Green Posted August 31, 2008 Posted August 31, 2008 I'd much rather take things from the oposite sex then offer them.
jerbear Posted August 31, 2008 Posted August 31, 2008 I don't know what I offer... I guess she will have to contact me to find out.!
Walk Posted August 31, 2008 Posted August 31, 2008 I don't know what I offer... I guess she will have to contact me to find out.! Whatever Jerbear. You have a lot to offer. Humor, wit, intelligence, stability, security, appreciation for the opposite gender, knowledge, open mindedness, etc..... You undervalue what you have to offer. It's a lot more then most have to offer.
Author Jersey Shortie Posted August 31, 2008 Author Posted August 31, 2008 Then I don't have much life experience. I've read your posts Fral, you have alot of life experience. Jersey: I actually do own such a pair, haha! I switch between glasses and contacts. I have like three pairs of glasses. Damn! I do too actually...except only two pairs of glasses. I've been trying to figure out how to answer this question, and I can't. Not because I can't identify any traits about myself, but because 'offer' implies that I know what you (as a woman in general) wants, and it seems that no two women want exactly the same thing. It's an interesting perspective JohnnyBlaze but doesn't that type of persepective seem more like you are trying to pander what you think women want more then what you think you offer as an individual man? I think the search about finding someone is finding what they truly like about *you*, not who you can change into to make them happy. I was hoping by asking what men think they offer, would lead me to find out what men think is important about themselves that they offer women. If you pick out certain qualities of yourself and deem it important enough to tell others, it says alot about what you value. Just explain the relevant layers then Couldn't hurt. It might just help us women understand better. If we understand you better we are able to both get and give you more of what we each need.
fral945 Posted August 31, 2008 Posted August 31, 2008 It's an interesting perspective JohnnyBlaze but doesn't that type of persepective seem more like you are trying to pander what you think women want more then what you think you offer as an individual man? I think the search about finding someone is finding what they truly like about *you*, not who you can change into to make them happy. I was hoping by asking what men think they offer, would lead me to find out what men think is important about themselves that they offer women. If you pick out certain qualities of yourself and deem it important enough to tell others, it says alot about what you value. JS, What's wrong with pandering? As an example, If I was to truly be myself, I am naturally introverted and not outgoing. I also prefer to be lazy most of the time, and I don't particularly care how I dress or smell. Is there any woman out there that would not be turned off by those qualities? However, I realize that a large percentage of women that I am interested in like men who are more outgoing, dress well and smell nice. So I decided a few years ago to develop those qualities to appeal to more women. I see them as qualities that I don't particularly look for in a woman but know that she probably looks for in me. You call it pandering, I call it a trade-off. I don't see it as a major deal, since I am pretty indifferent to them. I give her what she likes (but I don't necessarily desire) and she gives me some things I likes (but that she may not necessarily desire). I won't argue that you should compromise major values. But there are lots of little things that make a difference. I honestly hope a woman will "pander" to me somewhat. It doesn't mean you have to be fake.
Author Jersey Shortie Posted August 31, 2008 Author Posted August 31, 2008 So you like lazy, smelly women who don't dress well? More power to you. I think there is a difference in improving certain qualities, and pretending to be someone you aren't.
Vertex Posted August 31, 2008 Posted August 31, 2008 So you like lazy, smelly women who don't dress well? More power to you. I think there is a difference in improving certain qualities, and pretending to be someone you aren't. Quoted for emphasis. Very true
djhall Posted September 1, 2008 Posted September 1, 2008 It is very interesting to compare the responses by women in their thread to the responses by men in this thread. I wonder why it seems so much easier for women to list the good qualities they bring to the table than it is for men? I know personally, I thought about this for a minute and realized I would have a hard time trying to answer this question. I too have a hard time getting past "What would a woman think I offer" to see what "I think I offer"... which even sounds funny to me. I get caught up in wondering if each item is something a woman would consider valuable, something I think a woman should consider valuable, or something about me but which may be unimportant or even a negative to a woman.
carhill Posted September 1, 2008 Posted September 1, 2008 Never found part one, wore out a pair of shoes, so I'm back with my short list: 1. Healthy attitude about spiritual, intellectual and economic freedom for all people. 2. Love of exploration of life and our world. 3. The complexity of simplicity. 4. Disdain for the status quo; love of growth and change and evolution. 5. Desire for connection beyond the superficial, beyond the physical, beyond the sexual. Discovering the essence of existence. 6. I like fast cars too My life experience, correct or not, has been that women like men to be simple, loyal and predictable creatures, things, save loyalty, that my soul rails against, so I've become comfortable with a somewhat solitary existence. I kind of like it
LovehateLove Posted September 1, 2008 Posted September 1, 2008 I offer women a fantastic ass that is worth stroking and slapping repeatedly throughout the day. For a white man, I have a nice peachy ass. My girlfriend likes to do all sorts of naughty shizz to it.
Trialbyfire Posted September 1, 2008 Posted September 1, 2008 It is very interesting to compare the responses by women in their thread to the responses by men in this thread. I wonder why it seems so much easier for women to list the good qualities they bring to the table than it is for men? I know personally, I thought about this for a minute and realized I would have a hard time trying to answer this question. I too have a hard time getting past "What would a woman think I offer" to see what "I think I offer"... which even sounds funny to me. I get caught up in wondering if each item is something a woman would consider valuable, something I think a woman should consider valuable, or something about me but which may be unimportant or even a negative to a woman. The qualities that men or women list, are qualities they personally value. It says a lot about the person and will appeal to the right person. No doubt there are people who will add qualities that don't exist within themselves but that's subjective too. It doesn't take long to figure out if it's pure b/s.
Author Jersey Shortie Posted September 1, 2008 Author Posted September 1, 2008 My life experience, correct or not, has been that women like men to be simple, loyal and predictable creatures, things, save loyalty, that my soul rails against, so I've become comfortable with a somewhat solitary existence. I kind of like it I don't agree with this at all. It's the reason why you have men that complain that women only want bad boys. We don't really want bad boys. But we do want someone exciting, maybe a little unpredictable but is stable, that we can count on and yes, is loyal. But that doesn't mean we want someone boring and simple. I think most women want an adventure, just like most men probably do. But we don't want to be used or only taken for a ride. For the adventure to mean anything, we need to know he is sincere.
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