Why are pretty women....

[brothermartin]

I don’t think TBF should be vilified for her comments. She is just being honest, there is nothing misandrist about her comments. If she chooses to comply to her preferences and believes only 1% of the male population fit her preference, then all the best to her. Men aren’t vilified when they refuse to date overweight women, so I don’t see why a woman should be scorned for only being attracted to 1% of the male population.

Actually, yeah, they are. By the "overweight" women they refuse to date.

[almost famous]

No one, including overweight women, are telling men to date women they aren't attracted to.

For me, it really is the one in a thousand type thing. I either feel the attraction or I don't, and then you have to find the man that feels the same attraction for you. So it almost is like a crapshoot. Even though a woman may be pretty, they are not every man's type, just because a man is attractive - he isn't every woman's type either.

[vonerik012]

Right now, I'm relationship resistant aka situationally commitment phobic. I'm working on some internal issues due to a couple of poor judgement calls on my part, one right after another. These are two reasons why my list has grown astronomically, particularly the non-negotiable portion. Next time, there won't be any settling.

 

Until I work through these issues with time, any relationship would be a disaster and completely unfair to either myself for a potential partner.

 

I will also openly admit that I love my freedom.

 

So, overall, I am where I put myself and technically want to be.

 

Well thank you TBF. That is a much more sincere response and a better way of looking at the opposite sex.

 

and Love hate ... Saying i do not want to date an obese woman, is not the same as saying "99% of women do not meet my requirements"

[Angel1111]

Methinks you're projecting your personal insecurities and baggage into this thread. I couldn't be bothered to explain myself to a misogynist. Do enjoy playing with yourself.

 

Trial, don't argue with this person - he has a history of baiting women and drawing them into arguments. Just ignore him.

[smileysmile]

super attractive woman may make men think twice to even approach them.

 

Thoughts men might have:

 

Out of my league.

Too hard too keep, always getting hit on.

Surely she already has a boyfriend, or two.. and hundreds after her.

Generally intimidated

 

Women also think this. My STBXW is very attractive and sexy but she would feel the same above about a 'very' attractive man Zzzzz

She hasn't said it but you can tell these things. She picked me because I was 'safer'. Not that I am not attractive because my ex wouldn't have gone with me if she wasn't attracted to me. I know she likes muscular men, tall, confident with a large pen*s being a bonus! She might have had sex with these guys but long term, marriage material? No way! Just because of the way they look at what is said above.

 

Many women think men like this are up themselves, players and would wander and be hit on and are more likely to have affairs. When a woman wants to settle down they normally go for the 'safer' man.

[Trialbyfire]

Trial, don't argue with this person - he has a history of baiting women and drawing them into arguments. Just ignore him.

Yes, I do know that. Misogynists have the ideal trap for women. If women display what they consider feminine qualities, it's mocked as inferior and emotional. If women display what they perceive as logical/rational qualities, it's perceived as non-feminine. The net result is that regardless of what qualities displayed, women are perceived to be of lower stature within a misogynists social construct. In doing so, they utilize this to pump up low self-esteem and confidence in themselves as men.

[HiItsMe]

Yes, I do know that. Misogynists have the ideal trap for women. If women display what they consider feminine qualities, it's mocked as inferior and emotional. If women display what they perceive as logical/rational qualities, it's perceived as non-feminine. The net result is that regardless of what qualities displayed, women are perceived to be of lower stature within a misogynists social construct. In doing so, they utilize this to pump up low self-esteem and confidence in themselves as men.

 

Yes, if one is always EXPECTING defeat or something negative about someone, they will find it.

[D-Jam]

Why are pretty women treated so badly in the dating world? That has been my experience along with all of my other pretty and good looking friends. The age old debate of a beautiful woman, succesful in their careers, educated.....Yet we are the ones that are single. Now granted, none of those things make for a succesful relationship or a succesful partner. But men so often want a woman who is able to bring their share to the plate. BEAUTY, BRAINS....AND SINGLE

It's problems on both genders.

 

First off, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. Seen plenty of women claim they are "pretty", but in reality they are average. They are the ones who stand there at a bar looking at the girl across the room in her skinny model body and revealing outfit, making comments on how she's probably a skank because the guys are checking her out...yet these very women are more 5's or 6's, but believe they're a 10 because they got education and career.

 

I've said this to men as well as to women, having a Masters and a high-powered career doesn't mean anything if you're fronting a bad sense of fashion style, loads of cellulite, and bad hair. We all say to death "Don't judge a book by it's cover", but let's face it...the cover is the starter between being approached/checked out, and being alone all night. Many on both genders can complain how unfair that is or even how people are shallow, but that's life.

 

NOW...if we're talking women who are 8's, 9's, and 10's being treated badly, they have to bear in mind that because they are so high on the looks scale, many many more men will be pursuing, often times with different agendas. Some might see them as GF potential, others just want to claim her and nail her...like a trophy...but they have no intentions of commitment or anything.

 

We see hot women all over getting into RL after RL with every horrible male they can find, while passing up any decent guys who make their attempts. There is a lot of logic to this...and I'll try not to go too deep into paragraphs:

 

• Some of the hot women believe they only deserve the best males in the world, mostly based on looks and money. They forget to also prioritize the important things like "good personality" and "treats women right"
  
• Many hot women suffer from low self-esteem, mostly brought on by bad fathers, broken families, etc. The reason why it seems every hot woman is also a headcase is because they work so hard to look good out of a need to be wanted and valued. They see things as that if guys don't want them, then they're ugly and worthless. They also tend to be "pleasers" in life, hence why they never have backbone towards terrible boyfriends.
  
• Many of these same hot women with the low self-esteems also never had good male role models in their lives. So when you see them passing up decent men for bad men, it's mostly out of a need for a very masculine mate. They see anyone who is decent to them as feminine, thus why guys can treat them badly and get them.
  
• Some hot women overvalue themselves. They set their standards for a man so high that 99% of the male population will never be right for her. When she does take on a BF, it's either because she gets lonely and desperate and thinks this will be a temporary thing...or some guy puts a good enough lie on her that she think she's found her 1%.
  
• Some hot women want a celebrity lifestyle, so they pursue trust fund babies and yuppies with big paychecks who party hard. They are willing to be his "ornament" if he's picking up the checks and taking her shopping
  
• Many hot GUYS see the amount of attention they get from women, and thus decide they don't have to be gentlemen because they can easily "replace" any girl who complains. Plus some play a silly conundrum where they treat a girl badly, lose respect for her because she puts up with it, then later complain how they can't find a decent girl.
  

I've always approached hot women when I met them. I talk to them, get to know them, etc. The hot women with brains and career (and are not using career as a means to avoid dating) and are not looking for a wealthy alpha male usually are never single. The rest of the "hot woman" population are the low self-esteem shallow headcases.

 

Am I only pursuing 8's, 9's, and 10's? No. So don't stand here thinking I'm only going after one type of girl.

 

There are good men out there, but they won't come packaged as David Beckham or Brad Pitt. They will be making decent money, but not upper income money. However, they will know how to treat a lady.

 

There are good women out there, but they won't come packaged as Adriana Lima or Angelina Jolie. Men who want the decent women need to find COMPATIBILITY, not the hottest thing they can show off.

 

Same goes for women.

[45Reverse]

Perhaps you overlooked the first paragraph of my post or it wasn't clear enough. We've each put ourselves where we are. If it's a place that people aren't happy with, then fix it.

 

I'm happy where I am so it's where I choose to remain. This doesn't smack of elitism. It smacks of acceptance of personal responsibility and personal control.

 

I see your new avatar is a train wreck...interesting.

[Trialbyfire]

I see your new avatar is a train wreck...interesting.

It's deliberately so for personal reasons which have nothing to do with this thread. Do you have anything worthwhile to add to this thread?

[45Reverse]

It's deliberately so for personal reasons which have nothing to do with this thread. Do you have anything worthwhile to add to this thread?

 

Just did. You may not agree but everyone will draw their own conclusions.

[Trialbyfire]

Just did. You may not agree but everyone will draw their own conclusions.

Ick...another masterbaiter...

[Virgo1982]

 

There are good men out there, but they won't come packaged as David Beckham or Brad Pitt. They will be making decent money, but not upper income money. However, they will know how to treat a lady.

 

There are good women out there, but they won't come packaged as Adriana Lima or Angelina Jolie. Men who want the decent women need to find COMPATIBILITY, not the hottest thing they can show off.

 

Same goes for women.

 

Good way to bring it home at the end.

[KinAZ]

Physical beauty is a very powerful tool that some women use unethically. From a man's point of view, it's hard to trust or respect a woman that dose this, and it enforces an ugly generalization about ALL physically attractive women.

 

It's not always that the woman behaves unethically, but that some men expect that she will...

[vonerik012]

No, I love REAL women. Not following along with the currently popular feminist/ misandrist doctrine does not make me a misogynist. Sorry, I am not into "alpha" females, or ones so hurt that they view 99% of the opposite sex as not worthy of them or able to meet their "requirements". lol

 

Interesting how when presented with logic, you can only resort to calling names.

 

So tell us how you discovered 99% of men do not meet your requirements? Or does that hateful statement you made make me the misogynist for asking?

[Trialbyfire]

It's not always that the woman behaves unethically, but that some men expect that she will...

You'll find a percentage of people displaying unethical behaviour, whether physically attractive or otherwise. It would make for an interesting statistic.

[Virgo1982]

It's not always that the woman behaves unethically, but that some men expect that she will...

 

Maybe I'm overanalyzing here, but could it be that those men are like the "typical woman" themselves? Projecting their insecurities/baggage onto women because they're hot?

 

Or does experience shape perception?

[Jake Barnes]

No, I love REAL women. Not following along with the currently popular feminist/ misandrist doctrine does not make me a misogynist. Sorry, I am not into "alpha" females, or ones so hurt that they view 99% of the opposite sex as not worthy of them or able to meet their "requirements". lol

 

Interesting how when presented with logic, you can only resort to calling names.

 

So tell us how you discovered 99% of men do not meet your requirements? Or does that hateful statement you made make me the misogynist for asking?

I think youre taking that number too literally instead of figuratively

 

The truth is most people arent interested in most other people

[Trialbyfire]

I think youre taking that number too literally instead of figuratively

 

The truth is most people arent interested in most other people

Well said Jake.

 

No one owes each other mercy dates to make someone feel better about themselves.

[vonerik012]

Obviously we go out with people we are attracted to. The way I was raised, I would feel like an arrogant jerk proclaiming "99% of women do not meet my requirements", but i guess we were all raised differently.

 

Perhaps you do not meet the requirements(looks personality etc) of 99 out of 100 men yourself.

[D-Jam]

Well said Jake.

 

No one owes each other mercy dates to make someone feel better about themselves.

I agree.

 

However, when I see someone's selection standards ruling out 99% of the single population AND they moan and complain about being single, then I tell them it's time to rethink their selection standards.

 

I could want a girl as hot as Megan Fox. I could tell all other women if they don't look like her then they're out.

 

However, if I'm complaining that I can't meet a decent girl, then it's my own fault. PLUS if I happen to meet that Megan Fox clone, there's no guarantee I'll be what she wants in a man.

 

So I ruled out 99% of the populace AND got rejected by the other 1%...guess it's time to rethink things.

[Virgo1982]

Obviously we go out with people we are attracted to. The way I was raised, I would feel like an arrogant jerk proclaiming "99% of women do not meet my requirements", but i guess we were all raised differently.

 

Perhaps you do not meet the requirements(looks personality etc) of 99 out of 100 men yourself.

 

It does sound a bit conceited, but if we don't think we're special, who will?

 

I think confidence is an attractive trait whether someone is physically hot or not.

[Trialbyfire]

I agree.

 

However, when I see someone's selection standards ruling out 99% of the single population AND they moan and complain about being single, then I tell them it's time to rethink their selection standards.

 

I could want a girl as hot as Megan Fox. I could tell all other women if they don't look like her then they're out.

 

However, if I'm complaining that I can't meet a decent girl, then it's my own fault. PLUS if I happen to meet that Megan Fox clone, there's no guarantee I'll be what she wants in a man.

 

So I ruled out 99% of the populace AND got rejected by the other 1%...guess it's time to rethink things.

I don't moan and complain about being single. If you read what I wrote, people put themselves where they are. If they wanted to be in a relationship, it's not that difficult to find someone. Selection criteria can be increased and decreased, depending on what you're willing to put up with. Each person, attractive or unattractive, are where they put themselves.

[KinAZ]

Maybe I'm overanalyzing here, but could it be that those men are like the "typical woman" themselves? Projecting their insecurities/baggage onto women because they're hot?

 

Or does experience shape perception?

 

 

I think it could be a little of both... Often times, what I've noticed were guys who had bad experiences when they were YOUNGER (teenagers), and even as adults they expect that they'll run into the same level of maturity and same expectations all over again. That's not to imply that there aren't adults who behave selfishly, but rather that many of us learn better with time and experience.

[vonerik012]

Confidence is sexy, being conceited is ugly. Being conceited almost always stems from insecurity.

 

It is always easier to delude yourself by saying the problem lies within others, not yourself. "I am single because 99% of women do not meet my requirements" is far easier than to ponder "What do I do wrong in dating, and how can I better myself? What is wrong with me?"