HiItsMe Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 Though the LOL is a nervous "LOL". Now that some men have to worry about dating some woman who seem to place too much concern one what kind of job he has for a living. Well, it might come to lowering your standards. Take Joe Worker for instance, worked at a nice 50 K a year I.T. job for a few years....there was a company wide layoff, and he's been out of work for 6 months, though he is trying to find work....it's just not happening, sending out amplitudes of applications, with no call backs or even callbacks for interviews. Joe Worker sees that his bank funds are getting lower, and sees that a new Target Store is opening up down the block from him, he might as well get a min. wage job until he can move himself back into his career, right? He arrives at the job site, over, 1,000 applicants waiting in line, but only 200 job openings for the store are available. Pretty grim eh? Do you think the recession is going to limit one's options even further. Of course, one should focus on finding a job first before dating. But hey, pat yourself on the back, because you just got that brand spanking new Night Stocker's vest at the Local Wal-Mart, and you start tomorrow. You go out with your friend's to celebrate, you meet a gal, just to make conversation, she asks what you do for a living...you tell her that your a night stocker at a Wal-mart....but that you don't don't plan on doing it the rest of your life....she goes, "Really? How old are you?" You say, "35"....she goes....ah...that's nice......see ya! My question is.....will the recession (if there is one...if not...call it "the bad economy) adjust our dating criteria? There are people who are in their 40's and 50's forclosing on their houses, because they can't afford the mortgage. EVEN retail stores are laying off people left and right. Bennigans is the most recent...and from what I hear, it's only going to get worse. That part about Target opening up...trues story, apparently there's someone who went to apply for a part-time job at Target, and there were about a THOUSAND waiting in line for the openings. Now former-professionals are competing with HS Kids.
carhill Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 Yep, time to re-visit us mega pathetic blue collar guys
Author HiItsMe Posted August 16, 2008 Author Posted August 16, 2008 Yep, time to re-visit us mega pathetic blue collar guys Or "White Collared" turned "Blue Collared" But, after work, it's nice to be the only 40 year old hangin' out with the 22 year old guys at the bar after a hard days work at the Wal-Mart.....plus, you can meet alot of young babes/female co-workers that way. (j/k)
Kamille Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 I would like to point out that, on the job front, women are as affected by the recession as men are. Two of my (girl)friends have losts their jobs in the last year and also face the challenge of telling men she is unemployed. The feeling of humiliation they face when they tell men they're looking for a job seems to be just as daunting as the one you describe. High income earners of both gender tend to seek out other high income earners, perhaps on the assumption that they therefore share similar work/lifestyle/financial values.
Legend Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 Guess I don't have anything to worry about, being hot and worth a ton of $.
Rooster_DAR Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 For me the whole "how much money you make" thing does not apply. I tend to categorize people with that mindset as lame. My GF is going to school and works retail on the weekends for peanuts, I"m an IT directory that make decent money and it does not bother me. Cheers!
stoopid_guy Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 Some folks don't wanna hear this, but IT is not in a recession. It's simply adjusted. Expect it to last this way. It's simply stabilized. I'd bet auto mechanics went through the same thing when cars became every-day technology. For those who jumped in IT because it was "hot" a few years ago, they need to jump to what's "hot" in their area now. Yup, it is going to hit your social lives. But I would recommend a young person go for their CDL before I'd recommend an MCSE.
Author HiItsMe Posted August 16, 2008 Author Posted August 16, 2008 Some folks don't wanna hear this, but IT is not in a recession. It's simply adjusted. Expect it to last this way. It's simply stabilized. I'd bet auto mechanics went through the same thing when cars became every-day technology. For those who jumped in IT because it was "hot" a few years ago, they need to jump to what's "hot" in their area now. Yup, it is going to hit your social lives. But I would recommend a young person go for their CDL before I'd recommend an MCSE. What's adjusted?
CommitmentPhobe Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 Yeah the good times are gone, besides which what's going to be weeded out are people in debt. You know that flashy car that attracted all the women? The one you bought with a loan? You know the huge mortgage you have that takes a chunk out of your salary just so you could say you own a house? You know all the credit cards that you took out so you could get the clothes and the meals? Well guess what, you aren't going to be able to pay all that so easily. Keeping up an appearance is going to cost people big time. So much for female "requirements" Me, I've got a 2 year pre-funded contract no debt and 2 years salary in the bank. I look forward to snapping a house up on the cheap with no mortgage
Trialbyfire Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 This is why people should watch for those who are only flash, no substance, regardless of recession. Take your time getting to know these people before jumping in with both feet, heart and body. Taking on personal debt from someone else can easily kill your financial situation.
Alma Mobley Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 It's true ... hard to live these days, even if you have a college degree. I had to stay at my company for a year in order to get health insurance, and I was plenty sick during that time. Not much fun to haul your sick self out of bed down to the public clinic, wait for six hours, just to get a prescription for antibiotics. And I'm paying off all these student loans as well. And rent is sky-high! Oh wait... I'm a woman. Sorry, this doesn't apply to me. I guess I feel sorry for "Joe Worker" as I can empathize as "Jane Worker." In the end, it's all the same.
stoopid_guy Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 What's adjusted? IT incomes and people. They went way high at one point, now they've come back to where they should be. There are fewer jobs and paying less OR are only being held by the high-end geeks. The high-end geeks are still making decent incomes, but not what they were a few years ago. It's become like highly skilled labor, like mechanics, carpenters, HVAC, etc. The days of the "high-tech prima donna" are pretty much over.
melodymatters Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 well, as a Florida Realtor, I can tell you nearly HALF of the industries here that were booming, are OV-er : appraisers, home inspectors, title agents, framers, carpenters, plumbers, ANYONE who had anything to do with ""houses" is f*cked. AND, as someone who owned a trucking company once, the CDL is also worth shyte : The owner operaters are the ones who make the $$ and with fuel prices sky high, they are bringing home peanuts and were ready to strike a few months ago.
Author HiItsMe Posted August 16, 2008 Author Posted August 16, 2008 This is why people should watch for those who are only flash, no substance, regardless of recession. Take your time getting to know these people before jumping in with both feet, heart and body. Taking on personal debt from someone else can easily kill your financial situation. Trial...sometimes I see people with fancy sports cars and watches....but chances are they don't own them....they are in debt to their eyeballs.
vonerik012 Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 Well the difference is men will date you if you have debt, or no job, or a "non status" career. Men won't leave you if you lose your job. Men don't care if you drive a Cavalier or a Mercedes. If you rent a shoe box apartment or own a high rise condo. Your desirability is not based on what you can do for us financially. And please, do not even debate this...
CommitmentPhobe Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 Now heres a couple with the right idea http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/7565534.stm
jerbear Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 If they were to lower their standards, you should to... :laugh:
jerbear Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 For those who jumped in IT because it was "hot" a few years ago, they need to jump to what's "hot" in their area now. Yup, it is going to hit your social lives. But I would recommend a young person go for their CDL before I'd recommend an MCSE. It is also hot in India... Those certs and licenses get you through the door. What you get is that you survived the 1st cut along with the other 1,000 1st cut survivors.
vonerik012 Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 If they were to lower their standards, you should to... :laugh: Why? is the recession making you fat, ugly, and mean?
FadedSign Posted August 17, 2008 Posted August 17, 2008 Well the difference is men will date you if you have debt, or no job, or a "non status" career. Men won't leave you if you lose your job. Men don't care if you drive a Cavalier or a Mercedes. If you rent a shoe box apartment or own a high rise condo. Your desirability is not based on what you can do for us financially. And please, do not even debate this... Very true.
Kamille Posted August 17, 2008 Posted August 17, 2008 Well the difference is men will date you if you have debt, or no job, or a "non status" career. Men won't leave you if you lose your job. Men don't care if you drive a Cavalier or a Mercedes. If you rent a shoe box apartment or own a high rise condo. Your desirability is not based on what you can do for us financially. And please, do not even debate this... this topic again? yawn. I don't know where you live, I'm going to assume Beverley Hills or something because, like I've posted on countless threads with same line of thought: I don't have a single friend who thinks like this. I have friends who have supported their boyfriends through tough times, I've helped my ex through financial difficulties etc etc. Oh no wait, sorry, you told us not to debate this. You're so right Vonerik, you've convinced me women must be shallow superficial vapid humans. It's a ploy against men, who are the biggest victims of comteporary economic times. Just ignore all the single moms.
vonerik012 Posted August 17, 2008 Posted August 17, 2008 lol.. Trust me.. If a man is single and driving a Mercedes, there are about 10 times more women to choose from. If the same man is single and driving a Cavalier, he has fewer options. this was just on AM radio few days ago.. Women were calling in and talking about vehicle requirements for a potential date. The vast majority had restrictions on whom they would date based on what they drive.
Kamille Posted August 17, 2008 Posted August 17, 2008 lol.. Trust me.. If a man is single and driving a Mercedes, there are about 10 times more women to choose from. If the same man is single and driving a Cavalier, he has fewer options. this was just on AM radio few days ago.. Women were calling in and talking about vehicle requirements for a potential date. The vast majority had requirements on whom they would date based on what they drive. Again, it makes me wonder where you live. I'm not saying there are not superficial people out there. It's just that in my life I'm surrounded by people, guys or girls, who consistently show they have a lot of integrity and wouldn't disqualify someone based on the car they drive. I do live however in a region that's been through some pretty tough economic times for a long long time (Eastern Canada) so that might play into the fact that people here seem a lot less shallow then what you describe.
vonerik012 Posted August 17, 2008 Posted August 17, 2008 Sure, no doubt eastern Canada is different from people who live in a big city in the USA..
stoopid_guy Posted August 17, 2008 Posted August 17, 2008 Well the difference is men will date you if you have debt, or no job, or a "non status" career. Men won't leave you if you lose your job. Men don't care if you drive a Cavalier or a Mercedes. If you rent a shoe box apartment or own a high rise condo. Your desirability is not based on what you can do for us financially. And please, do not even debate this... Depending on the guy , "status" might matter a lot. I might find the girl behind the fast-food register cute or sexy physically, but I know we're very unlikely to have anything in common, so I'm not going to "come on" to her. I'll be friendly, but nothing more. True, it's not because of her income (or lack of) but I'm going to assume that she's either very young, not too bright, lacks self-esteem, or some combination. Also, the ladies who wouldn't be interested in me because of what I drive? I'm glad. If they're that shallow, I don't want anything to do with them either.
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