sillychick82 Posted August 11, 2008 Posted August 11, 2008 I am 90% sure my girlfriend is cheating on me. I want to get ahold of the cell phone bill, and a copy of the printed text messages. But the bill is in her name so they won't release the info to me. We use ATT and I am hoping there is a way for me to email them the request, there has to be a loop hole. I just need it in black and white!
stampdaddy Posted August 11, 2008 Posted August 11, 2008 I am 90% sure my girlfriend is cheating on me. I want to get ahold of the cell phone bill, and a copy of the printed text messages. But the bill is in her name so they won't release the info to me. We use ATT and I am hoping there is a way for me to email them the request, there has to be a loop hole. I just need it in black and white! Court order my man... that is the only way
Author sillychick82 Posted August 11, 2008 Author Posted August 11, 2008 I was hoping they had en email customer service I could write to under a "fake" email address and get the info sent to the house that way. She never gets the mail so I would be able to get a hold of it easily.
Owl Posted August 11, 2008 Posted August 11, 2008 You're probably going to have to get a hold of her phone and look at it that way. Since its your GF, and not your spouse, the legal issues are even against you. Since this is your GF...if you suspect she's cheating, you're probably better off ending the relationship. Proving it by looking at her cell records/etc...way more difficult than if you were married. Just being blunt...not intending to be insulting.
whichwayisup Posted August 11, 2008 Posted August 11, 2008 If she is cheating on you, there's more than just cellphone records. Get a trusted friend to follow her. Put a keylogger on the computer. You can look for red flags in how she is with you on a daily basis, read up on signs of cheating. Or, you could just come right out and talk to her about this.
fubarred Posted August 11, 2008 Posted August 11, 2008 I couldn't get my hands on my wife's cell records either, but all they would really do at this point would show the number of times they contacted each other. You won't get the actual content of the message without going to court. I had people watching, a high-end GPS on her car, her cell phone... and she was still able to deny, deny, deny it away. The thing that finally got her was the digital voice recorder. The very first day that I drove to her work and hid it in her car, I found out more than I did in the whole previous month of exhausting detective work. I finally had concrete proof of her EA. I then used it to tap the home phone line so I could verify what she was telling me, through the conversations she was having with friends. They sell more expensive recorders that are already setup to attach to a phone line, but Radio Shack sells a little $30 box that will allow you to connect any voice recorder to an analog phone line through it's headset socket, and they also have a version for digital lines too I think. If you decide to get one, try and find one that can be plugged into a wall outlet. Mine uses a single AAA battery and it will only record about 3-4 hours of actual talk before it's dead. The recorder and the box from RS cost somewhere around $110. Pretty cheap price to pay for piece of mind.
porter218 Posted August 11, 2008 Posted August 11, 2008 I was hoping they had en email customer service I could write to under a "fake" email address and get the info sent to the house that way. She never gets the mail so I would be able to get a hold of it easily. Simple. Just have a female friend call up as her to get this done.
Touche Posted August 11, 2008 Posted August 11, 2008 Porter, that made me laugh because you don't even have to do that. When we first moved to our place I was having a problem because the idiots with the phone company wouldn't deal with me since the phones are in my H's name only. So I just started calling and saying I'm Mr. T. I didn't disguise my voice or anything. It was hysterical. Most CS people didn't say a word and helped me but one or two said "You're MR. T?" And I'd just say "Yes, I am." They couldn't prove I wasn't. The only problem is that they might ask you for a password to the account or SS#. If you have that, you can call and you'll have no problem. But I'm not sure about actual text messages. The only thing I'm able to see on our accounts are how many text messages (incoming/outgoing) but not the text messages themselves. I've checked because I like to monitor our son's text messages but I can't do it without just taking his phone and looking.
porter218 Posted August 11, 2008 Posted August 11, 2008 Porter, that made me laugh because you don't even have to do that. When we first moved to our place I was having a problem because the idiots with the phone company wouldn't deal with me since the phones are in my H's name only. So I just started calling and saying I'm Mr. T. I didn't disguise my voice or anything. It was hysterical. Most CS people didn't say a word and helped me but one or two said "You're MR. T?" And I'd just say "Yes, I am." They couldn't prove I wasn't. The only problem is that they might ask you for a password to the account or SS#. If you have that, you can call and you'll have no problem. . LOL. I have done that too:lmao:.
Touche Posted August 11, 2008 Posted August 11, 2008 LOL. I have done that too:lmao:. That's funny! It's pretty nervy, isn't it? It cracks me up because you can tell most of them don't believe you and will repeat back "So you're blankety blank?" (Saying my H's name) and I calmly answer "yes." It's hilarious. I mean I sound very much like a woman but again, they can't prove you're not. As long as you have all the passwords and private info they might ask you, they can't refuse to help you.
Arise_Serpentor Posted August 11, 2008 Posted August 11, 2008 you can also get a voice activated MP3 recorder for like $40. Leave it in strategic places!!!
fubarred Posted August 12, 2008 Posted August 12, 2008 Just in case you, or anyone else, decides to tap the phone line... get the box that connects to ANY phone jack in the house, and not the ones that connect between a phone base and it's handset. I set mine up in a spare bedroom behind a desk and kept the recorder and box in one of the drawers. It will record all activity on all of the phones in the house. The other style tap only records that one phone, and it's obviously easy to detect.
Art_Critic Posted August 12, 2008 Posted August 12, 2008 So I just started calling and saying I'm Mr. T. I didn't disguise my voice or anything. It was hysterical. Most CS people didn't say a word and helped me but one or two said "You're MR. T?" And I'd just say "Yes, I am." They couldn't prove I wasn't. Maybe you sound like a guy Touche .. hahaha I don't think you can get the data from what was sent.. the privacy laws don't allow them to store the actual data sent.. That is akin to recording a person's telephone conversation.. they don't do it.. They can only tell you who and when the text was sent or received..
Touche Posted August 12, 2008 Posted August 12, 2008 Maybe you sound like a guy Touche .. hahaha I don't think you can get the data from what was sent.. the privacy laws don't allow them to store the actual data sent.. That is akin to recording a person's telephone conversation.. they don't do it.. They can only tell you who and when the text was sent or received.. Haha, Art. No, I really don't sound like a guy. That's why some of them repeated "You're MR. blankety?" Anyway, as to the rest, yes that's what I thought too but wasn't sure. But I wanted to add that I can see what numbers the text messages are coming from and the time they came in. I stated earlier that I could just see the amount of text messages.
Art_Critic Posted August 12, 2008 Posted August 12, 2008 Haha, Art. No, I really don't sound like a guy. That's why some of them repeated "You're MR. blankety?" Anyway, as to the rest, yes that's what I thought too but wasn't sure. But I wanted to add that I can see what numbers the text messages are coming from and the time they came in. I stated earlier that I could just see the amount of text messages. Obviously there is some footprint that the data makes when it touches their hardware and that may be stored, most likely not by account though more a database stored for the hardware. I would also bet that it would take a court order to get that info.. and even then the court order would be very restrictive to a specific time, date and text that could be retrieved.. Even with a court order you would not get a blanket open retrieval of their data.. heck.. to even get the court order you would have to provide the need first and meet all the legal hurdles and then you would have to provide times and dates.. Court orders like that don't give the ability to make a fact finding mission out of it.. you have to know what you are already looking for first..
Jake Barnes Posted August 12, 2008 Posted August 12, 2008 You do sound like a guy, too many cigarettes
porter218 Posted August 12, 2008 Posted August 12, 2008 Obviously there is some footprint that the data makes when it touches their hardware and that may be stored, most likely not by account though more a database stored for the hardware. I would also bet that it would take a court order to get that info.. and even then the court order would be very restrictive to a specific time, date and text that could be retrieved.. Even with a court order you would not get a blanket open retrieval of their data.. heck.. to even get the court order you would have to provide the need first and meet all the legal hurdles and then you would have to provide times and dates.. Court orders like that don't give the ability to make a fact finding mission out of it.. you have to know what you are already looking for first.. I don't know Art, my friend caught her Hs A through text message. She would log onto his phone account and print the messages out. I am not sure what company they used.
Art_Critic Posted August 12, 2008 Posted August 12, 2008 I don't know Art, my friend caught her Hs A through text message. She would log onto his phone account and print the messages out. I am not sure what company they used. I do know that certain corporate cellular accounts allow texts to be saved.. but that is corporate and they have to pay to play... It is a feature set that they pay for to track employees.. and only those account managers in the corporation can see the text data.. That is a different animal though.. as far as transcribing.. that can be saved in your email.. that is voice to email.. There very well might be providers that can access your text data online.. I not sure.. if it originates online ( webpage texting ) then I know you can trace it but still cannot read it...
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