2nd-Best Posted August 28, 2008 Posted August 28, 2008 Can someone translate the above post (#77) for me? I got lost resolving the conundrum of the poster being a good girl and bad girl ..... I'm a good girl as in I dont get into trouble or do drugs or anything too retarded... BUT on the other hand I'm also a grade A Betch!! That is what I meant, I'm at work right now trying to multi task. You can't expect me to make complete sense right now.. or you can if you want but you'll just be disappointed!!
LionLover Posted August 28, 2008 Posted August 28, 2008 Can someone translate the above post (#77) for me? I got lost resolving the conundrum of the poster being a good girl and bad girl ..... LOL! That was hillarious.
Woggle Posted August 29, 2008 Posted August 29, 2008 I would rather have a woman who likes little weed or a little liquor that is a nice person than a clean living woman who is an intolerable witch. Nothing worse than weed though.
Lovelybird Posted August 29, 2008 Posted August 29, 2008 Never in my life I loved a bad boy, I see through their games
Author singlelife Posted September 1, 2008 Author Posted September 1, 2008 i don't think we mean to do it
Author singlelife Posted September 1, 2008 Author Posted September 1, 2008 i went out with a hot women tonight!! she owns her own business, i had on my tank top and shorts with tats out. we had been emailing and she called me to see how i was doing. i was at the laundry mat with my roomate and shared and found out she lived about 5 min from me. she was in bed with pajamas and i told her to come see me and we can hang out. she told me i was crazy. 15 min later she was there. i introduced her to my roomate and then sat outside and talk to her about 30 min. when my cloths were done we sat it here truck and taked and flirted and did everything except have actual sex. but i know we will ( i had a 3 way on fri and sat so i wasn't hurting or in a rush). she kept saying i was soo sexy and a great kisser and how she was suprised about this. i had her necked. she is really hot and everything is perfect ( hair, nails, truck.) she also kept saying i was completely crazy. i think now that it's the craziness that instinctly attracts women to men like that. i think that if i wasn't what she called crazy she would have even came out and then made out when we talked. i need the women to respond....is this true
LovehateLove Posted September 1, 2008 Posted September 1, 2008 Bad boys? Good Guys? What is this? Agent Cody Banks? Get real, every human being is a complete tool and its just a matter of finding the right tool for you. I'm guessing 90% of people in this topic are 15, in which case their parents should place a protector on their computers until they are 18.
hotcrossbuns Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 Both men and women seem to do stupid things when it comes to relationships. The nice girls go after the bad boys and the nice guys go after the girls who want the bad boys. They're both doing the same stupid thing by chasing someone who is bound to reject them. I also don't believe that so-called nice guys are always as nice as they claim. I have met a lot of "nice guys" who were simply passive aggressive, insecure or whiny. It seems that although they want to find a nice girl, a nice girl really means a hot girl. So the women aren't the only ones sacrificing substance for beauty. It's weird, but I have never been into bad boys. In fact I am generally turned off by them. Any guy who is too cocky or too traditionally handsome tends to turn me off in a big way. I have always had a fondness for nice, nerdy guys. However, I must confess that even though I am older now, I am currently in a relationship with a man who would fit the stereotypical player/bad boy role. I cannot explain this attraction. He is the exact opposite of what I am usually attracted to. If it were anyone else, I would have moved on months ago. But for some reason, this *one* person is able to get under my skin. Anyway, I don't believe things are always so black and white. There are a lot of exceptions out there, a lot of different people with different experiences and perspectives. To say that all women or all men are searching for X, even if there is some general truth to it, is still pretty vacuous.
monkey00 Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 Being a guy after years of dating I would have to agree on the general consensus there is something to the bad boy. My first few years of college was my best years, having only part time jobs. I had a certain attitude and outlook on life, and women were attracted to that. I definitely had a passion and zest for life, which allowed me at times to be a bit cocky, unpredictable and genuinely busy. Those kind of qualities are what women look for in men..initially anyway. A 'good guy' can be confident and self-assured, which is attractive...but add in the equation of predictability and things eventually get stale quick. If a woman ever complains to you that you're mean to her or asks you why you're mean. Then you know you're in tip top shape. Unfortunately for the girls in their early 20's and below, behaving as a good guy and a gentlemen hardly gets you anywhere.. that probably works better for women in their late 20's +.
Author singlelife Posted September 9, 2008 Author Posted September 9, 2008 Being a guy after years of dating I would have to agree on the general consensus there is something to the bad boy. My first few years of college was my best years, having only part time jobs. I had a certain attitude and outlook on life, and women were attracted to that. I definitely had a passion and zest for life, which allowed me at times to be a bit cocky, unpredictable and genuinely busy. Those kind of qualities are what women look for in men..initially anyway. A 'good guy' can be confident and self-assured, which is attractive...but add in the equation of predictability and things eventually get stale quick. If a woman ever complains to you that you're mean to her or asks you why you're mean. Then you know you're in tip top shape. Unfortunately for the girls in their early 20's and below, behaving as a good guy and a gentlemen hardly gets you anywhere.. that probably works better for women in their late 20's +. I have been having crazy fun with multiple women lately and they know i do with others. they say they feel comfortable with me and that their other men are too serious and they don't want to hurt them
paddington bear Posted September 9, 2008 Posted September 9, 2008 Both men and women seem to do stupid things when it comes to relationships. The nice girls go after the bad boys and the nice guys go after the girls who want the bad boys. They're both doing the same stupid thing by chasing someone who is bound to reject them. I also don't believe that so-called nice guys are always as nice as they claim. I have met a lot of "nice guys" who were simply passive aggressive, insecure or whiny. It seems that although they want to find a nice girl, a nice girl really means a hot girl. So the women aren't the only ones sacrificing substance for beauty. Very true - all of it! The nice guys who are really passive aggressive (met them), the guys claiming to want a nice girl, but wanting a hot girl - or getting the nice girl and then treating her like crap because they wanted a hot girl really. You've really made me think...
Author singlelife Posted September 10, 2008 Author Posted September 10, 2008 i think women like guys that don't pressure them and let them be themselves! girls just want to have fun. if you judge a woman she'll never open up.
bayouboi Posted September 10, 2008 Posted September 10, 2008 I don't believe in 'titles' bad boys, good boys.. blablabla.. I think people mix bad boys with confidence... independance.. That's why women are at their feet.. not because he's bad..geezzz...but because he's confident, independant, he has a 'life'... same with women.. 'bitches' are also what people call 'independant, confident, strong' women.. Ahh...but I don't see too many threads about "why do guys always seem to want to be with bitches" because they don't lol
paddington bear Posted September 10, 2008 Posted September 10, 2008 Isn't that covered in the book 'Why Men Love Bitches'??
monkey00 Posted September 15, 2008 Posted September 15, 2008 i think women like guys that don't pressure them and let them be themselves! girls just want to have fun. if you judge a woman she'll never open up. True. That's the thing I'll never understand about women...they act on emotion first and reason logic later. As they say..it's easier asking out girls and going out with them. The hardest part is maintaining a relationship.
FormerNiceGuy Posted September 15, 2008 Posted September 15, 2008 THIS TOPIC HAS BEEN BEATEN TO A PULP. Women like bad boys because he has the balls to approach her. Whereas chumpy "nice guys" are always trying to act "nice" in order to get something in return. If you have the courage to approach women and don't fear rejection and emanate POWER and COURAGE, you'll snuff the Badboys out of the way. Here is the FORMULA TO KICKING THE BADBOY OUT AND GETTING THE GIRL you want: Be confident. Be mature. Be charismatic. Do NOT FEAR rejection. Be a good listener. BE needless....as in....don't be the puppy that follows her everywhere..if she doesn't want you, then be willing to walk away and go for someone who will. Be ambitious. Work on your career and work on becoming better at everything. Be courageous. Work on your appearance...and look your best everyday....that means getting off your seat and exercising. Exercise is the best self-improvement, because it's visual. People can see that you are stronger and bigger and more attractive than before. Take an honest look in the mirror. If you were a stranger and were looking at yourself for the first time. What would your first impression be? Is that the impression you want to give off to people? If it is not, you must portray the man you want to become. Be self-secure. Be sexual....show her that you like her...don't be her "girlfriend"...be a MAN. THE KEY to getting any girl is to work at excelling in every aspect of your life...that you stand out from other men...and in accepting that which you cannot change. Confidence is not about expecting success, or about being successful. It's about not fearing failure. Fake nice guys are losers. They have a low value mindset and so need others for their happiness. They constantly want/need people to like them and this can be draining for the other people involved and eventually pushes them away. Then these "nice guys" wonders why they aren't liked. This is where people get the term 'nice guy' mixed up. "Nice guys" are always looking to take from people. They act nice but always want or need something in return. Real men are nice guys who give to others. Real men give without looking for anything in return. Everybody gives out a vibe and people are attracted or repelled by your vibe. Chumps and "nice guys" constantly need things and want things in return for giving. The solution. Don't hide your interest. Be a man. When you are only a friend to a woman, she only sees you as a friend. When you have no cojones (balls) to approach her, she sees you as a guy with no cojones. When you have no cojones, you are not a man, you are one of her girls.
The Collector Posted September 15, 2008 Posted September 15, 2008 Isn't that covered in the book 'Why Men Love Bitches'?? No, because the two books on this theme aren't about bitchiness at all, but about being self-confident and not being a doormat. But that doesn't make such a catchy title.
D-Jam Posted September 15, 2008 Posted September 15, 2008 I got to page 2 and I had to stop. I hate these bad boy topics because the argument is always the same. It's guys who maybe treat women well, but are failing at finding a girl complain why all the women they meet only seem to have eyes for men who treat them badly. It was stated I think in the first reply what I keep saying to death on this subject. LOOK AT THE WOMEN WHO CHASE THE BAD BOYS. Are these sensible, level-headed women who have a lot ot offer a man in life? Granted most of them are hot looking and maybe fun and wild in bed, but my experiences have shown me these women are very insecure, dishonest, low-class, and flaky. For as much as it seems the women here don't like him, Woggle does make valid points about the women and their lust for bad boys. However, the issue most men never seem to look at is to ask themselves; "Do I really want this woman?" She needs guys to lie to her, abuse her, maybe even physically hurt her or rape her when she's drunk in order to find attraction. Is that someone you really want? Stop thinking you can "save them" or "show them what a real man is". Just see these particular women as the human garbage they are and move on. Find the girl who doesn't tolerate the bad behavior. The one who sees past the lies and knows immediately when someone is trying to play her. Not the one who sees it, but ignores it, hoping they'll "grow to love her and respect her". Men can debate this til the end of time, but they still won't take the idea out that maybe these women aren't the ones they should be messing with. Woggle hit on the point of when they get older and are "burnt out". I've seen a LOT of that. 30something women who hate all men, but never take responsibility for their own bad decisions. Worse are the ones who are knocked up and now desperately trying to find a meal ticket...hoping a nice guy she rejected will take her in. AND...for the women who maybe seem to meet one jerk after the next, and feel like there are no decent men out there, bear in mind that it might also be your selection standards that keep you on this same path. I know a lot of women who seem to be in love with the Italian meathead guido type, but can't seem to realize why they all treat them badly. I tell this to death. If you're out at the bars, clubs, parties, and you see the guy who is insanely hot, bad boy charm, and it seems he can get any woman in the room, then chances are he WILL NOT become wonderful faithful husband in your life. When you women want to ask "When is he going to be finished banging little sluts? When is he going to grow up and want to get married??" Think about things a little. Here is a man who can go out even in his 30s or 40s, pick up hot looking young girls for meangless sex. He's been doing it for a while and still does it now. He's apparently getting all the joys of datin and RLs without having to commit. Why then would he want to give that up? Biggest issue with men in the bad boy debate is they seem to think the women who chase said bad boys are somehow worth dating. Biggest issue with women in the bad boy debate is that many of them think they are so special that they are worth committing to and changing for. Just because a bad boy slept with you doesn't mean he'll commit. Just because one girl got one to commit doesn't mean you and your friends can do the same. People need to stop thinking they need to change their personality and maybe see sometimes they need to just change their selection standards. Always ask yourself: "Will he/she give me what I want in a relationship?"
paddington bear Posted September 15, 2008 Posted September 15, 2008 No, because the two books on this theme aren't about bitchiness at all, but about being self-confident and not being a doormat. But that doesn't make such a catchy title. Looked at your public profile. I'm an artist too. Snap! Yes, you're right - being about self-confidence etc. However, in real life I've seen so many decent, great guys who have these girlfriends who treat them like s**t, who control their lives and boss and bully them. The men cling on in there for years being treated like a doormat. So I would argue that men too like bitches - it's exciting, they don't know what to expect, they keep you on your toes - same with the so-called 'bad boys'. I think it all boils down to our notion of whether someone is worth having. If you get someone too easily no matter who it is, that person is devalued. Bad boys and bitches make themselves unavailable, are unpredictable and therefore seem like some fantastic prize to be won. The person who thinks they've won them feels a greater sense of achievement when they 'get' them. Hence all the dating books out there advising to play it cool, not to be too needy etc. It's all about taking a small percentage of that bad boy behaviour and using it to your advantage to woo members of the opposite sex. We, humans in general, want what we cannot have. And that in a nutshell is a bad boy. Someone we can't have, but stupidly try to win.
marlena Posted September 15, 2008 Posted September 15, 2008 We, humans in general, want what we cannot have. And that in a nutshell is a bad boy. Someone we can't have, but stupidly try to win. Yes, some people love a challenge! That simple!
D-Jam Posted September 16, 2008 Posted September 16, 2008 Yes, some people love a challenge! That simple! And in all honesty, they deserve the pain they bring on themselves. The women who chase the bad boys deserve the betrayals, pain, and other hell they bring on themselves with their unrealistic thinking. The "nice" or "good" men who keep trying to lure the bad boy chasers away deserve the drama they bring into their lives with these women. The bad boys who later complain how they can't find a good girl to take home to mom deserve their own problems. People need to stop thinking that others should change. Learn to see the true worth of a person as opposed to painting them up as the perfect mate in your mind.
Isolde Posted September 16, 2008 Posted September 16, 2008 I liked a total of one bad boy, ever, and he wasn't all that bad, more like, stupid I like GOOD GUYS. Now, good guy doesn't necessarily equal nice guy. In my mind there is a subtle difference. Guys should be nice to the girl they're dating and to the people she's close to. "Nice guy" just has so many connotations of being boring attached to it, that I don't use that term.
Author singlelife Posted September 18, 2008 Author Posted September 18, 2008 i keep saying women like to have fun and not be pressured! i have a date this weekend to go on a trip to have fun! we are gonna meet other women and party. one of my female friends called tonite to go out thursday to kick it no strings attached. women seem to like guys who go by their own beat!
Taramere Posted September 18, 2008 Posted September 18, 2008 women who have a lot ot offer a man in life? Granted most of them are hot looking and maybe fun and wild in bed, but my experiences have shown me these women are very insecure, dishonest, low-class, and flaky... Is that someone you really want? Stop thinking you can "save them" or "show them what a real man is". Just see these particular women as the human garbage they are and move on. So what you're saying is that you have had experiences with hot women who were fun and wild in bed, but essentially you think they're human garbage? And in all honesty, they deserve the pain they bring on themselves. The women who chase the bad boys deserve the betrayals, pain, and other hell they bring on themselves with their unrealistic thinking. Nice. Just to get a better idea of why you think that, checking over your post... She needs guys to lie to her, abuse her, maybe even physically hurt her or rape her when she's drunk in order to find attraction. For reference, how do we all recognise this abhorrent human being who needs to be raped and abused? Does she have a red "S" or "W" on her forehead? Wear short skirts? Maybe she goes out to bars sometimes, has had sex with more than three men or experimented with the odd illegal substance once in a while. Please clarify for us how we can all recognise this deserving victim of rape and abuse, so that we can all load up with rocks and give her the stoning that you believe she needs and deserves. Find the girl who doesn't tolerate the bad behavior. Okay - here's one. I don't tolerate this kind of misogyny that's about three feet away from saying "women who go out wearing short skirts are asking to be raped and knocked around a bit." Pretty freaky that people get 100 different kinds of irate, hurt and distressed about the notion of a guy not wanting to splash out on dinner every time he dates a woman, or the idea that some men might find 22 year old women more physically attractive than 42 year old ones - yet someone comes out with something as offensive as suggesting that a "certain type of woman" needs to be raped and abused, and it passes without comments or raised eyebrows. Lovely.
paddington bear Posted September 18, 2008 Posted September 18, 2008 yet someone comes out with something as offensive as suggesting that a "certain type of woman" needs to be raped and abused, and it passes without comments or raised eyebrows. Lovely. That post passed me right by...that's why.
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