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 (what have you done to that poor cat - ??)
Jersey Shortie Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 Legend, I really don't know any woman that expects to have a free ride considering the legions of women that do work now-a-days. Men should try pooping something the size of a small watermelon out of something the size of an apple, nursing it, changing your body forever for your man's children, and then having him stare at 20 year old college students that never had children.
Legend Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 (what have you done to that poor cat - ??) It's all....part of the.... plan
djhall Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 just imagine a girl initiating sexual advances on a guy... And that is bad why?!?!?! The most awesome sex partner I ever had inititated our first encounter by following me into my bedroom after I had just gotten out of the shower, closing the door, grabbing the towel and yanking it off, putting both hands on my chest, shoving me onto my back on the bed, and climbing on top. :love: :love: AWESOME!!!
Geishawhelk Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 We have an unfortunate situation here. In a nutshell: Women have been oppressed and suppressed for years. This isn't a gripe, it's fact, and history confirms this. Finally, in the swinging 60's, we got the pill. Some, like Mary Whitehouse, and Victoria Gillick got onto their high horses and campaigned for morality in one corner, and against abortion in the other, but on the whole, Women's Lib was born. Men found it difficult to handle, and to a certain extent a glass ceiling still exists in many social, industrial and religious sectors, anywhere. In many cases, women have swung the pendulum too far, and might feel that in order to succeed in a man's world, they have to be more 'bloke-ish' than blokes. out-drink them, out-drive them, anbd out-do them in business and commerce. Many high-flying successful women have been under the impression that femininity has had to be sacrificed to gain the upper hand. My take on this vastly generalised view, is that men and women ARE different. There should be differences. We should recognise and value the differences, and instead of trying to blur the edges and wipe them out, be grateful for them, and use them. For the mutual benefit of all.
Trimmer Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 To the OP: Is your thesis that being a woman is hard, (as in your subject line) or that being a woman is harder than being a man, as you start your post? These are two completely different arguments. If your point is that it's hard being a woman, I can completely agree, although I am sensible enough to know that I should never presume to know exactly what a woman's experience is in life. Likewise, neither can a woman presume to know exactly what is my (or all men's) experience in life, which brings me to the utter futility of men or women trying to conclude that one side or the other has the "harder" life. Other than bragging (or whining) rights (woe is me...), and saddling onesself with a self-defeating burden, what progress is made in advancing such a premise anyway? I much prefer this: We have an unfortunate situation here. In a nutshell: Women have been oppressed and suppressed for years. This isn't a gripe, it's fact, and history confirms this. Finally, in the swinging 60's, we got the pill. Some, like Mary Whitehouse, and Victoria Gillick got onto their high horses and campaigned for morality in one corner, and against abortion in the other, but on the whole, Women's Lib was born. Men found it difficult to handle, and to a certain extent a glass ceiling still exists in many social, industrial and religious sectors, anywhere. In many cases, women have swung the pendulum too far, and might feel that in order to succeed in a man's world, they have to be more 'bloke-ish' than blokes. out-drink them, out-drive them, anbd out-do them in business and commerce. Many high-flying successful women have been under the impression that femininity has had to be sacrificed to gain the upper hand. My take on this vastly generalised view, is that men and women ARE different. There should be differences. We should recognise and value the differences, and instead of trying to blur the edges and wipe them out, be grateful for them, and use them. For the mutual benefit of all.
Jaytb Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 well both men and women can be assertive when it comes to dating. No one says you can't express interest in someone if you like them. I don't know if it's harder to be a man or women, biologically it's harder for women because of childbirth. But more or less, women go after alpha male types, which makes it hard for non-alphas to find a women. Not to mention how selective women usually are (not all though). We (men) are judged on everything: looks, height, income, car, etc. (again, not everyone is so judgmental, but many are). I mean if you're a short guy, most girls won't look at you, but for women, men don't care about height (usually). If you're not confident and successful, then you won't get as much attention from women, whereas many men don't care for confidence or success in a women (I know i don't)
Treasa Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 I think there are a lot of generalizations being made. With the exception of the fact that I think that women have it rougher than men physically (freaking menses), life is what you make of it. My family had very high expectations of me as far as how far I'd go in my education and what kind of job I'd get. However, I don't really feel the urge to get married, have kids, or doll up just for some dude. I prefer to spend my time on my hobbies (martial arts, video games, etc.) and my boyfriend. Speaking of which, my boyfriend isn't what most women would find handsome, but I adore him and think he's cute as hell. He's not rich and doesn't drive an expensive car, but I don't give a crap about that stuff.
Serph Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 :rolleyes: No one believes that crap. It's much harder for a male to go anywhere in the dating scene because females are ultra-picky (since they must pick the best father to inseminate their eggs). Not only that but conversely, males are so rabidly eager to shoot their load in a vagina that they'll very easily compromise on their standards to get it on with a girl. The fierce competition between guys for any available female combined with natural female pickyness (and their recent empowerment in the last few decades) makes it so that many are left to bite the dust. Look at the "In Search Of..." section. You see like 4-5 new stories of "I can't get any girl interested in me, I get rejected, blablabla" every single day. It's the same in virtually any community that pertains to dating. On the other hand you see almost no example of girls complaining that they absolutely can't get any male interest. Their dilemma isn't getting A guy interested in them, it's getting THE right guy. All females have to do most of the time is pick a guy from the ones that court her. Look at the dating sites. So many horror stories that you see with guys that PM hundreds and hundreds of females, only to never get any positive reply, or in some cases, not even one reply. If you're a guy and wait for females to PM you, you're most probably NEVER going to get a single reply. Unless you look like Baba Yaga or are old, if you're female, go into a bar for a whole evening. Go drink alone. Wait and watch what happens.
Treasa Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 :rolleyes: No one believes that crap. It's much harder for a male to go anywhere in the dating scene because females are ultra-picky (since they must pick the best father to inseminate their eggs). Not all chicks care about having kids. I don't plan on having any, so that point is rather moot. As long as he's well-hung and good in the sack, that's as far as I care sexually.
Serph Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 Duh, it doesn't matter, the craving is in your DNA. The law of attraction is the exact same.
Treasa Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 If you saw a picture of my boyfriend, you'd think otherwise. I find him hot because he's a good roleplayer, has a good sense of humor, is witty, etc.
djhall Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 I find him hot because he's a good roleplayer Are we talking a good bedroom roleplayer, something like Ren Faire, or is he just really good at staying in character while chatting in World of Warcraft?
Treasa Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 He doesn't like Ren Faires all that much. We're talking mostly tabletop. Meaning, he's a ROLEplayer, not a ROLLplayer. We have another friend who's a power gamer and completely irritating. Another thing that blows my mind about my boyfriend is his immense Star Wars/D&D knowledge.
lovestruck818 Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 Oh, PLEASE. Much harder for a guy. Much Much. While you guys worry about make up, what kind of underware to wear, and all that crap, we're expected to have high paying jobs, let you have a free ride, and then in the end figuring out how to approach the girl, all the while she's just eggin you on cuz she's got somebody else but you're a sucker for her. yeah but any girl who expects a free ride or accepts one is an idiot. Women should work too. Everyone should work and pull equal weight. It's b/c of reasons like this women are 2nd to men. Truthfully I'm sick of it. Wake up, get an education, get a job. Women can be and do anything they want. We don't need men to provide for us.
Shygirl15 Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 so my conclusion is it is HARD BEING A CHICK! Is anyone with me? or am I on my own here??! Not sure if you're alone, but I'm definitely not with you. I enjoy being a chick so much; I enjoy holding the upper hand in a relationship, I enjoy being chased at and not having to do the same, I enjoy using my feminine side to manipulate ..and the list goes on and on .
ianandris Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 Not sure if you're alone, but I'm definitely not with you. I enjoy being a chick so much; I enjoy holding the upper hand in a relationship, I enjoy being chased at and not having to do the same, I enjoy using my feminine side to manipulate ..and the list goes on and on . And that, friends, is why it's hard to be a man. Plus, we die sooner.
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