LionLover Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 And single women wonder why...well...they're chronically single. And some single men wonder why people think they are idiots.
Star Gazer Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 And single women wonder why...well...they're chronically single. They don't wonder why. They know. It's because so far they have only met guys who are the type that would contact their friends on the internet "for dating."
Author Bells Posted August 24, 2008 Author Posted August 24, 2008 And some single men wonder why people think they are idiots. Not sure if that's a substantial comeback, but at least I can answer why some of these women are still single. Sounds like a lose-lose situation here. They severley limit themselves. It's either meeting men in bars or online dating.
Author Bells Posted August 24, 2008 Author Posted August 24, 2008 They don't wonder why. They know. It's because so far they have only met guys who are the type that would contact their friends on the internet "for dating." You're just going round in circles. There are 2 types of single people The 1. Good, level headed, stable people that have something going for them and 2. The flakes (single flakes) that they meet.
Star Gazer Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 Limiting oneself to not date creepy guys who would troll one girl's group of friends for a date after being rejected by the original girl is NOT "severely limiting" oneself. Again... this is not and should not be a debate about women limiting themselves. Your soapbox arguments here will do NOTHING to change objects of your intention's opinions.
Star Gazer Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 You're just going round in circles. There are 2 types of single people The 1. Good, level headed, stable people that have something going for them and 2. The flakes (single flakes) that they meet. You obviously haven't dated much. There are far more "types" of single people out there. Just one more example would be the creepy and desperate people who will do anything to get a date.
Author Bells Posted August 24, 2008 Author Posted August 24, 2008 You obviously haven't dated much. There are far more "types" of single people out there. Just one more example would be the creepy and desperate people who will do anything to get a date. If you say so. But see, this rather proves a theory as to why single people..in general are chronically single. They don't know what hey want..they don't call a "date" a "date". This girl even showed interested in me, flirted with me hardcore, the works...she was a tease actually.
LionLover Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 Not sure if that's a substantial comeback, but at least I can answer why some of these women are still single. Sounds like a lose-lose situation here. They severley limit themselves. It's either meeting men in bars or online dating. Whatever. You seem to have all the answers as to why women are single when you in fact are single too. Obviously you like to share in the dating pool & that's your choice. I guess you have no issues with girls you've dated in the past, dating some of your single male friends too. Maybe down the road all of you can partake in a orgy or something.
vonerik012 Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 I understand what you are saying... They are single, you are single, why not ask.. Go ahead and ask them out.. They will not kill you. However, knowing how women are, you have almost a ZERO percent chance with her friends, if one already rejected you. Ironically, you would have a far better chance with her friends if you were in a relationship with the girl, or if you dumped her. Then her friends would see you as valuable.
Author Bells Posted August 24, 2008 Author Posted August 24, 2008 Whatever. You seem to have all the answers as to why women are single when you in fact are single too. Obviously you like to share in the dating pool & that's your choice. I guess you have no issues with girls you've dated in the past, dating some of your single male friends too. Maybe down the road all of you can partake in a orgy or something. The reason I'm single, like I said, I meet alot of flakes, teases, wackjobs, and just women who don't know what the hell they want. That's what's keeping ME single. Partake in an orgy? Now you're just talking silly. Ironically, you would have a far better chance with her friends if you were in a relationship with the girl, or if you dumped her. Then her friends would see you as valuable. Ah! Now there's something different. I like that. The whole "You're only attractive if you're taken" kind of thing. Good call.
Jilly Bean Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 If the women are the type of genuine, non-backstabbing friends, then none of them will entertain you as a dating option out of loyalty to their gal pal. BUT, if they are dysfunctional, conniving chicks, then you can throw yourself right in the middle of the drama storm in which they will use you as a pawn to hurt each other.
Author Bells Posted August 24, 2008 Author Posted August 24, 2008 I know of a woman who did this....she was starting to talk to this guy...but he kept blowing her off......then one day, she hooked up with his friend...they call kinda new each other...he kinda got the hint they were dating, when they kissed in front of him. It kind of "served him right" for blowing her off. THen they dated exclusively.
Jilly Bean Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 And what happened to his friendship with the guy?
JoeNewbie Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 All of these aggressive notes back and forth are useless. Bells, please ask them out and fill us in. Thanks.
Author Bells Posted August 24, 2008 Author Posted August 24, 2008 If the women are the type of genuine, non-backstabbing friends, then none of them will entertain you as a dating option out of loyalty to their gal pal. BUT, if they are dysfunctional, conniving chicks, then you can throw yourself right in the middle of the drama storm in which they will use you as a pawn to hurt each other. Well, we don't know if they are ALL like that.
Author Bells Posted August 24, 2008 Author Posted August 24, 2008 And what happened to his friendship with the guy? Well, as we all know, friends are here for a 1. Reason 2. Season 3. Lifetime Pick one.
Jilly Bean Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 But you can't find other women to date, rather than work the periphery of her life? If I were her, I would think it was pretty obvious you were trying to get back at me.
LionLover Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 But you can't find other women to date, rather than work the periphery of her life? If I were her, I would think it was pretty obvious you were trying to get back at me. I would think the exact same thing too. Here's a simple solution for the OP. Why not just be upfront with her and tell her you are interested in possibly dating one of her friends.
Author Bells Posted August 24, 2008 Author Posted August 24, 2008 I would think the exact same thing too. Here's a simple solution for the OP. Why not just be upfront with her and tell her you are interested in possibly dating one of her friends. That sounds like a good idea...but would it be better to first establish..."so, you interested in me still or no" first If she says "No." then I could ask "Okay, mind if I ask your friends out?"
LionLover Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 That sounds like a good idea...but would it be better to first establish..."so, you interested in me still or no" first Yes. If you do it the other way (what you first posted) it would come across as what everyone pretty much said already, but especially what Jilly Bean pointed out (that you were just doing it as a means to provoke a reaction out of her or a means to "get back at her"). If she says "No." then I could ask "Okay, mind if I ask your friends out?" Exactly. And if she has an issue with it, then she will tell you. I would have an issue with it, but that's just me.
Balthazar Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 If you really are attracted to one of her friends, go ahead and ask her out. You have little to lose apart from the girl's opinion of you. If this is not that important, go ahead. However, I think your chances of success are not the best and you can bet your "friend" will not be very helpful. Proceed with caution.
AllInOne Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 Bells, Don't waste your time asking the friends out. Don't lose track of the fact that people often make decisions based on emotion and these friends will have negative emotions associated with you becuase of what the original girl has said about you and her choice not to date you. This is a little more complicated then just them being single and looking and you being single and looking. Go after some other girls on the dating site.
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