Tomcat33 Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 Are you suggesting he wear a skirt, on the streets instead of shorts or as opposed to shorts on the streets a skirt he wear a skirt? Instead of shorts? :lmao::lmao: That's EXACTLY what I meant, God you're good!
Tomcat33 Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 He would definitely attract attention if he wore a skirt. Yeah! Yaahhh!! Let the woman carsh into a light post for a change because we are checking out the gams on some dude in a mini skirt! (oh...no... wait...we don't need that do we?)
Storyrider Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 Lights probably has very nice legs. He just needs to show them off. But we love you for your mind, too, of course.
Tomcat33 Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 Lights probably has very nice legs. He just needs to show them off. But we love you for your mind, too, of course. Yeahhhh yeaahhhhh what she said, "take it OOOOFF"
Storyrider Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 Yeahhhh yeaahhhhh what she said, "take it OOOOFF" :lmao: Bartender, I'll have what she's having. And pour one for the gentleman in the skirt while you're at it.
djhall Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 :lmao::lmao: That's EXACTLY what I meant, God you're good! A man finds no sweeter voice in all the world than that which chants his praise.
djhall Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 Yeahhhh yeaahhhhh what she said, "take it OOOOFF" More like, "Good god man, shave! Shave!"
djhall Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 Yeah! Yaahhh!! Let the woman carsh into a light post for a change because we are checking out the gams on some dude in a mini skirt! No, you'd probably crash because you were blinded by the sunlight reflecting off the white legs that hadn't been outside a pair of pants in a decade!
djhall Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 He would definitely attract attention if he wore a skirt. What, exactly, is the protocol for what a man should wear under the skirt? Can we pull a Britteney and go commando, do we need to go with manties (google it), or do you really want to see a flash or tighty whities?
Tomcat33 Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 :lmao: Bartender, I'll have what she's having. And pour one for the gentleman in the skirt while you're at it. :lmao: I might still be drunk from last night. A man finds no sweeter voice in all the world than that which chants his praise. Oh I am full of praise baby but I'll make you work for it, you know "treat em'mean keep em keen." No, you'd probably crash because you were blinded by the sunlight reflecting off the white legs that hadn't been outside a pair of pants in a decade! What's wrong with you change your pants already, and for goodness sake shower too. Don't worry we got you covered you can borrow our self tanners.
Tomcat33 Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 What, exactly, is the protocol for what a man should wear under the skirt? Can we pull a Britteney and go commando, do we need to go with manties (google it), or do you really want to see a flash or tighty whities? Why, an elephant thong of course! Need you ask?
djhall Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 Why, an elephant thong of course! Need you ask? What it the elephant raises its trunk? I don't think a skirt would have the same retaining properties most pants do which may create a noticeable horizontal deflection in the front of the skirt. A thong? You just want a flash of me bare bum!
Taramere Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 I still see nothing wrong with whoever asks, pays. That solves the whole problem. I don't get what the big deal is. Honestly it's never been an issue for me. If a guy wants to pay, I'm not going to have a cliched, overdone "charming" conversation with him, as Taramere admits will often happen in Sweden on a first date. Haha. That outlook is probably why you keep getting banned from here and having to come back under different usernames. I urge you, almost infamous, to think harder about developing and using a little of that "clichéd charm." Mainly because although I prefer more original and exciting conversation than that. It's evident from your lacklustre posts here that you don't have the intellect, sophistication, wit or originality to provide it. Yes, yes I know that you're a schoolteacher, and that you've visited France. My point stands. So on top of everything else, you now want the man to provide the original and exciting conversation that you yourself are evidently unable to bring to the table. Then you ask.... I don't get why people are taking issue with this. They're debating it. Attempting to look at an issue from a variety of perspectives. Possibly in order to extend, refine or clarify their own thinking about it.
Taramere Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 GREAT post, and so, so true. I've seen men fall all over themselves over a pretty gal. All she can do is stand around and look pretty. She may not have a thing going for her but her looks, yet there's a waiting line of guys with their wallets opened waiting to empty them. There is way too much shallowness in many people. Thanks, dm. I think that if you've been seeing someone for a while and then they decide to splash out on you, then that means something. Suggests that you've earned it....that their attraction to and affection for you is deepening and so on. And in that situation (ie where something real has developed) then even the most conventional people probably don't object to the woman treating the man as well as vice versa. Generally my feeling is that special treats and the business of splashing out are best saved for people who have become genuinely special to you. So a guy who did the going Dutch thing for three months, then suddenly insisted on treating me to a meal out because he'd started to really like me and want to demonstrate his affection; that would mean something. Someone you don't even know wanting to show off, impress you etc with a meal in a fancy restaurant....I think that's sweet, but I also find it uncomfortable. More so if I feel in the course of the date that the person really isn't my type or that it's just not going well - maybe because I'm not theirs. I don't want someone treating me as though I'm special because they think I've got a nice bottom. I want them to treat me as though I'm special for reasons that I can actually relate to and respect....if that makes sense? If there's chemistry between you and another person, it'll be there regardless of what kind of date you have. If there isn't chemistry, at least on a casual date where the emphasis is on both having fun rather than on one person "treating" another, there's less need for that "let's stick with being friends" message; more chance that you will actually become genuine friends.
westernxer Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 Must everything be analysed to the core...sometimes a man paying for a meal whilst on a date...is JUST a man paying for a meal whilst on a date...no grand philosophical argument about it! That's how I look at it.
almost famous Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 Name-calling will not be tolerated.
audrey_1 Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 Back on topic, I think. Yesterday, I offered to go dutch on lunch with casual guy who I'm really needing to write out of my life, especially since he showed up with a hickey on his neck the size of a grapefruit, splotched poorly with a terribly wrong shade of make-up. I asked him whether he'd played paintball recently, and he lied to me, saying it was a hiking accident. After I sat in silence for 20 minutes sipping my drink, he came clean. He ended up paying.
almost famous Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 Yes, yes I know that you're a schoolteacher, and that you've visited France. My point stands. . I'm really sorry you're having self-esteem issues, demonstrated by you pointing this out. Since you think these things are a big deal, obviously you are unsatisfied with your own place in life. You can do it, hon! You can travel abroad and obtain a professional job, too! Why don't you read one of Oprah's Book Club's books, like The Secret? Doing that might help bring your confidence level up! Visualize it! You can see it, you can do it! Live your dreams! You can be a sophisticated gal, too! Seriously, Taramere, you can travel to France, too, AND get a job. Don't sell yourself short of your possibilities and dreams!
Taramere Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 Taramere, if you had any basic reading comprehension and inference skills, you would have easily gathered that the reason I mentioned visiting France was because I paid for the trip as a gift to a man I was seeing....it was to show that I am giving, and that if a man asks me out and pays for one date that it will all equal out eventually in the course of the relationship. It wasn't to show off any sophisticated traits I have. I even stated that after the first date, I do offer to pay and reciprocate (but you had trouble understanding basic English.) I was simply stating the same stance that many other female posters on this thread have taken on the topic. I must admit, I generally just skim your posts. As far as I can ascertain, you can be summed up with the words "schoolteacher with a recurring weight problem and an extremely immature outlook on life." This time, in an attempt to be fair, I read your posts a little more closely. I can't say it's changed my original impression. As to your assessment of my reading comprehension and academic ability goes, I'm not going to start pulling out my academic and professional credentials. Suffice to say that your assessment that I'm bordering on retarded and in need of a basic reading comprehension course at a local community college suggests you're very weak in the area of assessing and commenting with any accuracy on the academic abilities of others. Which is alarming, given your job. If a woman wants the old fashioned, chivalrous touches, then it's only fair to put some effort into being polite to the host. One option could be to spring for after dinner coffee and liqueurs as a "thank you for dinner" gesture - especially if you don't want to see the person again, and won't have an opportunity to return the treat.
Dexter Morgan Posted October 22, 2008 Posted October 22, 2008 Men, you have to stop thinking that this is a money issue. it's not! It really has nothing to do with money. You Must pay. if you don't she will resent you. You're losing point with this nonsense move to get the female to pay for the date. I gladly pay, but what is the man getting out of it? don't say your company, because you are getting that from him as well.
Jersey Shortie Posted October 22, 2008 Posted October 22, 2008 I see men paying as more of a symbolic gesture in the dating process. It denotes that a man is genuinely interested in being with a woman, and because of this attraction and interest he has for her he is willing to extend his own hard earnings to show her that he cares about pleasing her. If you think about it a pretty unconditional move and a lot of investment on a guy's part very early on. I have a LOT of appreciation for that in men. To strip a man of that, and also yourself as woman is doing both genders a disservice. If a guy EVER asked me out and at the end of the date expected me to pitch in or pay I would feel he saw me as any other woman out there, basically nothing special. I had one time where a guy hinted at me going dutch on our third date and I never saw him again, it turned me right off. I agree with this. I will also add that it can look selfish either way. If a guy has issues paying or if a girl feels she is entitled to his money. There is a balance.
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