carhill Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 Sure there is....when a spouse has sex with someone else. That would be the operative "emotion operating without the benefit of intellect"
bish Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 That would be the operative "emotion operating without the benefit of intellect" Ok John Raine is not insane;) No, that would be staying with someone blindly because you were desperate. Emotion had nothing to do with it. It was all logic. Wife cheats Can't stand to look at wife Made decicion to get rid of that which I can no longer stand. By the way I love that quote from Passenger 57.
carhill Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 I follow the logic completely and agree with it. In some circumstances, and I might opine most, logic should also dictate the timeline. Rash, emotionally driven decisions can have marked effects on the future. Remember, everyone's circumstances, life path and potentials are unique. Yeah, Bruce Payne did a fantastic job as Raine. Pure sociopathy I also loved Bernie Lively's deadpan as Chief Biggs.
Trialbyfire Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 While polygraph tests aren't 100% accurate since people can beat them, from my understanding, there's no reason why you couldn't ask her to take one. Do it if it helps to rebuild your trust in her. If she refuses, she's got something to hide.
angie2443 Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 Yes, the odds are high, IF YOU ASK THE RIGHT QUESTIONS, that the emotional affair would come out as a result of a polygraph.. This is important if you're going to have her do the polygraph test. If she doesn't believe she cheated emotionally, the test won't detect anything. If you ask specific questions, like if she hid things from you ect., then the test would probably detect it. I don't completely trust these test though. From what I understand, people can sometimes fool them.
Trialbyfire Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 Some potential polygraph questions: Have you ever been so attracted to Friend X, enough to want to have sex with him, while married or in an exclusive relationship with myself?Have you ever indulged in cyber, textual or phone sex with Friend X, while married or in an exclusive relationship with myself?Have you ever indulged in sexual flirting with intent, with Friend X, while married or in an exclusive relationship with myself?
bish Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 Yeah, Bruce Payne did a fantastic job as Raine. Not to threadjack, but I wonder why he hasn't been in more movies? He's a great actor. I've only seen him in 2 mainstream movies, 57 where he was a terrorist, and another movie where he was gay(can't remember the movie's name)
carhill Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 Not to threadjack, but I wonder why he hasn't been in more movies? He's a great actor. I've only seen him in 2 mainstream movies, 57 where he was a terrorist, and another movie where he was gay(can't remember the movie's name) You might be thinking of his role as Echo in "The Fruit Machine". IMO, he has the presence and projection of a theatre actor, which might have worked against him in film. Imagine if he had gotten the Bruce Wayne role instead of Michael Keaton In the past, I confused him and Robert Patrick (ala Terminator). His character in P57 would have passed that poly with no problems; it would've believed the world was flat
Trialbyfire Posted September 27, 2008 Posted September 27, 2008 Emotional affairs are strange beasts. In retrospect, a psychopath can probably beat a polygraph test. You mentioned something about the past. Has she had multiple affairs?
jerbear Posted September 27, 2008 Posted September 27, 2008 polygraphs can be defeated with prior training. For instance, if you say and do the opposite thing, you can condition yourself to not sweat, make faces, or believe a lie; how could a "lie" that the tester believes in be a lie?
Trialbyfire Posted September 27, 2008 Posted September 27, 2008 Polygraphs are based on heart rate, blood pressure and respiratory rate, beyond the external factors of sweatiness, etc. That's some kind of conditioning!
jerbear Posted September 27, 2008 Posted September 27, 2008 The test giver gives benchmarking questions. For some questions, like are you XYZ age, you can say the correct age but think of doing something to your SO.
Trialbyfire Posted September 27, 2008 Posted September 27, 2008 So you give false base readings, is what you're saying. Is that accurate?
jerbear Posted September 27, 2008 Posted September 27, 2008 Yelp, in a mischievious way. Like shaking your head up and down and saying no.
Sabledoux Posted September 27, 2008 Posted September 27, 2008 If I can get her to take a polygraph test, can it detect her feelings toward the guy and can it detect if there was an emotional affair or if it was just friendship? Gullible, I have found a website that offers alot of information on how to catch a cheater, you are able to have a conversation recorded, lies cant be detected and the results are given to you via a website. They also have a site where you can find a friend to essential spy on anyone for you, this service is free. I believe you have to live close to specific cities. Oh the site is www.howtodetectalie.com
In Like Flynn Posted September 28, 2008 Posted September 28, 2008 Do you mean the lies can be detected??
sadintexas Posted September 28, 2008 Posted September 28, 2008 My experience has been that if a relationship is being hidden from the spouse then odds are it's not all above board. There were probably AT LEAST traces of emotional involvement. Since your concern is that she may go there again, I personally would try to get to the bottom of WHY she needed someone else in her life. What was lacking to cause this. It doesn't even mean that it had anything to do with you. It could have been about issues she had about herself, but there is still a reason why she didn't come to you for friendship. That is what I would focus on and accept the other for it is. I feel that putting your effort and energy into strengthening your marriage would gain you much more than trying to figure out the intricate details of how involved that was. Especially since it's over.
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