Jilly Bean Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 And here I was bitching about no drama lately... But, this afternoon, I went to a new hairdresser. HORRIBLE! She had to redo my hair three times - clueless and a crappy job. At the end, she started going off at me. Like GOING OFF IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SALON. So, I walked out. She followed me all over the parking lot, and was threatening to call the police. I told her to go ahead, and I left (there was more to this drama, but that's not the point here - lol). I got home, and called bi-cop to ask his advice, as honestly, I don't do well with the whole cop thing. He told me that it's a civil matter, and not to worry. 15 minutes later, he and I are talking, and the doorbell rings. It's the cops. He told me to put him on speaker and keep him on the phone. He got on the phone with them. It gets resolved, they leave, end of story on that BS drama. Though I was SO thankful he didn't hang up, and was there for me during my meltdown with the law. He then started telling me that I now owed him as they were going to arrest me, and he talked them out of it. (not true, but he was being very flirty and trying to seize an opportunity). He went on to say that he needed to punish me for my crimes, etc., that he needed to come over and teach me good citizenship - you get the idea. I told him I wasn't flattered that he wanted to screw me. I told him that didn't single him out - it just made him like most guys I meet. That I was looking for more. He said let's get together when I get back in town next week. I said why? If it's just for booty, forget it. And I asked him flat out if he still saw me as "undateable". I told him that it's surprising how he crops up every few months, and that I don't think he sees what I see. He said I was very attractive, blah blah blah, and that we had great chemistry, but that I am not what he pictured himself ending up with (ouch! talk about harsh). I said that was fine, and that I preferred to know. He said he would always love to "be with me" (sexually), but doesn't contact me for that, as he knows it would hurt my feelings. He SO hates conversations like this, BTW. So, he went from putting it out there to wanting to screw me tonight for him helping out with the cops, to let's get together next week, to me pressing him on actual intentions, and him saying I'm not dateable. He said it had nothing to do with how we met, but he wasn't sure if I had any issue with how we met (what?), but that he trusts me with his deepest secret, and that he loves me for being so cool about it. And then I lied to him and told him I got back together with a guy I dated last year. YES, I LIED. I figured since he already told me he didn't want to date me, and that was pretty obvious by his not calling me the past few weeks, what the hey. He only said, "oh, really?" like he was really surprised that I had a guy. I said that it's not like I have been sitting home on SAT nights waiting for his call (no, I've just been on LS - lol), and he said, "Oh, I know you have all kinds of guys and get all kinds of attention from men." I SO need a cocktail. Maybe three.
vonerik012 Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 And here I was bitching about no drama lately... But, this afternoon, I went to a new hairdresser. HORRIBLE! She had to redo my hair three times - clueless and a crappy job. At the end, she started going off at me. Like GOING OFF IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SALON. So, I walked out. She followed me all over the parking lot, and was threatening to call the police. I told her to go ahead, and I left (there was more to this drama, but that's not the point here - lol). I got home, and called bi-cop to ask his advice, as honestly, I don't do well with the whole cop thing. He told me that it's a civil matter, and not to worry. 15 minutes later, he and I are talking, and the doorbell rings. It's the cops. He told me to put him on speaker and keep him on the phone. He got on the phone with them. It gets resolved, they leave, end of story on that BS drama. Though I was SO thankful he didn't hang up, and was there for me during my meltdown with the law. He then started telling me that I now owed him as they were going to arrest me, and he talked them out of it. (not true, but he was being very flirty and trying to seize an opportunity). He went on to say that he needed to punish me for my crimes, etc., that he needed to come over and teach me good citizenship - you get the idea. I told him I wasn't flattered that he wanted to screw me. I told him that didn't single him out - it just made him like most guys I meet. That I was looking for more. He said let's get together when I get back in town next week. I said why? If it's just for booty, forget it. And I asked him flat out if he still saw me as "undateable". I told him that it's surprising how he crops up every few months, and that I don't think he sees what I see. He said I was very attractive, blah blah blah, and that we had great chemistry, but that I am not what he pictured himself ending up with (ouch! talk about harsh). I said that was fine, and that I preferred to know. He said he would always love to "be with me" (sexually), but doesn't contact me for that, as he knows it would hurt my feelings. He SO hates conversations like this, BTW. So, he went from putting it out there to wanting to screw me tonight for him helping out with the cops, to let's get together next week, to me pressing him on actual intentions, and him saying I'm not dateable. He said it had nothing to do with how we met, but he wasn't sure if I had any issue with how we met (what?), but that he trusts me with his deepest secret, and that he loves me for being so cool about it. And then I lied to him and told him I got back together with a guy I dated last year. YES, I LIED. I figured since he already told me he didn't want to date me, and that was pretty obvious by his not calling me the past few weeks, what the hey. He only said, "oh, really?" like he was really surprised that I had a guy. I said that it's not like I have been sitting home on SAT nights waiting for his call (no, I've just been on LS - lol), and he said, "Oh, I know you have all kinds of guys and get all kinds of attention from men." I SO need a cocktail. Maybe three. Well no kidding he's gay...
xpaperxcutx Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 Jilly you really need to stop being friends with guys like this. From bi- cop's attitude he doesn't treat you as relationship material but as a ONS that he can call whenever he needs someone to screw with (literally). Definitely not worth the effort. Don't let him get to you.
Ronni_W Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 that I am not what he pictured himself ending up with... I SO need a cocktail. Maybe three. Cheers! (I'm still on my first...wait up while I catch up .) Ouch! is right...but does he even know what he means by saying/thinking that?
trubella Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 are you surprised thats what he wanted. think for some guys when u start out sexual its hard to see you as anything more. maybe the sex was great and he felt like taking advantage of the situation since u called him.
Walk Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 You said this first: I told him I wasn't flattered that he wanted to screw me. I told him that didn't single him out - it just made him like most guys I meet. That I was looking for more. And then after that comment he said you were: very attractive, blah blah blah, and that we had great chemistry, but that I am not what he pictured himself ending up with Seems more like tit for tat. You hurt him, he hurts you. Why do you care that he didn't care when you lied to him about dating someone else?
Author Jilly Bean Posted August 16, 2008 Author Posted August 16, 2008 Jilly you really need to stop being friends with guys like this. From bi- cop's attitude he doesn't treat you as relationship material but as a ONS that he can call whenever he needs someone to screw with (literally). Definitely not worth the effort. Don't let him get to you. Well, yes and no, X. He didn't call me - I called him because of the cop issue. And he has never called me from a ONS - but that's not to say he wouldn't have been amenable, if I said yes... But agreed - he has never seen me as relationship material. I guess I should really follow suit, huh?
Author Jilly Bean Posted August 16, 2008 Author Posted August 16, 2008 Seems more like tit for tat. You hurt him, he hurts you. Why do you care that he didn't care when you lied to him about dating someone else? Well, I only said that didn't single him out, because he had already said he only saw me as booty. It wasn't a comment I made to hurt him - it was just honest. But yes - I did lie about dating someone else. I care because I have always had crazy feelings for him.
vonerik012 Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 Well, yes and no, X. He didn't call me - I called him because of the cop issue. And he has never called me from a ONS - but that's not to say he wouldn't have been amenable, if I said yes... But agreed - he has never seen me as relationship material. I guess I should really follow suit, huh? Yes, as a rule you should refrain from dating gay men. But you should disclose these adventures to all future partners for their safety.
Author Jilly Bean Posted August 16, 2008 Author Posted August 16, 2008 Ouch! is right...but does he even know what he means by saying/thinking that? I think he knows he's saying, "I find you hot, I loved having sex with you, but you're not the type of women I see myself dating or having a relationship with."
Author Jilly Bean Posted August 16, 2008 Author Posted August 16, 2008 are you surprised thats what he wanted. think for some guys when u start out sexual its hard to see you as anything more. maybe the sex was great and he felt like taking advantage of the situation since u called him. Totally true, Tru! I have had some ONS that have morphed into relationships, but those are more the exception than the rule, for sure. Yes, I called him because I knew the cops were going to be coming to my house, and I panicked and needed his advice. I am VERY grateful he was there for me in that regard, as I am not so sure the cops would have been as expeditious as they were, if it had not been for him talking to them. I think he would have loved it if I said come over later, but he knows I want more, and as he said, that is why he has never pursued me. Still sucks...
xpaperxcutx Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 I think he knows he's saying, "I find you hot, I loved having sex with you, but you're not the type of women I see myself dating or having a relationship with." He's bi and he has no considerations for your feelings. Was he a test tube baby?
Author Jilly Bean Posted August 16, 2008 Author Posted August 16, 2008 He's bi and he has no considerations for your feelings. Was he a test tube baby? Ouch. lol. But he does have some consideration, in that he knows I want more, and therefore has not pursued me romantically. As far as asking for the payback today, I think he was testing the waters. Since we last saw each other a year and a half ago, I was hoping he would want to date me now, and he was hoping I would be cool with sex only. lol Eh...
Walk Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 Well, I only said that didn't single him out, because he had already said he only saw me as booty. It wasn't a comment I made to hurt him - it was just honest. But yes - I did lie about dating someone else. I care because I have always had crazy feelings for him. Wait.. I'm confused. You slept with him before, and it was back then that he told you he only saw you as a booty call? Why do you have "crazy" feelings for him? What makes him desirable to you? Are you sure this isn't one of those "I can't have it, I want it" trick emotions sneaking up on you?
Author Jilly Bean Posted August 16, 2008 Author Posted August 16, 2008 Wait.. I'm confused. You slept with him before, and it was back then that he told you he only saw you as a booty call? Why do you have "crazy" feelings for him? What makes him desirable to you? Are you sure this isn't one of those "I can't have it, I want it" trick emotions sneaking up on you? We dated last year briefly AFTER having sex, yes. Besides his bi-ness,which I accept, we have everything in common - I posted on this about a month ago. I was always madly attracted to him, Walk. It's been a year and a half, and he always crops up every few months. Just enough to stay in the background, but he will never come to the forefront. Just sucks. It comes down to him not liking that I know his secret.
vonerik012 Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 We dated last year briefly AFTER having sex, yes. Besides his bi-ness,which I accept, we have everything in common - I posted on this about a month ago. I was always madly attracted to him, Walk. It's been a year and a half, and he always crops up every few months. Just enough to stay in the background, but he will never come to the forefront. Just sucks. It comes down to him not liking that I know his secret. So either he wants to be with a man, or a woman he can lead a double life with?
Jake Barnes Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 Jilly I think he thinks youre undateable because you watched him f*ck another man in front of your own eyes and you were cool with it. And then you proceeded to be f*cked by the same penis that was in anothers man's body Maybe he doesnt see you as the kind of girl to bring home to mother, no offense
johan Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 Jilly I think he thinks youre undateable because you watched him f*ck another man in front of your own eyes and you were cool with it. And then you proceeded to be f*cked by the same penis that was in anothers man's body Maybe he doesnt see you as the kind of girl to bring home to mother, no offense I don't think that dog will hunt, Mr. Barnes. Unless he showed her the pictures, his mom didn't see any of that. And I'm sure he knows that people get a great impression of Jilly and don't get a sense of what she's capable of behind closed doors.
Jake Barnes Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 I don't think that dog will hunt, Mr. Barnes. Unless he showed her the pictures, his mom didn't see any of that. And I'm sure he knows that people get a great impression of Jilly and don't get a sense of what she's capable of behind closed doors.Oh come on J, most guys arent interested in having real relationships with promiscuous women and you know it If thats offensive so be it. If people can criticize a woman putting on some weight after a baby, then why shouldnt morally depraved behavior be on the table?
johan Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 Oh come on J, most guys arent interested in having real relationships with promiscuous women and you know it If thats offensive so be it. If people can criticize a woman putting on some weight after a baby, then why shouldnt morally depraved behavior be on the table? I don't know Mr. B. The cop needn't look much farther than the nearest mirror to find someone promiscuous and morally depraved. I doubt he would be all that concerned about Jilly's wild side, as long as she could keep it in the bedroom.
Walk Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 Jilly I think he thinks youre undateable because you watched him f*ck another man in front of your own eyes and you were cool with it. And then you proceeded to be f*cked by the same penis that was in anothers man's body For JillyBean, had he mentioned not seeing you as gf material prior to this incident? It might not have made a lick of difference either way. (playing devils advocate)
vonerik012 Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 Even if we overlook the fact that the man is gay, and likes men... If he calls you once in a while every few months for sex, he is NOT into you. He even regards you so lowly to even ask for sex, THEN TELL YOU you are not his ideal. Jilly, remember what you said on my thread ? "Pump and dump?" Well that is text book "pump and dump" as you so wonderfully put it..
Virgo1982 Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 he said, "Oh, I know you have all kinds of guys and get all kinds of attention from men." I think this statement, plus the fact that you two had a ONS=his resistance.
Virgo1982 Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 Jilly I think he thinks youre undateable because you watched him f*ck another man in front of your own eyes and you were cool with it. And then you proceeded to be f*cked by the same penis that was in anothers man's body Maybe he doesnt see you as the kind of girl to bring home to mother, no offense I'm sorry, but he shouldn't go home to his mother either. At least Jilly's honest. If he told every woman he met about his "little" secret, how many of them would want to meet his mother? He should be thanking his lucky stars he found Jilly. Anyway, we'll see his devastated future ex posting a thread about him years from now.
Author Jilly Bean Posted August 16, 2008 Author Posted August 16, 2008 I don't know Mr. B. The cop needn't look much farther than the nearest mirror to find someone promiscuous and morally depraved. I doubt he would be all that concerned about Jilly's wild side, as long as she could keep it in the bedroom. Thanks for the support, J. Appreciate it. Yeah, I think he's not that small-minded to judge me, and not judge himself in the process for how we met. Morally depraved? Fabulous! VIRGO - what do you mean about that? He did make the comment as if felt I had guys asking me out and all over me constantly. WALK - we dated last year for a bit after we met. I was never his GF, though. JAKE - I didn't see him screw another man. Bi-cop happens to be a bottom. lmao. So, to me, his c*ck was untainted. lol
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