How many of you are over weight ?

[Trialbyfire]

"Men Attracted to Power" Topic: TBF, although I'm not claiming to speak for all men, I agree with Balthazar. From my personal experience and from seeing my friends, we are attracted to power, but it's not a big drawing point in a woman. Men love power, not power by proxy. Riding the coattails of a chick with power shows the guy that the doesn't have any power of his own, which is something many guys just aren't willing to live with. If a guy digs a chick who has power, that's one thing, but chances are, he won't be after her specifically for her power.

JB, you're usually reasonable instead of one of the consistent nags on LS, so I'm going to respond to you. No one quality ultimately defines attraction unless the guy/woman is so incredibly shallow, he/she's only looking for a set of big breasts/big dick. This has been expressed by myself previously within this exact thread.

 

There are definitely men attracted to power in a woman. I can guarantee it through personal exposure to such. This doesn't mean that the men who are, are beta males. Many are in equal or greater positions of power. If you've ever heard the term "power couples", you'll understand what I mean.

[vonerik012]

TBF, maybe you are confusing men being attracted to "power" for men who are very materialistic, or perhaps insecure that they are being used for money, so they seek a woman with a comparable income.

 

 

You had at least 3 men on this thread tell you men do not care about a womans power, yet you seem to insist they do, lol. Are you a man? I think I would have came acorss atleast one man in my life that was putting a womans" power" above her looks, but never have, and most likely never will.

 

Does this mean men solely care about a woman body? No. They care about how a woman treats them. If she has power and is sweet and nice , then great. If she has no power, but it sweet and nice, then also great.

[vonerik012]

JB, you're usually reasonable instead of one of the consistent nags on LS, so I'm going to respond to you. No one quality ultimately defines attraction unless the guy/woman is so incredibly shallow, he/she's only looking for a set of big breasts/big dick. This has been expressed by myself previously within this exact thread.

 

There are definitely men attracted to power in a woman. I can guarantee it through personal exposure to such. This doesn't mean that the men who are, are beta males. Many are in equal or greater positions of power. If you've ever heard the term "power couples", you'll understand what I mean.

 

Do you even know what alpha males are? Or do you just make up definitions to your own liking? Alpha males are all about bedding as many women as possible, and having the hottest, and youngest chick on their arm. They are the last type of males on Earth who are attracted to womens power.

[Tomcat33]

Well, this debunks the conditional reflex theory of Pavlov's, which included pain conditioning for his dog.

 

 

Yes but at least in Pavlov's case the dogs proved to be intuitive, responsive and intelligent.

[Trialbyfire]

Yes but at least in Pavlov's case the dogs proved to be intuitive, responsive and intelligent.

As opposed to nag, nag, nag. I swear this is from a low level of testosterone in some men, such that they continuously need to prove their manhood.

 

To tie it into the topic at hand about being overweight, insecurities in general can be a killer for relationships, from all sorts of different perspectives.

[Tomcat33]

As opposed to nag, nag, nag. I swear this is from a low level of testosterone in some men, such that they continuously need to prove their manhood.

 

To tie it into the topic at hand about being overweight, insecurities in general can be a killer for relationships, from all sorts of different perspectives.

 

 

Yeah and also you can lose fat on your body, how do you change a fat head?

[Trialbyfire]

Yeah and also you can lose fat on your body, how do you change a fat head?

Is it a fat head syndrome or is it a sign of weakness and insecurity?

 

I've never been nagged by a man in my life. Chock one more up to a learning experience.

[redfathom]

I have gained 30 pounds since being married (at 18) over the last eight years. I think I am overweight. I am 147 pounds and I am trying to get down to 130 or 120 (what ever is a size 4, which is what i was when I got married).

 

My H has also just gained 20 pounds, normally he was very skinny 5'8" and 135 pounds. Personally I don't want him to be 135 again, but I do want him to be toned. We openly dicuss it and he said he wants me to have a very slim (almost abs) stomach and I told him I want his biceps to be 13". We both want to be healthier and we both want to look good for each other. Above all we are doing this for ourselves.

 

I swear, once I loose the weight, I will never go back to being 150 (my heaviest) again. I think if you are young, you should be fit and enjoy life being healthy.

 

Good luck to everyone who's trying to loose some weight.

[vonerik012]

LOL.. So when someone calls you ladies out on your really ridiculous theories, and you have nothing to add, you resort to shaming. Yawn...

 

Sorry, I don't agree that men are after women with power. I guess that now makes me insecure lol.

 

Your weight is 10 times more important when attracting a mate, than if you are "powerful" in your company, lol.

[djhall]

There's no doubt power can be an aphrodisiac.

Well that's a relief... I never understood why Ruth Bader Ginsburg gets me so hot!

[fral945]

I don't care if a woman is powerful. Physical attractiveness is way more important.

 

But I have to admit, that new Republican VP candidate is pretty hot, I'd go for her.

[amymarieca]

Yes, I am overweight. I love my body though because everything is proportionate. I have an hour glass figure, only it is thicker.

 

It doesn't really stop me from getting any dates. I have dated lots of attractive men who find me very sexy. I think confidence is something that attracts a person more. If I was someone who was self-conscious about my body, then I could definitely see how that is unattractive.

 

There are men who don't like me for my body of course, because not all men like bigger women. That's fine. I would rather have a man who is also attracted to my personality more than my physical appearance anyhow, so it is no loss to me.

[mortensorchid]

I used to be 45 lbs heavier than I am now. I am here to tell you that like it or not, people treat you differently when you are overweight. Not that people on the street will stare at you or call you a cow, but it's something subtle. They see you as not being capable of keeping things under control, lacking discipline, not caring about how you look, etc. People won't take you seriously in many facets of life. And it does effect you as well.

 

Since I dropped the weight, I noticed that others are much nicer to me, whether they are your close friends to strangers. Oddly enough the guys are friendlier (go figure) and the girls are jealous (also go figure). So yes, it does effect your relationships in a negative way. If you are overweight, get it off somehow.

[Lizzie60]

I totally agree with you Lizzie.

 

I also had a friend who had gastric bypass surgery and she gained all the weight back within a year. She even had therapy because they require it here in the US. She just didn't want to do the work.

 

I used to be obese I was 40 pounds overweight at my heaviest and I had allt he excuses my thyroid, my hormones, Something must be wrong with me I just can't lose the weight.

 

Well it was my portion sizes. They were way big and I ate sweets everyday, muffins, scones, cupcakes. Plus I wasn't active.

 

So I joined weight watchers got my portions under control. i eat sweets only 1 time a week and I exercise everyday. and it was relativily easy to lose the weight.

 

What I see is the main problem is people have a healthy amount of denial. You hear it all the time. But I eat healthy, etc...

 

Now I am in my normal weight range but I would like to lose 10-15 more pounds.

 

As far as effecting my relationship. It did in the way that I feel so much better about myself now and I am in shape I am happier and not as depressed. My bf didn't seem to mind that much but I did.

 

I guess they (obese people) will find a way to fool' the therapis in order to get the operation.. it's like an 'easy, fast' way to get rid of the fat..

 

I see this operation (for people who are NOT ready) the same thing as women who get abortions instead of going on BC pills.. easy way out.. instead of taking care of the real problem..

[Lizzie60]

I used to be 45 lbs heavier than I am now. I am here to tell you that like it or not, people treat you differently when you are overweight. Not that people on the street will stare at you or call you a cow, but it's something subtle. They see you as not being capable of keeping things under control, lacking discipline, not caring about how you look, etc. People won't take you seriously in many facets of life. And it does effect you as well.

 

Since I dropped the weight, I noticed that others are much nicer to me, whether they are your close friends to strangers. Oddly enough the guys are friendlier (go figure) and the girls are jealous (also go figure). So yes, it does effect your relationships in a negative way. If you are overweight, get it off somehow.

 

Of course people treat these people differently... it's been proven many times on television.. they've done some experiments.

 

They are ridiculed.. laughed at.. not taken seriously.. they wait more in lines or they are completely ignored... etc...

 

It does affect all kinds of relationships or interactions with people.

[Angel1111]

He brought it up whenever I dared to put food in my mouth between meals. Whenever sport or thin girls were mentioned. Whenever he felt self-concious about his own body. During shopping (when I would buy a donut for me, never when I bought one for him.).

 

This reminds me of something. After I had my son, I lost all the weight very quickly except for 10 lbs - and I was working hard to get that off because I'm pretty vain, plus I like to look good for my husband. But I will never forget when I was talking to my husband (now ex) about how frustrating it was trying to lose those last 10 lbs and he chimed in and said, "I just want my wife back!" At first I didn't even understand what he meant so he explained that he just wanted me to look exactly as I did before. Now I understand not wanting someone to be overweight.....but 10 lbs??? Seriously. I couldn't believe that it was such a big deal that it made him feel like he had lost his wife. Unreal.

[JohnnyBlaze]

JB, you're usually reasonable instead of one of the consistent nags on LS, so I'm going to respond to you. No one quality ultimately defines attraction unless the guy/woman is so incredibly shallow, he/she's only looking for a set of big breasts/big dick. This has been expressed by myself previously within this exact thread.

 

There are definitely men attracted to power in a woman. I can guarantee it through personal exposure to such. This doesn't mean that the men who are, are beta males. Many are in equal or greater positions of power. If you've ever heard the term "power couples", you'll understand what I mean.

Molte grazie. I try not to bust balls needlessly, here or elsewhere. Sometimes I even succeed.

 

Back to the topic: from the looks of things, you and I were taking it from two separate standpoints. A guy who already has social/economical/corporate power - you're right - is more likely to look for somebody in power as well. At that point, regardless of their actual position (he can be a junior exec and she's the CEO), but they at least understand the life each other needs to lead, something that is pretty important, especially that high up the ladder. Like it or not, having the CFO show up at corporate cocktail parties with the receptionist on his arm is going to turn heads for the wrong reasons.

 

On the other hand, the janitor isn't nearly as likely to go after that lady who just got promoted to Senior VP of Marketing. Guys are more concerned/aware/focused/whatever about staying 'in their league'. They'll move up, but not too far.

 

Does it happen? Sure. Heck, I know a bouncer who's married to a major corporate executive. The point is that the number of guys hooking up that high up is relatively rare compared to the number of women who do. But you're right; power couples certainly are out there.

[Trialbyfire]

Molte grazie. I try not to bust balls needlessly, here or elsewhere. Sometimes I even succeed.

 

Back to the topic: from the looks of things, you and I were taking it from two separate standpoints. A guy who already has social/economical/corporate power - you're right - is more likely to look for somebody in power as well. At that point, regardless of their actual position (he can be a junior exec and she's the CEO), but they at least understand the life each other needs to lead, something that is pretty important, especially that high up the ladder. Like it or not, having the CFO show up at corporate cocktail parties with the receptionist on his arm is going to turn heads for the wrong reasons.

 

On the other hand, the janitor isn't nearly as likely to go after that lady who just got promoted to Senior VP of Marketing. Guys are more concerned/aware/focused/whatever about staying 'in their league'. They'll move up, but not too far.

 

Does it happen? Sure. Heck, I know a bouncer who's married to a major corporate executive. The point is that the number of guys hooking up that high up is relatively rare compared to the number of women who do. But you're right; power couples certainly are out there.

Not all men believe in the concept of leagues but part of the reason is, that a female corporate executive would want a comparable partner, someone who can relate to what they're talking about, over the dinner table. Not too many bouncers can relate to the concepts of top-down management styles or new, strategic business directions/corporate focus. Key performance issues to a bouncer, are how many pounds can I press? Okay, okay, I'm generalizing although you must admit this is true too.

[spookie]

Not all men believe in the concept of leagues but part of the reason is, that a female corporate executive would want a comparable partner, someone who can relate to what they're talking about, over the dinner table. Not too many bouncers can relate to the concepts of top-down management styles or new, strategic business directions/corporate focus. Key performance issues to a bouncer, are how many pounds can I press? Okay, okay, I'm generalizing although you must admit this is true too.

 

I don't think it's the lack of things in common so much as the difference in lifestyles, personally. I'd be uncomfortable dating a bouncer nowdays because the level and type of freedom in his life -and presumably the life I'd share with him - would fcvk with my mental state as I'd be scared of losing the level of control over my neat little life that I need to attain my various ambitions.

[vonerik012]

"Power couple" sounds like some made up media lingo. I know women who married men who later became "powerful", and their wives are just that, housewives.

 

Since it take a man a while to become "powerful", often times he is already married. If he is not married, he might date someone in his peer group, or someone who he spends time around. She might also be "powerful". But still, he is dating her because that is whom he is around. Not because of her "power".

 

I think the original debate, or at least how I was looking at it was, are men turned on by, or seek power, in the same manner women do. I think the answer is definitely not.

 

As an example, an average looking office worker who makes 30k and is 25 might get a few dates. An average looking 50 yr old male CEO will have beautiful women throwing themselves at him. A 50 yr old average looking female ceo will not have men throwing themselves at her. There is no attraction. She is average looking and 50.

[spookie]

"Power couple" sounds like some made up media lingo. I know women who married men who later became "powerful", and their wives are just that, housewives.

 

Since it take a man a while to become "powerful", often times he is already married. If he is not married, he might date someone in his peer group, or someone who he spends time around. She might also be "powerful". But still, he is dating her because that is whom he is around. Not because of her "power".

 

I think the original debate, or at least how I was looking at it was, are men turned on by, or seek power, in the same manner women do. I think the answer is definitely not.

 

As an example, an average looking office worker who makes 30k and is 25 might get a few dates. An average looking 50 yr old male CEO will have beautiful women throwing themselves at him. A 50 yr old average looking female ceo will not have men throwing themselves at her. Their is no attraction. She is average looking and 50.

 

I'd be willing to bet you're wrong about that.

 

What's attractive to those "beautiful women" is not the average-looking 50-year old CEO, but his money... because they are golddiggers. Golddiggers come male, too.

[Trialbyfire]

I don't think it's the lack of things in common so much as the difference in lifestyles, personally. I'd be uncomfortable dating a bouncer nowdays because the level and type of freedom in his life -and presumably the life I'd share with him - would fcvk with my mental state as I'd be scared of losing the level of control over my neat little life that I need to attain my various ambitions.

spook, you and I are very different people. I would never date a bouncer for completely different reasons than you. Discipline and control in most female execs, aren't issues. If anything, the complete opposite holds true and in so many ways, has to hold true.

[vonerik012]

Spookie, women are biologically attracted to powerful males. Men are attracted to beauty, biologically speaking.

 

I actually witnessed this. My ex was an attorney, and 9 women in the corporation she worked at were sleeping with the CEO. I saw their pictures, and I saw a picture of him. They were beautiful, he was 50, overweight, and less than average. The entire time he was also married. I even read about the drama at some site "f'ed upcompany.com.

 

So, all those women were some special breed of humans called "goldiggers" lol. Or just women who became attracted to a powerful man?

 

And once again, a few years ago the number one sexually fantasized male amongst women was Bill Clinton. Old, average looking, liar, serial cheater, but he had power.

[spookie]

Spookie, women are biologically attracted to powerful males. Men are attracted to beauty, biologically speaking.

 

I actually witnessed this. My ex was an attorney, and 9 women in the corporation she worked at were sleeping with the CEO. I saw their pictures, and I saw a picture of him. They were beautiful, he was 50, overweight, and less than average. The entire time he was also married. I even read about the drama at some site "f'ed upcompany.com.

 

So, all those women were some special breed of humans called "goldiggers" lol. Or just women who became attracted to a powerful man?

 

And once again, a few years ago the number one sexually fantasized male amongst women was Bill Clinton. Old, average looking, liar, serial cheater, but he had power.

 

Whatevs vonnie.

[spookie]

If anything, the complete opposite holds true and in so many ways, has to hold true.

 

What do you mean by that?